Newbie 1984 - Game Over

[Hectic]

Yeah nvm, Luca does bring the RQS thing up quite a few times.

[Detective Pikachu]

Pikachu, you have seemingly ignored my catch-up despite your apparent desire for it earlier.

Why is that?

Luca: calls this "Pikachu... any thoughts"

and then has the GALL

to accuse me of misreps

this post reads as "Hey Pikachu you haven't commented to my catchup in the time you were at work, why are you scum?"

Fuck off

[Luca Blight]

I discussed all his reasons for SR’ing me, it’s not like I ignored the others, and he’s the only one who keeps bringing it up still.

[Detective Pikachu]

9 minutes

that is how long it took me to respond to his catchup once I sat down

and he is BITCHING NONSTOP

about how I refused to comment on his catchup

[Hectic]

So far I'm townleaning Hectic and Round one. Hectic has some eccentric, well-honed style of geniusness that is producing information earlier on. Although I'm really not liking the weird naming schemes he's using. Half the time I have no idea who he is talking about. Who is jaiden?

Round One has an idgaf posting style, and overall looks like they know what they're talking about.

I'm kind of scumleaning pikachu, but that might be due to how shallowly he is bumping heads with Round One.

Scumleaning Luca as well for being afk, while only coming out of it to pocket Arthur and myself.

Pretty much null-reading everyone else. I'm finding it pretty silly that people are bringing up scum teams this early. Also, this thread moves too fast at times. I'm hoping the massive amounts of tiny one-line posts dies out. I feel like mass-spamming the thread helps mafia more (looking at pikachu especially on this one). More than town players who say literally nothing. There's shit that I swear I saw of value that I can't even find again after rebrowsing the thread. Guess I'll have to take more frivolous notes.

Not really liking the amount of filler in this post.

Why would you scumread me for being afk?

As for pocketing, do you not think my ‘townie point’ in your favour was warranted?

I think Natsu's point was fair here. Your early activity was being friendly to two slots and not questioning any others.

[Luca Blight]

Pikachu, you have seemingly ignored my catch-up despite your apparent desire for it earlier.

Why is that?

Luca: calls this "Pikachu... any thoughts"

and then has the GALL

to accuse me of misreps

this post reads as "Hey Pikachu you haven't commented to my catchup in the time you were at work, why are you scum?"

Fuck off

I did exactly the same to you as you did to me.

Being misrepped sucks, huh? Stop doing it, then.

[Detective Pikachu]

Your catch-up is underwhelming cos you only TR a quarter of the player list

ONE PLAYER is not a quarter of the player list

Your read on R1 was wiffly and waffly

You townread Hectic

If you had other townreads, you can reveal the mystery rather than screaming "OMG MISREPPPPPPPPPPP"

[Detective Pikachu]

I did exactly the same to you as you did to me.

I never fucking misrepped you

Not once

[Luca Blight]

9 minutes

that is how long it took me to respond to his catchup once I sat down

and he is BITCHING NONSTOP

about how I refused to comment on his catchup

More lies and misdirection.

You take 10% of what I say and paint it as the whole picture. You did it with the RQS BS and are doing it again now.

[Detective Pikachu]

Seriously if you cannot demonstrate I actually misrepped you in your next post, I'm going to refuse to move my vote from you for the remainder of the game

You can't spam that accusation without substantiating it

[Luca Blight]

I did exactly the same to you as you did to me.

I never fucking misrepped you

Not once

Lmao, ok. You’re either scum or highly delusional and have no self-awareness.

Once this has calmed down I will go through and show all the times you misrepped me in your portrayals, worse than I did to you.

[Detective Pikachu]

I have a life

your other reason is also BS given I had made 4 RVS posts at that point

ellitells are hit or miss but they aren't always miss

I like Luca's catchup, this is better to pursue: VOTE: Arthur

what do you like about it? he only commits to a townread on you 0.o

Excuse me but I intentionally helped get Hectic to L-1 in order to have a wagon to analyze. I believe it was Pikachu who said that wagon analysis is overrated (another reason I'm suspect of him, I could have easily lost my last game as scum if people just stared at the L-1 wagons long enough).

I didn't say wagon analysis is overrated; I said wagon analysis pre-flip is kinda pointless

~Moving onto other players. I still feel like Hectic is a townlean. The tunneling on Arthur could be a scum move.

?

Even though the bickering you two had seemed manufactured, Pikachu is doing that with everyone he scumreads.

doing what? bickering or having confidence in my reads?

Hectic/Natsu: Scum - Early on I saw them as a pair. I didn't see real attempts at trying to lynch each other, they then tried to distance themselves.

can you identify which posts make you feel this way?

I come back and see 3 votes on Artur but still not Artur, I feel scammed.
Also, I'm moving Luca into a townlean here.

which posts specifically did you like?

