Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Eddie Cane]

Setup Information

Doctor Lonely (as designed by BBmolla):

Doctor Lonely

1 Mafia Rolecop Neighbor
2 Mafia Neighbors

1 Town Indecisive Doctor
1 Town Phone Operator Neighbor
10 Town Neighbors

• Mafia and neighborhoods have daytalk.
  
• Every neighborhood has two neighbors.
  
• Phone Operator checks a player each night. If the player had a neighbor at the beginning of that night phase, the Phone Operator learns the name of that neighbor. Otherwise they receive NO RESULT.
  
• Every neighborhood with a Mafia neighbor has a Town neighbor.
  
• Phone Operator could be paired with a Mafia Neighbor.

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's

Town Neighbor

Welcome to Team Mafia 2020!

The game thread can be found here.

You are a

Town Neighbor

.

You share a neighborhood with

PLAYER NAME

where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Town Indecisive Doctor

Welcome to Team Mafia 2020!

The game thread can be found here.

You are a

Town Indecisive Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. That player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself or the player you targeted during the previous night phase.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Town Phone Operator Neighbor

Welcome to Team Mafia 2020!

The game thread can be found here.

You are a

Town Phone Operator Neighbor

.

You share a neighborhood with

PLAYER NAME

where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You may target one player per night phase. If that player had a neighbor at the beginning of the current Night Phase, you will told the name of that player's neighbor. If that player did not have a neighbor at the beginning of the current Night Phase, your investigation will fail and you will receive

NO RESULT

.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

Mafia Neighbor

Welcome to Team Mafia 2020!

The game thread can be found here.

You are a

Mafia Neighbor

.

Your partners are

PLAYER NAME

, a

Mafia Rolecop Neighbor

and

PLAYER NAME

, a

Mafia Neighbor

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You also share a private thread where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You share a neighborhood with

PLAYER NAME

where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

Mafia Rolecop Neighbor

Welcome to Team Mafia 2020!

The game thread can be found here.

You are a

Mafia Rolecop Neighbor

.

Your partners are

PLAYER NAME

and

PLAYER NAME

, who are both a

Mafia Neighbor

. Together you share a factional kill each night. You also share a private thread where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of that player's role but not their alignment. If your investigation fails you will receive

NO RESULT

.

You share a neighborhood with

PLAYER NAME

where you may communicate as long as you are alive, located here.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

[Micc]

Votecount 1.26

popsofctown (5) -

Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, Nancy Drew 39

Eddie Cane (3) -

popsofctown, Krazy, pisskop

DrDolittle (2) -

Titus, OkaPoka

Pine (1) -

Hectic

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Titus (1) -

bob3141

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

[Amrun]

@pops: DDL is higher than rand town for his re-entrance to the game. His reads, while opposite of mine, are not political at all and that’s not how DDL plays as scum in my experience.

The time people were complaining about him lurking, he was busy IRL, and a lot of that is play style too. I have seen a reason anyone thinks he is scum that is AI in any capacity, just playstyle.

I have more to say about it but he and I are both waiting on something to complete. So give us awhile.

[Amrun]

Skitter thinks he’s scummy FWIW.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I forget the phone operator can be a neighbor, because the assymetry of the setup is awkward. I don't really see how that's scum indicative, my PM doesn't say "non-phone operator neighbor".

I don't know why you think the post is awkward Nancy.

A lot of your posting here reads as really self-conscious and you usually aren’t. You’re generally much more natural and not terribly concerned with how you’re coming across.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Skitter thinks he’s scummy FWIW.

The problem for me, is DDL often looks scummy, so you need to look at if he’s actually doing anything particularly scummy, which is without more info, still at a null/slight townlean for me.

[Titus]

Just why are pops and Eddie voted?

[bob3141]

It bothers me that 1966 has this teabagging assumption of reading everything I do as scum but doesn't actually canvas for votes, that might be what Ali means by saying it's a post like he's ahead.

It has been really interesting to see how Ali's approach to town (oh wait I don't have to backspace VT thanks Ed) VT is different and makes me wish maybe I hydra'ed more, though I'm pretty firmly against the unfair advantage element and want pure-hydra-games to come up

I think you got the post number wrong again. 1966 was a post asking you who your statement was directed at.


And all these posts any you have no yet answered one of my questions.

[bob3141]

So what does you bases does your read on me have. As all of a sudden i make it quite clear im scum reading and behold you claim to have started scum reading. Yet you cant come up with any baises for teh read. In fact all you can come up with is tht bob must be deep wolfing but even then you cant come up with any substance.

Yet again you just dodged the questions i put to you.


VOTE: pops

[DrDolittle]

amrun is the thing you were waiting on completed?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Just why are pops and Eddie voted?

Eddie definitely shouldn’t be. Are you tr Pops now?

[Nancy Drew 39]

So what does you bases does your read on me have. As all of a sudden i make it quite clear im scum reading and behold you claim to have started scum reading. Yet you cant come up with any baises for teh read. In fact all you can come up with is tht bob must be deep wolfing but even then you cant come up with any substance.

Yet again you just dodged the questions i put to you.


VOTE: pops

Pops is at L-2 now, I think.

