Newbie 1976 Mason PT

[Kanna]

Also yes I will also be worried if Phoenix isn’t killed

[Datisi]

If nobody ccs me, I'm conf Town since Cop is never a safe claim so shrug

And scum sometimes does that if they believe they can both win a 1v1 and if their partner can win 3p

Yes do push that

[Datisi]

If neither Phoenix nor Norway die i think that might mean one scum in those two? Since Phoenix was hard TRing Norway so maybe scum!Nor wouldn't kill him

[Kanna]

I probs need a reality check though cause all I see is Norway Naerys.

Give me any other ideas/pairings please please

[Datisi]

gah, this is generally why i dislike thinking about games *too* much during night phase as Town
because scum NK gives a lot of information as well

gimmie a sec

[Kanna]

Actually now that I think about it, Map might die cause he was against GBJ > townpoints?

[Datisi]

Perhaps. I'm thinking about it, and in 9p games *in theory* if Town is lynched Day 1 scum is 1 on 1 off wagon - obviously this isn't a hard rule, I've sometimes as scum voted with my partner just to screw with this, and i've seen Town lynches with no scum on them

however considering how SRed GBJ was (everyone except Map and Non, right?) I could maybe see 1 scum being in Map/Non who decided to defend GBJ for Town points later

though I'm very not good at dissecting wagons

[Datisi]

I dunno. All of {Salad/Non/Naerys} are in my "they seem kinda agendaless and weird so they're Town} group, which again maybe isn't the best reason to TR someone

[Datisi]

If I was a VT in this game right now I'd be working under the assumption that Norway and Naerys are a Mason pair. Like that strong of a defence is kinda odd?

:thonk:

maybe it just is Norway/Naerys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

obv the question is "would scum be defending each other in the thread as hard"
Norway strikes me like a player who would do something like that tho

bruh mafia is difficult

[Kanna]

Omg

And I think *if it is them* then yea could be because they’re a SE/newbie team so maybe the SE wants to protect the newbie? Skitter was protecting GBJ too and I think they’ll avoid bus if they can avoid - it’s natural

[Kanna]

Plus D1 went extraordinarily well for them so why would they bus

[Kanna]

Actually YEA...thinking about it, D1 was too peaceful; feels like mafia we’re comfortable

[Kanna]

If not, back to square 1 but I want to give this a shot

[Kanna]

Well I’m going to sleep now gn! And I think we’ve mostly done all we can for this night so let’s just take it easy now

[Datisi]

Omg

And I think *if it is them* then yea could be because they’re a SE/newbie team so maybe the SE wants to protect the newbie? Skitter was protecting GBJ too and I think they’ll avoid bus if they can avoid - it’s natural

agh, guess it depends on the gamestate and how the partners interact with eachother, i haven't exactly checked what skitter was doing that game

I'm thinking if it's worth going over the absolute dumpster fire of the headache-inducing so-called game that was Nomination Mafia just to get a meta read on Nor that might or might not be correct or confbiased to hell

let's just open the day with you pushing Naerys and see how he reacts?

pedit: in my experence, a "peaceful" day means at least 1 scum in the more active posters, maybe 2
which would then strengthen my Phoenix townread since he got in pretty late

ppedit: sleep well!! Hope neither of us dies lol

[Datisi]

...

[Datisi]

...It was supposed to be me. I was supposed to be the first one to die. EXCUSE ME????

[Datisi]

Who THE FUCK would kill Kanna? Unless my crumb was found? Lmao if my crumb was found I'm done.

[Datisi]

uwu

oh no i infected the moderator

anyway time to use this as a notes PT i guess
so
i'm not outright ccing Non because of the way they presented their claim i think they can easily back off
so either they soak a bullet for me which is good, we're both alive at LyLo when i can press that, or i die at night which is probably gonna set people off

Norway still annoys me to no end
okay
we'll see

[Datisi]

oh yeah this was supposed to be a note PT oopsie

uh
listen i have a plan
the fuck i mean no i don't lmao
tbh the plan is "don't fucking eat a bullet"
tho knowing how well my OTHER GAME JUST WENT (no i'm not salty what do you mean)
i'm prob joinig you in the dead thread soon

[Datisi]

that's a fast lock indeed

let's see

[Datisi]

Map Wolf -

Mafia Goon

- Lynched Day 2

[Xtoxm]

heh :p

[Datisi]

Hmmmm... Early gut townpings on Map Wolf and scumpings on Norway, but knowing my usual read accuracy they're most likely the other way around.

:thonk:

[Datisi]

Okay, real talk for a second.

As the day was going on, i was getting stronger and stronger feelings that (1) Norway was scum and (2) Norway was pocketing Naeyrs instead of being their partner. And by some PoE (that I cbf to redo right now) I though Norway's most likely partner was Map Wolf. My original vote on Map Wolf was supposed to be a reaction test. When Norway went with it, I decided to let him sit at those two votes for a bit and see if Norway finds any opportunity to jump the ship.

But then time passed and we actually lynched Map and he flipped scum? So, uh... nice?