Newbie 1972 | Game Over

[LoserdudeOG]

ScumUncrowned beats TownZoomie in a 1v1 99% of the time.

I feel like scum!anyone 1v1 beats town!zoomie rn...

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.22

Zoomie8432 (2) ~

the worst, Uncrowned,

geraintm (2) ~

NaCl, Zoomie8432

Flavor Leaf (1) ~

LoserdudeOG,

Alexcellent (1) ~

geraintm

Uncrowned (1) ~

Flavor Leaf

Not voting (2) ~

Creature, Alexcellent

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-16 23:00:00)

Mod Notes

geraintm is V/LA on weekends

[LoserdudeOG]

Ack! Sorry for stealing it Karnage

[Flavor Leaf]

ScumUncrowned beats TownZoomie in a 1v1 99% of the time.

I feel like scum!anyone 1v1 beats town!zoomie rn...

Yeah, this is true, but the statement is still correct.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re definitely being taken for a ride by me, LDawg, but I promise it’s gonna be a fun one.

[LoserdudeOG]

You know, I have reason to doubt FL being scum atm, and if I’m being honest I’m not totally convinced Zoomie is scum either, so I’m going to put my vote where my gut is telling me.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Uncrowned

[Uncrowned]

The thing is, I'm not really concerned with whether or not you view me as town. The name of the game is finding scum, and that's what I'm trying to do.

FL, instead of just saying "this is scumcrowned / town zoomie" could you point out to me where you think I'm being unfair, or why you think zoomie is town at the least? Post 570 is a decent one imo and I feel like you've ignored something that's rather plausible. I'm not sure I'm buying any of zoomies "reads" atm

[LoserdudeOG]

You’re definitely being taken for a ride by me, LDawg, but I promise it’s gonna be a fun one.

So much tension, so little time......

[Flavor Leaf]

If I have to go Gera, I’ll do it, but I’d prefer Uncrowned today.

PEdit:

Oh, definitely can make Uncrowned happen.

[LoserdudeOG]

The thing is, I'm not really concerned with whether or not you view me as town. The name of the game is finding scum, and that's what I'm trying to do.

I mean... me too??????

[Flavor Leaf]

The thing is, I'm not really concerned with whether or not you view me as town. The name of the game is finding scum, and that's what I'm trying to do.

FL, instead of just saying "this is scumcrowned / town zoomie" could you point out to me where you think I'm being unfair, or why you think zoomie is town at the least? Post 570 is a decent one imo and I feel like you've ignored something that's rather plausible. I'm not sure I'm buying any of zoomies "reads" atm

I feel like scumZoomie’s reads would be better. I feel like you’re pushing incorrect town play to mislynch rather than a scum lynch. I mentioned this in the Spider-Man comic carnage post, because I literally just cased our mod, Karnage, for the same reason, and we got 2 back to back scum lynches there.

[Uncrowned]

What I'm more interested in is this:

Why would I be driving Scum!Zoomie so much if I "knew" he was town (assuming I'm scumcrowned here). If this is a mislynch, I put myself in a horrible position D2 and will likely be a major lynch candidate for D2 if I'm wrong on this, since I'm the only one really driving it.

Both of you feel like you're not really engaging with my points on the slot.

[LoserdudeOG]

The thing is, I'm not really concerned with whether or not you view me as town. The name of the game is finding scum, and that's what I'm trying to do.

I mean... me too??????

I’m so sorry am I crazy? Is this not a scum post? This seems like a scum post to me...

[Uncrowned]

Incorrect townplay? I'm pushing the fact that he's had no original reads, has sheeped the general gamestate, and that he called someone scum (LDog) who he had never brought up prior to that moment, and still now has not pushed that slot whatsoever and is now focusing on Gerain, for some reason?

None of it adds up. Now he's sheeping the claimed TPR and no one is batting an eye.

[Uncrowned]

There is so much conf!bias going on rn lmao

[Flavor Leaf]

What I'm more interested in is this:

Why would I be driving Scum!Zoomie so much if I "knew" he was town (assuming I'm scumcrowned here). If this is a mislynch, I put myself in a horrible position D2 and will likely be a major lynch candidate for D2 if I'm wrong on this, since I'm the only one really driving it.

Both of you feel like you're not really engaging with my points on the slot.

I actually hard disagree with this. You started pushing prior to me coming in. If you had mislynched Zoomie, you’d easily be able to brush it off after a kill to control gamestate, and could push the “town misplaying” card.

Also, I’m pretty sure this is a scum slip.

“If this is a mislynch, I put myself in a horrible position”

I might be grasping here, but if you were town, you wouldn’t be putting yourself in a horrible position, you’d just be in one. Scum is put in positions after pushing things. Town arent.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would scum not just make up a read rather than sheep? That’s actually one of the main reasons for me thinking he’s newTown over newScum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Now he's sheeping the claimed TPR and no one is batting an eye.

I mean...that’s not a bad call, especially if you aren’t creating your own reads.

[Uncrowned]

So you're saying a townie can't put themselves in the position of being lynched? Lol, what?

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s not even a matter of me thinking your posts are bad, I actually think they’re quite good, and I’m shocked at how strong players in the newbie queue can be. I just think it’s obv scum pushing an easy mislynch slot by simply outplaying them.

[Flavor Leaf]

So you're saying a townie can't put themselves in the position of being lynched? Lol, what?

I said I was probably grasping a bit with that, but I said a little more with it

[Uncrowned]

Why would scum not just make up a read rather than sheep? That’s actually one of the main reasons for me thinking he’s newTown over newScum.

Because a lot of scum are lazy and don't want to come up with a poor reason for calling someone scum? Because of their alignment they're naturally not going to be invested in scumhunting, so sheeping another person's reads is the easiest way to go.

I could see newb!scum thinking this would also be a way to get liked by the people making the original reads

[Uncrowned]

It’s not even a matter of me thinking your posts are bad, I actually think they’re quite good, and I’m shocked at how strong players in the newbie queue can be. I just think it’s obv scum pushing an easy mislynch slot by simply outplaying them.

Ok, fair. But I'm still not really getting much of an explanation of how Zoomie is clearly town besides that he seems like a newb town. I'm not really being convinced that I'm wrong here. I'm just seeing things from the slot that I don't like and you and LDog are just saying they're wrong with nothing else added to it besides "oh you're taking advantage of a newb"

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s kind of why. You’re pushing them as scum reasons, and I really don’t think they are. The same things you’re pushing as scum, I’m seeing as townie.

[Flavor Leaf]

But the type of townie that gets pushed for mislynch