Newbie 1987 | Game Over

[Karnage]

Welcome!

NEWBIE 1987

mod: Karnage

Player List

• 72offsuit
  
  
• clidd
  *
  
• Maduisha
  
  
• Phi Kappa Phi
  
  
• GeneralWu
  
  
• OldMapleNostalgia
  
  
• ceejayvinoya*
  (SE)
  
• JacksonVirgo
  (SE)
  
• ObviousScum
  (SE)

* indicates a prod

Spoilers

Spoiler: living

• Maduisha
  
• JacksonVirgo

Spoiler: dead

• Phi Kappa Phi
  Vanilla Townie
  - Lynched Day 1
  
• ObviousScum
  Town Mason
  - Killed Night 1
  
• 72offsuit
  Vanilla Townie
  - Lynched Day 2
  
• clidd
  Vanilla Townie
  - Killed Night 2
  
• ceejayvinoya
  Mafia Goon
  - Lynched Day 3
  
• OldMapleNostalgia
  Town Mason
  - Killed Night 3
  
• GeneralWu
  Mafia Roleblocker
  - Lynched Day 4

Major Events

• 5 - Day 1 Starts
  
• 230 - Day 1 Ends

• 231 - Day 2 Starts
  
• 602 - Day 2 Ends

• 603 - Day 3 Starts
  
• 708 - Day 3 Ends

• 709 - Day 4 Starts
  
• 788 - End Game

[Karnage]

Rules Basics

• Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7-days, Night: 48 hours.
  
• Majority lynches (1/2 of the living players plus 1)
  
• 36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement
  
• Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
  
• Don't be a dick, remember this is just a game

General Rules

• Keep your interactions with other players respectful and follow all site Forum Rules and Guidelines.
  
• You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
  
• You may not directly quote any private communications (such as role PMs) in this thread.
  
• Do not try to obscure or hide any text in your post. This includes, but is not limited to: invisible text, tiny text, encrypted text, and text hidden within tags. Breadcrumbing is okay.
  
• Provable randomness is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
  
• Play to your win condition. Claiming scum by yourself is fine (though not advised). Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
  
• This
  is my color. Don't use it in a manner intended to impersonate the mod.
  
• If you need to ask me something, bold it to make sure I don't miss it.

Votes, Lynches, and Death

• Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Karnage or
  Vote: Karnage
  . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. Type [
  v]Karnage[
  /v] to vote and [
  uv]Karnage[
  /uv] to unvote.
  
• You may use abbreviations of usernames when you vote for someone so long as it is clear who the person in question is.
  
• A lynch will occur when a simple majority is reached. If deadline is reached without a simple majority, a no lynch occurs.
  
• All players, including the one who was lynched, may continue to post during the twilight phase.
  
• Once I have posted your death scene, you may not post (a single "bah" post is allowed but may not contain game related content).

Deadlines and Activity

• You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM; if you do not, you will be replaced. The game will start once 7/9 players confirm. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
  
• Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions to any deadline may be granted at the mod’s discretion.
  
• Every game night will have a deadline of 48 hours for night action submission. You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). Any actions not submitted by the deadline will be forfeited. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
  
• The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- notifies me of their desire for such via PM or PT and all night actions have been received.
  
• You will receive a prod if you do not post for 36 hours, at which point you will have 24 hours to post in the thread. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night. A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer.
  
• Saturdays and Sundays will be treated as a single 24 hour period for activity purposes.
  
• If a player receives more than three prods in one game day, he or she may be replaced. I may also replace players at my own discretion.
  
• If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 36-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 60 hours. Players with extended V/LA may be replaced.

[Karnage]

Introduction and Tips

Thanks to Irrelephant11 and others for their contributions to these tips.

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

[Karnage]

Setup Info

Newbie Setup

Newbie Setup

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Mason and Town Mason	Town Tracker and Town Doctor	Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goon

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Column A & Row 1:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 2:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column A & Row 3:

Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 1:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 2:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column B & Row 3:

Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5

Column C & Row 1:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 2:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6

Column C & Row 3:

Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Mods should use the sample role PMs below.

Sample Role PM's (click on the spoiler button to reveal)

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Welcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Jailkeeper

Welcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Cop

Welcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Mason

Welcome!

You are a

Town Mason

.

You know that [player] is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town Tracker

Welcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Doctor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town Friendly Neighbor

Welcome!

You are a

Town Friendly Neighbor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia Goon

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Rolecop

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia Roleblocker

Welcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

[Karnage]

Mod Note

Role PMs have been sent out. The game will begin when 7/9 players confirm or in (expired on 2020-02-22 14:00:00), whichever occurs first.

[Karnage]

Day 1

8 out of 9 players have confirmed. It is now Day 1

JacksonVirgo has (expired on 2020-02-22 14:00:00) to confirm or be replaced.