R1 sounds very innocent idk how to explain it but their tone is so pure i cant ever vote them here

sure but they look like they're kinda making me lose interest in this game so

Time between these posts is 9 minutes

Not a misrep

Next?

[Detective Pikachu]

Once this has calmed down I will go through and show all the times you misrepped me in your portrayals,

worse than I did to you

.

So to be clear, you admit you misrepped me

[Hectic]

I can’t help but feel Arthur is an easy target based on what he’s posted so far. It’s not spectacular, but I don’t see anything patricianly scummy about it, and I liked the tone of his defiant post greeting the thread.

What do you think of the points I've made on him?

[Luca Blight]

Seriously if you cannot demonstrate I actually misrepped you in your next post, I'm going to refuse to move my vote from you for the remainder of the game

You can't spam that accusation without substantiating it

I’m happy for the lynch today to be me or you - that is necessary because at best this is a distraction.

I’m phone posting so it takes time for me to go through quotes. I’ll do so once his shit has calmed a bit.

[Detective Pikachu]

Just want to make it crystal clear that you're acting like accusing you of being scum because you refused to play the game for 10 pages is somehow super fucking unreasonable but you choosing to respond to that by intentionally mispressing my posts in a bad-faith manner is somehow fucking ok

Nope. You can die

[Detective Pikachu]

I’m happy for the lynch today to be me or you - that is necessary because at best this is a distraction.

Why is it a distraction? Is it a distraction because I scumread you, or is it a distraction because you responded to a scumread by intentionally misrepresenting my posts--a point you admit?

[Luca Blight]

Once this has calmed down I will go through and show all the times you misrepped me in your portrayals,

worse than I did to you

.

So to be clear, you admit you misrepped me

I admit that my portrayal was a misrep in the same manner of yours. That’s why I made it - to give you a piece of your own medicine and show you it sucks to be misrepped.

[Detective Pikachu]

Yeah, except *if I disagree* with your characterization, that's not a "misrep" that's a disagreement

Dismissing disagreements as "misreps" is bad-faith and scummy

So I *disagreed* with your interpretation, and you responded by *intentionally misrepresenting my position*

that's scummy.

[Luca Blight]

I’m happy for the lynch today to be me or you - that is necessary because at best this is a distraction.

Why is it a distraction? Is it a distraction because I scumread you, or is it a distraction because you responded to a scumread by intentionally misrepresenting my posts--a point you admit?

Here you go again - zoning in on a fraction and ignoring the context.

YES, I deliberately misrepped you once because you continually misrepped me about 10 times. It was to show the nonsense that you speak. And you accuse me of arguing in bad faith? Have some self-awareness man, seriously.

A distraction at best if we’re both town.

[Luca Blight]

Luca: "I'm going to quote something by everyone in the game and then commit to not giving a position on them! Also I'm going to take literally every thing Pika says and say it's a misrep even though literally none of it is!"

Town: "Hmm Luca looks town"

Pika:

Spoiler:

Here you say i quoted everyone without giving a position on anyone. That is a blatant misrep.

[Detective Pikachu]

I admit that my portrayal was a misrep in the same manner of yours. That’s why I made it - to give you a piece of your own medicine and show you it sucks to be misrepped.

like j/w but how does this come from a town POV? This is just sickening

And then you act shocked when I'm losing interesting in winning this game for town, I have to at least entertain the possibility you're town and if this is your approach to the game it's really not worth my time. Likewise, if you're scum this is a really fucking annoying tactic to take and you're not worth defeating if this is what you're going to resort to

If you were town and were actually solving me, I'd *like to think* you wouldn't respond to a misguided push by being as shitty as you possibly could for the sake of being as shitty as you possibly can

[Detective Pikachu]

Here you say i quoted everyone without giving a position on anyone. That is a blatant misrep.

Hyperbole is not the same as "misrep"

I had already indicated I knew you claimed a townread on Hectic so this doesn't really make sense as a "misrep"

[Luca Blight]

Pikachu: "Why is Luca posting everywhere on site except here? Why doesn't he care about this game?"

Luca: "WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME FOR NOT ANSWERING RQS QUESTIONS????????"

Pikachu: "Actually I just don't really see you interacting here, but if you've been busy then I'm curious about your solve."

Luca: "YOU'RE MISREPPING ME! YOU SHOULD TOWNREAD ME FOR NOT GIVING A SHIT ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!"

Fuck off

If you're town you're never endgame material for me at this point so what's the difference

Here you make out I said you should TR me for not giving a shit about this game. I never said that or anything of the sort, so again you’re misrepping my position.

[Detective Pikachu]

YES, I deliberately misrepped you once because you continually misrepped me about 10 times.

I misrepped you 0 times