Newbie 1972 | Game Over

[Creature]

Creature's being quiet and that's really worrying me.

I'm just being lazy

[Karnage]

Vote Count 2.2

Flavor Leaf (1) ~

LoserdudeOG,

Not voting (6) ~

Alexcellent, Uncrowned, Zoomie8432, Flavor Leaf, Creature, NaCl

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-12-24 09:58:14)

mod notes: none

[Creature]

I’m gonna make a questionable play here in twilight. I usually don’t do stuff like this in newbie games, but...

I claim Jailkeeper.

This is a statement, not a claim. We can discuss this tomorrow if I’m here, let’s not discuss it here in twilight.

@Uncrowned - I’m not actually JK. I was trying to bait a NK.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[Creature]

I’m gonna make a questionable play here in twilight. I usually don’t do stuff like this in newbie games, but...

I claim Jailkeeper.

This is a statement, not a claim. We can discuss this tomorrow if I’m here, let’s not discuss it here in twilight.

@Uncrowned - I’m not actually JK. I was trying to bait a NK.

This also seems like a very poor play to randomly make from town perspective

It's good play to make from a scum perspective

[Creature]

@flavor now that I know who you are I absolutely believe you’d manipulate a newb to gain towncred. I think ur scum 100%. Probably you and Zoomie team and you’re now bussing a partner that’s easily useable.
VOTE: Flavor

Still think this is town regardless if correct or wrong

[Alexcellent]

What do you think of Zoomie, Creature?

[Flavor Leaf]

Just like to point out the lack of Zoomie wagon commenting now.

One of Creature/Loser, exactly like I said. Alex has less now.

[Flavor Leaf]

@flavor now that I know who you are I absolutely believe you’d manipulate a newb to gain towncred. I think ur scum 100%. Probably you and Zoomie team and you’re now bussing a partner that’s easily useable.
VOTE: Flavor

Still think this is town regardless if correct or wrong

This sets up Creature for a sweep after I go down and helps keep Loser on their side if Creature’s the scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Still going with Nacl the FN, but did anyone receive the message?

This is likely a scum post.

It’s an un counterclaimed FN

[LoserdudeOG]

I have a bad tendency of over defending scum in that scenario. Gera flipping town, and then the Duck kill meant scum liked what I was doing, so I had to reevaluate.

At the same time, Zoomie voted Ark, more than once. Ark is now FL. Odds of Zoomie busing there?

What I still want to know about is Zoomie in general, he still hard TRs me even though I straight up think he's Scum, and he's said pretty much nothing about FL jumping in hard to defend him. I don't want to fall into the hole of judging him too much off of one or two things, but I feel like I'm not really being given a choice here.

Yeah, I don't think that FL and Zoomie are both scum. At most one is, and I suspect that exactly one is.

Creature's being quiet and that's really worrying me.

I don't know why TW died, but I don't think he would have if Uncrowned was scum. Unless Uncrowned was thinking TW was actually the JK.

829 doesn't sit right with me. FL being scum isn't something I've ruled out, but I don't see why that means he's bussing.

FL, why did you feel confident in hammering without a claim?

I've been sick again, my head's a mess. I'll get back into my rhythm soon, hopefully.

829 is based on my real life knowledge of FL. This is absolutely something that he’d do in real life. Granted it’s been a while since I’ve played with him, and forum mafia is way different of a game, so maybe I’m off on the bussing thing, but FL is scum here 100%, and I don’t think it’s impossible for him to bus his very non vocal newb scumbuddy to make him self more town looking.

[Karnage]

Mode Note

Zoomie8432¹ has been prodded and has (expired on 2019-12-19 22:05:45) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

[Zoomie8432]

Sorry about the afk length. Just had some things going on at school. And

@Karnage. I am going to V/LA starting from Saturday this week, until the start of Tuesday next week. Working on something special for my dad in that time.

~12/21 through 12/24 or 12/31?

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a completely different person than the one you met 6 years ago.

It’s been like 4 years since I’ve seen you.

[Zoomie8432]

12/21 they 12/24

[Zoomie8432]

Through*

[Zoomie8432]

It's important for me to prepare this, as I have never surprised my dad before.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Zoomie

[Flavor Leaf]

That fact that I’m the leading wagon right now proves I’m town

[Zoomie8432]

Btw, why bait a Nk, if you didn't even get killed, Flavor Leaf? Some SE may be calling bluffs if so.

[Zoomie8432]

Or at least some non newbscum

[Flavor Leaf]

That was part of it. Experienced players would have seen through it. Newbies wouldn’t have.

I don’t think you would have.

And I think Alex/Loser would have discussed what they thought.

The Duck could have possibly thought I was faking role claim, even if I actually was it.

I’m not. And as scum, I would never leave that off the table to try and out the actual PR. I literally threw that out the window if I was scum

Creature knows I’m not like that as scum, and he’s probably TMI’ing with Loser.

[Flavor Leaf]

The only people who likely would have saw through it instantly based on familiarity with me is Creature and The Worst.

Creature didn’t come back into this game until after he saw an opening to push this

[Zoomie8432]

Great point. Newer ones wouldn't have seen through. I actually got confused on it too. Now let's see if others got confused too.

[Zoomie8432]

I gotta sleep now. See ya tomorrow.

[Alexcellent]

That fact that I’m the leading wagon right now proves I’m town