Mini Theme 2112: Skyrim Mod Upick Town Win

[gobbledygook]

Well, someone had to kill Pine.

[alimdia]

How does that make EVe not in your town block but Suji is?

[gobbledygook]

I think Suji killed Pine.

[Something_Smart]

since all you said was that you're a lightning rod

Right, that's a thing.

Someone tell me why lightning rod + elite bodyguard isn't busted as all hell.

[Wake1]

Who you calling less appealing?

VOTE: Alimdia

Kill it with our

Dragon Fire

Thanks for getting us to lvl 4 guys

I take it this was just a bluff?

[Wake1]

since all you said was that you're a lightning rod

Right, that's a thing.

Someone tell me why lightning rod + elite bodyguard isn't busted as all hell.

To become an Elite Bodyguard I have to have Board and Sword (or whatever it's called) get to level 5. Seeing as we've only voted Warrior Stone once, it feels unlikely I'll even reach that point.

[Wake1]

I think Suji killed Pine.

You're not hunting for a Vig, are you?

Or do you think this game is multiball?

[Wake1]

Wake, what did you target Dongfish with?

Bodyguard ability.

I think the two scum are within {Wake88, Eve, Alimidia, Mastina}

I have my preferences within that grouping.

Why exactly?

[alimdia]

since all you said was that you're a lightning rod

Right, that's a thing.

Someone tell me why lightning rod + elite bodyguard isn't busted as all hell.

Might have fake claims too. I didn't expect BS's claim to be a town claim. nor yours still tbh... ~ ~

[alimdia]

To get an autowin we'd need 4 conftowns that aren't me. Assuming gobble and DF aren't vig and DF is IC as they claimed, that's 3.

This doesn't have to be worked out until tomorrow, though, because I can always choose not to ask N4 if we don't want to do the plan.

Just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention.

Can you explain what other questions you can ask the mod?

[Something_Smart]

Not sure if I should.

What specifically do you want to know?

[Something_Smart]

nor yours still tbh... ~ ~

Elaborate?

[Something_Smart]

My power is confirmed, and this is the type of role that is far more often seen on town and has significantly more use for town than for scum.

It's totally reasonable to think it's possibly a scum role, but I can't see any plausible justification for expecting it to be a scum role, aside from balance concerns. But you don't even know my full role (nor the full setup) so how could you know if it's balanced.

[alimdia]

Not sure if I should.

What specifically do you want to know?

well for example can you ask if me(alimdia)(since I don't have an E in my name) and dongfish are the same alignment tonight?

[alimdia]

My power is confirmed, and this is the type of role that is far more often seen on town and has significantly more use for town than for scum.

It's totally reasonable to think it's possibly a scum role, but I can't see any plausible justification for expecting it to be a scum role, aside from balance concerns. But you don't even know my full role (nor the full setup) so how could you know if it's balanced.

uh I thought full claimed already.

Mainly the self suicide if use ability 4 times seems weird.

[Something_Smart]

No. I can only ask each question once.

I thought Zenith already said that.

[Something_Smart]

uh I thought full claimed already.

Mainly the self suicide if use ability 4 times seems weird.

I get the next modifier off of a list after each use of the power when the mage stone isn't active. The second modifier is "confused"-- cannot fill in blanks with anything containing the letter E.
The fourth modifier is "suicidal"-- that is, commits suicide at the end of the next day.

The modifiers seem meant to progress roughly in severity from less bad to more bad; through that lens, suicidal seems like a logical conclusion. It also neatly guarantees that he won't ever have to worry about what happens if I run off the end of the list-- I'll die before I can ask another question.

Also, it makes thematic sense, because my mod is Lovecraft-based and the idea is the more information I gather the more insane I become until it eventually drives me to suicide.

Among other things, I haven't claimed what the first and third modifiers are. I have no intention of doing so until it becomes relevant.

[Sujimichi]

I think Suji killed Pine.

Why do you think this?

[Sujimichi]

Someone tell me why lightning rod + elite bodyguard isn't busted as all hell.

I do not understand. What do you mean that it is "busted as all hell?"

[Something_Smart]

Busted is a synonym of broken, which means too powerful.

If lightning rod and elite bodyguard activate their power on the same night, and scum attempts to kill anyone at all (barring strongman or something similar), the scum that attempted the kill will die.

[Sujimichi]

Would not the Stone requirements make that combination of powers occurring during the same night unlikely within the time limit of the game? The Warrior Stone would have to be Level 5 and that Mage stone would have to be activated. Assuming we activated that Warrior Stone every day phase and that Wake88 is indeed a Leveler in addition to his Bodyguard/Neighbor role who can increase the Stone level by one during each night phase, it would be Day 3 before that power could activate. Gobbledygook has to have the Mage Stone active for his Lightning Rod ability to work so we would then have to wait until Day 4 to activate it and Night 4 for both powers to theoretically be active at the same time. With the set of circumstances required, would it still be considered to be a broken level of power?

Also, with the Stone levels that have occurred in this game, it is now impossible is it not?

[Sujimichi]

Wake88, why are you not voting alimdia?

[Something_Smart]

It's probably impossible now, yes. But with different stone choices it definitely could have happened.

You might be right that the designers figured the odds of that happening were so small it wasn't a problem, but it is an extremely rude combo to drop on scum. I guess it would probably have to be coordinated in-thread though which means at worst scum could just no-kill.

Probably the most relevant part of discussing this is trying to determine whether or not there's a strongman because if Wake can actually keep someone alive that could be a big deal. (Scum probably can't kill Wake or let him get a successful protection out without running into autoloss.)

[gobbledygook]

since all you said was that you're a lightning rod

Right, that's a thing.

Someone tell me why lightning rod + elite bodyguard isn't busted as all hell.

There’s some qualifications to my role that I think prevent this interaction from being what you think.

[gobbledygook]

I think Suji killed Pine.

Why do you think this?

You’ve been giving off vig vibes today with the ability related plea for me to vote Thief.