Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm irked by everything to do with this individual game and team mafia as a whole and i wish i didn't sign up for it tbh.

[MathBlade]

i'm irked by everything to do with this individual game and team mafia as a whole and i wish i didn't sign up for it tbh.

That didn’t answer the question?

Are you concerned your push on a nonscumread is working and your push on your scumread isn’t?

This doesn’t seem typical for you as any alignment.

Maybe try again on a scumread?

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, Aristophanes isn't here so there's no point wagoning him.

[MathBlade]

I mean, Aristophanes isn't here so there's no point wagoning him.

I didn’t say specifically Ari. A scumread. You scumread Plum and Tris.

Why not wagon them and see who sheeps to help figure out which? I disagree with the Plum read but that’s me.

You seem content to vote someone you don’t scumread.

You aren’t seeming to try to get data off of voting me, so why do it?

I don’t follow what you’re doing.

If wagoning me is useless and wagoning Ari is useless why not have your vote sit on a scumread while you figure out what is useful? This is horribly antitown.

So much so I need to chat with my teammates.

[RadiantCowbells]

No one is actually here to wagon anyone.

[MathBlade]

No one is actually here to wagon anyone.

That’s just not accurate. Only a few people are VLA.

You could also unvote so you’re not voting a not scumread.

Like RC if you’re town this is like definitional town

Town doesn’t let votes linger on townreads/not scumreads.

[RadiantCowbells]

Town isn't a set of behaviours it's an alignment. I don't townread you as I've pointed out and I don't have anything meaningful to do with my vote right now.

[MathBlade]

So then are you thinking I am 3P?

You realize I have an alignment right?

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't at this time seek your lynch today so I guess you're correct that I shouldn't be voting you, I just have a tendency not to unvote until I know where else I'm going.

UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to be wagoning Aristophanes but I can't and I don't really see what value I'm going to get out of wagoning anyone else.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Ari

Then let’s vote Ari until they show up or a better scumread comes along.

Leaving a vote on a scumread is okay.

Bella, Xtom, or Flopz are all good wagons too imho.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm aware there's little justification for it and her associations with a scumread of mien aren't great but I think that Bella is town anyway for whatever reason.

[MathBlade]

I'm aware there's little justification for it and her associations with a scumread of mien aren't great but I think that Bella is town anyway for whatever reason.

Okay so then don’t vote Bella. We disagree there but I am waiting for people to give reasons that she is town if they townread her.

Vote Ari with me or a scumread of your own. Surely with as many posts as you have you have one?

You wanted an Ari wagon. Come back to it until you find a better spot. It’s where we agree.

[skitter30]

vla for like a day

i've been having a ~not great~ weekend and i don't think i'm up to this rn
i've been kinda reading a long but i haven't taken super much in

[the worst]

VOTE: Ari I'm down to spook ari when he comes back

[skitter30]

this is an utterly pointless wagon if he isn't even around

[skitter30]

eh maybe i am up to it.
let's see how far i get

[MathBlade]

this is an utterly pointless wagon if he isn't even around

The wagon isn’t about him. I scumread him but it’s something else.

Wagoning people in absentia can help with reads.

[skitter30]

I’ll circle back with you. I feel like I’m being freer here (yea, as plum(?) notes one liners and jokes) than I am when I’m scum, where even if I’m forcing content I’m forcing it to be contentful. Like the last time we talked I think I was a pure sortable by post count player. I don’t think that’s true any more, since I became aware of it, but after my last roll and reread, I still think the weight is different. It’s something I had made a note of, and so figured it would be something your meta mind might note as well. (Of course, bow that I’ve indicated awareness, and yoda yada).

Bottom line, I think we’re just still stuck at you not really reading me. Independent of our interactions, I still don’t “like” you that much this game, but I need to reread the RC 1v1 again to check myself. One of my teammates feels you for town in a way I don’t yet.

this is still the single-most important factor in my mind that i associate with reading you, and i don't think i've ever actually read that newbie scumgame of yours.
and by that metric, i don't think you'd obvtowned, and i don't think that it was reasonable of you to have expected me to think that you'd obvtowned at that point

and given how we've talked about 8 bajillion times about how i get ~wary~ when it sounds like you're pocketing me, and given that you're aware of that, your vote kinda made me wonder if scum!you would be trying the opposite tack here given that the scumread didn't make super much sense to me

who on your team thinks i'm town?

i'm p sure it was a serious vote but it doesn't really make sense with his teacher read, i think

I thought it was serious too, but what does his read of me play into it. Like ya I was voting you, but I think his read of me was -?null- so why/how should the fact that someone who is rand! affect his scumread at all?

was trying to parse where his read on me was coming from, thought it was a little funny that we were meshing on at least some reads (i.e. you) but that he thought i was scum

even saying that he feels more like ~washed-out~ than the last few times i've played with town!him

The snip above is about tw. He actually feels quite similar to me from the normal I played with you back in oct/nov, right before I took my break. What’s different for you?

feels ~less energy~ than there

=

I am having trouble figuring out if they are numbers or not. The only time I played iirc with Skitter we were scum so I don’t have a good basis.

@ math ? when did we play together ?

i actually kinda like math's readslist

[MathBlade]

Extra Communication. We were scum without a dedicated way to talk.

[skitter30]

bella how are you reading me rn?

[skitter30]

oh ~that~ game
it was a fun one

i wasn't scum tho, you were with chip (? i think ?)
you n1'd me for nailing you iirc

[MathBlade]

@Skitter Tell me what you make of me + RC and RC not voting Ari when you get caught up and not before please.

[skitter30]

ok give me a bit, i'm a few pages behind

i'm also kinda planning on avoiding rc a bit if i can

[MathBlade]

oh ~that~ game
it was a fun one

i wasn't scum tho, you were with chip (? i think ?)
you n1'd me for nailing you iirc

Right lol I am old as fuck XD wow.

My brain is crit failing :crylaugh: