Newbie 1984 - Game Over

[Luca Blight]

Mmmm mmmm it can be

I think scum are more likely to pick pointless fights thinking it will make them seem townie

So you’re saying I’m picking a fight by not answering RQS?

Not really but idk you're not trying to socialize either and town early can sometimes be more laid back and you don't feel laid back to me rn

Define ‘socialize’ in this context?

I’m not usually laid back when I’m called scum based on nothing, that’s true.

[Detective Pikachu]

It's hard to articulate

Hit me with a reads list when you feel more caught up and organized

[Luca Blight]

This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.

You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.

So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?

I like my vote here for now.

VOTE: Pikachu

[Detective Pikachu]

so you do feel caught up then?

[Luca Blight]

I voted you based on the present conversation we just had, not from having caught up?

[Detective Pikachu]

Ok but your reasoning for voting me is based on things you think I'm scumreading you for and not the reasons I'm scumreading you for, so it helps to know if you feel caught up or not

In any case I'd still like a reads list when you can

[Luca Blight]

Why are you scumreading me, then?

[Detective Pikachu]

Hmm natsu, arthur, and luca all have cognitive load but only 2 are scum

Still ok with luca/arthur for the moment tho

[Detective Pikachu]

Why are you scumreading me, then?

0 solving

[Luca Blight]

Why are you scumreading me, then?

0 solving

Based entirely on RVS posts, which is what I said before.

[Detective Pikachu]

Yeah but then when I invited you to take some solve you decided that the reason you wanted me to be scumreading you was for rqs which I don't even remember talking about so now I feel like you've responded to a 2-man wagon with omgus, strawmanning, and defensiveness. And still 0 solving

Like if you're aware you have a slow start you could come in and solve and be aware people may push you for activity for legitimate reasons but instead you're both aware you're scummy but still feel the need to overreact to the person pushing you

[Detective Pikachu]

Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it

[Luca Blight]

Strawmanning? You literally said I was scum for not answering RQS, don’t try to make out I’m misreppng you.

I’ve defended myself by being defensive? Oh, how awful.

I’ve already said I will catch-up when I get home, that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t engage you right now on what I feel is an opportunistic push.

[Detective Pikachu]

I just want to point out that DP and Hectic are probably the best two players in here XD

You do yourself a disservice, dsj!

I guess the other way of saying a lack of socializing would be to say that this feels like a "wolfy pop in" although I don't like that phrase. But the concept is there insofar as up until now you come into the thread, leave 2-3 posts that engage with no one present, and then vanish

[Luca Blight]

Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it

Ah, so I was the one who said I’m scum for avoiding RQS?

I’ve engaged you on all your reasons for SR’ing me, you’re zoning in on that one because you know it’s the most ridiculous and now you’re trying to distance yourself from it.

Going now, will be back later with my catch-up.

[Detective Pikachu]

Why aren't you answering the RQS, Arthur and Luca?

Because at least one of them rolled scum and possibly both

B

This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking

[Detective Pikachu]

Like that's a while after I state my scumread on you lol

[Detective Pikachu]

Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it

Ah, so I was the one who said I’m scum for avoiding RQS?

I’ve engaged you on all your reasons for SR’ing me, you’re zoning in on that one because you know it’s the most ridiculous and now you’re trying to distance yourself from it.

1- basically, yes
2-engaging me is not what I asked for

[DkKoba]

This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.

You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.

So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?

I like my vote here for now.

VOTE: Pikachu

I read Pikachu's tone as town so I'm curious as to why you think it is scum?

[72offsuit]

block done
is anyone here to talk to or

also these day lengths god

Its a maximum not a requirement

yeah, majority is a thing I know
the issue is people tend to not want to hammer unless its further through the game or late game

No sense to rush, the more time spent discussing the better. Dangle that noose for scum to slip their neck through.

[72offsuit]

I actually kinda like Natsu's answers.

Why'd you unvote, Doro? And to answer your question: if it's a vague indirect reference to an on going game, would probably not mention it. But otherwise, I'd let them know they shouldn't be doing that.

WHY do you "kinda like" natsu's answers?

[72offsuit]

*yawn* dp is condescending as fuck god

Don't really like this post - after DK has voiced annoyance at DP's gimmicky posting
and AC has criticised DP's town-to-scum-scale based off his RVS reads
- drumming up anti-pikachu vibes rather than pointing out any scummyness

[72offsuit]

Hey, friends!

I'm quite new, so is it okay if I lurk this game and try to learn from the more experienced people? Also, should we mass claim? It could be useful to talk about who we target in the night. I will start: I am the Town Goon. I am not allowed to target anyone in the night.

VOTE: 72offsuit

If we convince town to lynch one of the SE's today then we can NK the other

Lol.. love the gif. Well that would be different from last game, where all 3 SE's went to the last day 3-way lylo

[72offsuit]

Mostly for 28 tbh. I agree with most of the thoughts in 184, but maybe I'm being buddyed. He just hasn't done anything wrong so far. What don't you like?

I fail to see why you like his post 28.

Last game I played, the "placeholder vote" - "ill park my vote here for now, for no good reason at all" - sort of vote , ended up being a vote by scum.
And i think this kind of move is scummy. I think townies are more likely to change their mind and shift their votes organically, rather than b stilted, which i think is scummy.

[72offsuit]

Why are you scumreading me, then?

0 solving

Based entirely on RVS posts, which is what I said before.

I'm pretty sure we have moved past RVS - my definition of RVS phase anyway. Players have stated FoSes and have switched votes.
There is now some, yes limited, but some material to go off now