[popsofctown]

That post number is correct. 19

9

6 asked who a statement was directed at (and it was kind of you kind of no one in particular).

1966 has a singular question mark in it, for "why do you think Amrun didn't rejoin the Hectic wagon when it regrew?" which looks like a rhetorical question, and on the offchance it wasn't I wasn't aware of Hectic's wagon having more than one phase so I don't have anything for you. Posting a long shade post characterizing everything I do in the worst light, inserting a single rhetorical question into it, and then responding to getting ignored with "all these posts any you have no yet answered one of my questions" is a disingenuous way to act like you're sorting me when you're not.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 1.26

popsofctown (5) -

Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, Nancy Drew 39

Eddie Cane (3) -

popsofctown, Krazy, pisskop

DrDolittle (2) -

Titus, OkaPoka

Pine (1) -

Hectic

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Titus (1) -

bob3141

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

No sorry, that would be L-1.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 1.26

popsofctown (5) -

Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, Nancy Drew 39

Eddie Cane (3) -

popsofctown, Krazy, pisskop

DrDolittle (2) -

Titus, OkaPoka

Pine (1) -

Hectic

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Titus (1) -

bob3141

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

No sorry, that would be L-1.

No L-2, I forgot my vote was counted.

[popsofctown]

{pops, Oka}
{pissk, ND}
other people
{Amrun}
{bob}
{Eddie}

I think that is where I am at now

[Hectic]

Pops keeps attacking/shading people who have potential to defend her, and aren't on her wagon. She did it earlier with me when talking about how my wagon could be a town-driven scumwagon, right after I'd made some posts defending her. And now she's attacking Bob when she's probably aware that Bob has a tendency to OMGUS, and scum!her really can't afford to do that right now. I think this flips town.

[bob3141]

That post number is correct. 19

9

6 asked who a statement was directed at (and it was kind of you kind of no one in particular).

1966 has a singular question mark in it, for "why do you think Amrun didn't rejoin the Hectic wagon when it regrew?" which looks like a rhetorical question, and on the offchance it wasn't I wasn't aware of Hectic's wagon having more than one phase so I don't have anything for you. Posting a long shade post characterizing everything I do in the worst light, inserting a single rhetorical question into it, and then responding to getting ignored with "all these posts any you have no yet answered one of my questions" is a disingenuous way to act like you're sorting me when you're not.

There was more than just the question with the actual question mark. In fact there quite a few implied questions. Just because they're not directly written does not mean that there there. There was quite a few points i wanted you to respond too in it.


The fact you didnt come up with anything makes me think you just want to dismiss the post.

[Krazy]

I am scum for being too sure if Amrun's alignment but also I am scum for not knowing Titus's alignment?

Who was this @

I'm sorry what are the implied questions here?

[Krazy]

Or you mean 1966 had more?

Maybe you guys should just be quoting the posts you're talking about

[popsofctown]

I pointed out that it didn't make sense for you to criticize me both for a high confidence level on Amrun and a low confidence level on Titus. You asked who I was talking to when it was rather obvious it was you, which is a blunt way of dismissing someone as "you're so wrong you must be talking to a different audience", so no, I didn't come back to get repeatedly dismissed, I spent more time with people who were going to talk to me like a person.

[Titus]

Just why are pops and Eddie voted?

Eddie definitely shouldn’t be. Are you tr Pops now?

No. I am just accepting I am unable to catch up and I would like to know the reasons or "reasons" behind each wagon atm.

[Amrun]

amrun is the thing you were waiting on completed?

The comment I wanted to say from guns and roses was simply this:

The way you came into that game makes me think you’d be at least a little worried about me solving you and aggressively taking you down.

Since you don’t give me that vibe at all, and since you in fact espoused unpopular reads that are opposite of mine, I think you’re more likely town than not. But I let you down in that game so maybe you just don’t feel that way anymore.


However, I’m also really curious to see how the end of that game and my final flip informs your read here.

[Krazy]

Vote me or stop talking this is a waste of thread space

VOTE: Eddie Cane

Okay what the fuck is going on in 1538?

[...]Seems like unnatural progression, especially without a qualifier voting that it is out of frustration or policy rather than scumminess.

Titus, if you want a tl;dr, then simply put I don't think the person who writes 1952 looks at 1955 and then interprets it in the way they do in 2035 while still flipping town

2035 does not come from town

[Krazy]

@Krazy, I think assuming Eddie was avoiding your question is kind of a reach. The thing is Eddie, I’ve seen Krazy make these kind of illogical leaps as town too, so I don’t agree it’s scum indicative just that your wagon is obviously bad, based on this.

However, I do have to wonder why Krazy didn’t consider he was possibly misunderstanding you.

I don't think the questioning itself has to be scummy. Though Ank and Tom have read all this and have him as their top scum now. The 1 hour thing, the posturing, etc is all bad to me though. Especially since Pops is calling him scummy, naked voted him, yet he votes with pops on me with no questions, after his last post about me has me leaning town. Seems like unnatural progression, especially without a qualifier voting that it is out of frustration or policy rather than scumminess.

Actually looking at it again, the rest of this post doesn't make any sense either, since if Eddie is scum then pops is town unless they lied about the hood