Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Bellaphant]

@math It's kinda sad that's all your taking from that but fine.

I should be more suspicious that RC is giving some of the lower content slots (me, ico) a hard town pass but I town read me and ico too.

@duck, I could prolly dig out the game?

[MathBlade]

If both of you all don’t quit spamming I will end up picking one of you and you two will be the only wagons because I can literally not hunt with how much spam you have.

For fucks sake I wanted to sort Bella while she is here and I can’t do jack nor shit with how fast you’re posting.

Go get a drink both of you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't know exactly what you're looking for me to say. I townread them.
You should be more concerned that TW started townreading them out of the fucking blue when he needed slots to start siding with him than that I came to those positions over time.
Like I did pretty insta-townread you, but I was scumreading Ico originally until he started not backing down on things that felt more likely to be stubborn town than scum

Ico hasn't done anything recently to be townread besides the stuff he did earlier, so where's that coming from on Duck?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, the #1 thing that town me gets called out for is having TMI townreads. I know how to find town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I fakeclaimed masons with Lovebird in DND upick when she had 9 posts and none of them was more than a 1 liner, I was that sure she was town. Both of you have many times more content than I require to locktown someone.

[RadiantCowbells]

This just *me*.

shrug

if I were scum I'd feel a lot more obligated to like say a bunch of stuff about how the read progressed rather than be like nah that's town.

[MathBlade]

@math It's kinda sad that's all your taking from that but fine.

I should be more suspicious that RC is giving some of the lower content slots (me, ico) a hard town pass but I town read me and ico too.

@duck, I could prolly dig out the game?

Please do

What are your scum theories atm?
Townreads?

[the worst]

Like Ico literally tried to argue that I wasn't a likely scum nightkill relative to some others. That's exactly the kind of thing that you see and go hmm this is a SvS motivated thing to push

i don't think that's really ico's style as scum and i don't feel like he's having his strings pulled :s

[the worst]

@duck, I could prolly dig out the game?

which game? i'll do some hunting if you'd like

[the worst]

You should be more concerned that TW started townreading them out of the fucking blue when he needed slots to start siding with him than that I came to those positions over time.

i didn't feel the need to fabricate a legible trajectory for the thread
i reread them spoke with the team and reached a different conclusion
there ya go

[RadiantCowbells]

See like you can say that, and that's somewhat believable, but I don't think that it's the first direction your read goes.
At this point I have most of the posts in the game memorized and I can say relatively confidently that there's more reasons to see us as buddies than to clear us.
I also called Ico scum and then randomly decided he was town that would have looked rather out of the blue and I've done that with a lot of scumbuddies recently, so I also don't buy that progression from you.

And that's ignoring the entire question of... you randomly deciding that I'm half policy half scum and then townreading people because of their associatives with me all of a sudden, what?

[RadiantCowbells]

i didn't feel the need to fabricate a legible trajectory for the thread
i reread them spoke with the team and reached a different conclusion
there ya go

All at the point where suddenly earning towncred was more important than having mislynches to push, yes.

[the worst]

i didn't feel the need to fabricate a legible trajectory for the thread
i reread them spoke with the team and reached a different conclusion
there ya go

All at the point where suddenly earning towncred was more important than having mislynches to push, yes.

so i didn't go for towncred
ok rc

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, you did go for towncred. You started clearing slots so that they would take your side instead of mine.
You came back, immediately instigated a 1v1 with me b/c I was voting ari, you really wouldn't have had time to suddenly come up with reasons that they were town and they would be subject to scrutiny.
Like even if you lynch me you know that if you're still sitting around with most of the game in your scumpool that's not going to fly.
So you're in super townspew mode, having eddie cane force interactions with all these random buddies, etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like it's really typical for scum to start suddenly having more townreads under pressure btw: track it across games. They want to make as few enemies as possible.
Duck was trying to at least somewhat close the door to those people voting him and make as many friends as possible to go after me. Despite the fact that I am STILL a claimed investigative.

You think Duck is so anti-town he goes after that D1? C'mon.

[RadiantCowbells]

On the other hand, his associatives with Ari are objectively shit. That much is obvious even to him. So yes, he absolutely goes after me because when I'm gone Bella and Ico are mislynchable again.

[RadiantCowbells]

On the other hand, his associatives with Ari are objectively shit. That much is obvious even to him. So yes, he absolutely goes after me because when I'm gone Bella and Ico are mislynchable again.

[RadiantCowbells]

And frankly, he has much higher odds of lynching me pushing it as policy than a scumread.

[MathBlade]

Raybells assume TW+Ari are scum who are viable thirds

[the worst]

i reevaluated my reads because my reads changed
i didn't frame them in a way that was townreadable; you yourself have acknowledged that

i'm pushing you as a scumread. which i've stated on several occasions. you're now both spamming and blatantly misrepresenting me lol. like you're desperately trying to make yourself more policy lynchable.

[Bellaphant]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=200. Tldr Titus used 'slayers gambit' got annoyed when I votes it for being shit and then stayed on me for like...3 days for 'reasons'. Oh,jeanne11 was under an alt.

@math, talk in the am..

[the worst]

ouch
that's not a great exchange

[RadiantCowbells]

Raybells assume TW+Ari are scum who are viable thirds

I already answered this question: {Plum/Tris} > {Xtoxm}

I think that everyone else is town at this point.

[RadiantCowbells]

And I'm not misrepresenting you at all.

Like, every statement I'm making is accurate and, like, blatantly accurate.

Is your claimed belief that I'm scum bussing Ari? Then vote him. You'll die D2. You flip town. I die D3. 2 scum in 3 days.
Otherwise? The lion's share of my case doesn't even apply to you because it's based on the assumption that you are required to vote me to forestall the Aristophanes wagon.

There's really no reason to simultaneously refuse to vote Aristophanes, to argue against the associatives presented with him, and to take a really loose scumread that leaves you mileage to vote if needed but not otherwise if you're not his buddy.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, the two things that most set you off weren't me preventing you from giving reads, because that never really happened.
The two times you got set off and said regrettable things were when NSG called you scum, and when I called you scum.
So you claim this narrative that you're going after me because I'm "refusing to let you play the game" when really you just are just set off by the scumread + the vote on Ari.
I think you were perfectly fine to bus Ari if it came to it until I connected the two of you. Now you gotta play hardball.