george is likely to be town via POE. I don't see scum Ico lying about not following the plan. GL is a gut read which I'd rather not get into atm.In post 594, ObviousScum wrote:Can you expand on where you see town in george, ico, and GL?
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some games are better than othersIn post 599, ObviousScum wrote:
do you usually have good reads?In post 597, Karnage wrote:what does this even mean?GTKAS - Karnage
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I'm not a fan of George's absence but I kinda liked his last post. Coming into today he kinda skips karnage who was being pushed and goes for ico instead who he'd positioned before as a mid-tier read. Now it's possible he'd go for ico for not 'following the plan' as scum but I feel like it makes sense to push players who are playing kinda overtly anti-town?- Karnage
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@obvscumCan you expand on where you see scum in george, ico, and karnage?GTKAS - Karnage
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Why are you so sure george is scum?In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote: 1) I still generally think George is scum and I'm not sure why we're looking at Obv/Icon first over GeorgeGTKAS - Karnage
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I don't really see scum anywhere, I just see more townie and less townie
That's why I've been trying to find town
Icon's response to me felt ok although risk of defensive pocket
your wim seems ok but your reads look gross
george has a few posts I like, one post I don't like, and an absence I dislike
emps has seemed to have good presence throughout the game and a good tone
GL looks like the best read for vig and a pretty clear read of the game but I guess I'd feel better about him if I saw one or two things I wan't go into
there's not really anyone I'd say "oh no, never ever flips scum here" but no one I'm like "oh yeah 1000% scum" either, just a messy murk of a game frankly- ObviousScum
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also feel like you really haven't done much solving up until now tbh, more one push on me and then called it a day until I directly asked you for readsIn post 608, ObviousScum wrote:your wim seems ok but your reads look gross
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okay so actually as I'm sitting down and thinking about this more my reads are kinda all in flux
questions I'm thinking about - if George isn't scum, then scum might be just waiting for me to force the issue and then they can tag along later when it's deadline and they won't fall under scrutiny. I've tossed out George's name as a suspect several times now and nobody is biting at that, which makes me think George might be town and designated lynchbait
I'm also not sure I buy that emps townreads me to this degree? like I don't think I've been super especially over the top townie so far this game
I definitely don't think Obv/Karnage are a team. and I don't really think Ico is scum.
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emps/Obv could be a team
George/Obv or George/Karnage could be teams I guess"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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what makes you say I'm "sure"? I said "generally" in that post you quotedIn post 607, Karnage wrote:
Why are you so sure george is scum?In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote: 1) I still generally think George is scum and I'm not sure why we're looking at Obv/Icon first over George"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Karnage
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wim?
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I guess it depends on how you define "solving"
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ok. why do you generally think george is scum?GTKAS - Karnage
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the thing is George hasn't town told at all and I've seen him towntell in the last game we played together. I also really disliked the way he justified his vote onto Jake. however more and more he's kinda feeling like lynchbait in terms of how this game state is behaving, it's weird to me that nobody else is really vibing with my scumread there"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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what about a Karnage/emps team, could that fit"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Karnage
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Whats the scum case against me?In post 614, GuiltyLion wrote:what about a Karnage/emps team, could that fitGTKAS - Karnage
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I'm not making a case yet chill
I'm trying to figure out who's working together and what scum agenda every player's votes and pushes could be serving right now
you're kinda my guess at Nurse so I didn't think you were scum but associatives between Obv don't really make him scum with a lot of people I think. I'm starting to think emps is a decent bet for a deep wolf"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Karnage
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just a scum getting mostly townread by most players, someone not really in the thread consensus lynchpool
that's how I use it at least"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- ObviousScum
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I mean a lot of your scumread is off metaIn post 613, GuiltyLion wrote:it's weird to me that nobody else is really vibing with my scumread there- ObviousScum
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like you've said it but I don't really feel like you've sold it that hard? idkIn post 610, GuiltyLion wrote:I've tossed out George's name as a suspect several times now and nobody is biting at that, which makes me think George might be town and designated lynchbait- ObviousScum
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j/w but why did you think to ask this?In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote:2) I messaged Datisi a few days ago asking whether the Nurse would flip as Doc if they died N1 and their answer was Nurse always flips as Nurse. so somebody is 100% lying about being a doctor and I'd really like them to claim explicitly in case that gives us useful night action info or in case we're barking up the wrong tree- ObviousScum
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'wanting it more'In post 612, Karnage wrote:wim?
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