[Karnage]

Vote Count 1.0

Not voting (9) ~

72offsuit, clidd, Maduisha, Phi Kappa Phi, GeneralWu, OldMapleNostalgia, ceejayvinoya, JacksonVirgo, ObviousScum

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-03-01 19:00:00)

V/LA: none

[GeneralWu]

Yo guys i'm first here

[ObviousScum]

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[ObviousScum]

Random Voting Stage begins ... now!

VOTE: GeneralWu

[OldMapleNostalgia]

First is the worst... Second is also the worst >:(
My brother is in Phi Kappa Phi...
VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Maduisha (who shall be named Mad for short, going forward, barring strenuous objection)

Because Ma stands for Mafia.

And you thought that you could sneakily hide your alignment in your username...

A sheep in wolf's clothing if I ever saw one.

[72offsuit]

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Way to keep a low profile. Big shiny type font and an Epstein/Trump avatar :O

[Phi Kappa Phi]

First is the worst... Second is also the worst >:(
My brother is in Phi Kappa Phi...
VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

sensing some baggage here

[Phi Kappa Phi]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Sorry buddy, I googled our astrological compatibility and it's not gonna work between us

[72offsuit]

I see we have a few newly-registered players in this game.

What is everyone's prior experience in playing mafia (forum mafia or otherwise)?
Do you prefer playing as town or scum?

This is my 3rd game of forum mafia. I have also previously played browser-based mafia (epicmafia) and enjoy hidden identity board games
I prefer to play as town. I enjoy solving/deducing who is who in the zoo. I find being mafia can be stressful.

[Phi Kappa Phi]

Virgo & Sagittarius Trust

If you dig for the biggest problem in the relationship between a Virgo and a Sagittarius partner, you will realize that it is their lack of trust, not only in each other, but in their entire relationship. As friends, they can be unshakeable about their convictions and hold on to some traditional values together, but as soon as they start a romantic relationship, both of them seem to start feeling trapped.

Virgo doesn’t look like a zodiac sign that will easily feel trapped, but their mutable quality makes them impatient and always in search for change. They cannot be held in one place for long, any more than a Sagittarius can. The main difference being the degree of sacrifice they are willing to make. Out of these emotions, both partners will start feeling the need to be with someone different, and this is a relationship with probably the biggest potential for adultery, unless incredible guilt stops them first. Communication followed by mutual respect is their only chance of building a trustful bond.

[Phi Kappa Phi]

I see we have a few newly-registered players in this game.

What is everyone's prior experience in playing mafia (forum mafia or otherwise)?
Do you prefer playing as town or scum?

This is my 3rd game of forum mafia. I have also previously played browser-based mafia (epicmafia) and enjoy hidden identity board games
I prefer to play as town. I enjoy solving/deducing who is who in the zoo. I find being mafia can be stressful.

I've played a few games years ago and lurked here for a while before joining

My nerves get to me a little more when I play scum, so I'm with you there

[ObviousScum]

Dear new players:
please upload avatars!

as a SEMI EXPERIENCED PLAYER, it is my job to policy lynch anyone who refuses to get an avatar day 1. This is uhhh in page 4, subsection 11, of Semi Experienced Player's Guide 101

[72offsuit]

Dear new players:
please upload avatars!

as a SEMI EXPERIENCED PLAYER, it is my job to policy lynch anyone who refuses to get an avatar day 1. This is uhhh in page 4, subsection 11, of Semi Experienced Player's Guide 101

Agreed. I have also read said manual. A fine read.
Avatars make for much easier identification as to whom the post belongs to at a glance.

@ ObviousScum (OS): As an SE (how could anyone have missed this fact), are you more skillful in playing as town or scum / do you have a better win rate as town or scum)?

[ObviousScum]

@ ObviousScum (OS): As an SE (how could anyone have missed this fact), are you more skillful in playing as town or scum / do you have a better win rate as town or scum)?

pika-pika, pikachu!

wait, shit, wrong alt

uhhh clearly as obvious scum I am the best scum player that ever played scum, my scum play is the best, best of the best, world-class scumgame. everyone comes to ms.net to see OS's scumgame. he's so subtle, so wiley, so charismatic. it cannot be denied!!!!

:3

How about you, did your answers change since last game?

[ObviousScum]

uhhh clearly as obvious scum I am the best scum player that ever played scum, my scum play is the best, best of the best, world-class scumgame. everyone comes to ms.net to see OS's scumgame. he's so subtle, so wiley, so charismatic. it cannot be denied!!!!

This is supposed to be sarcasm but I just realized the "Moment of Brilliance" scummy this year was for catching me so... I guess some people on site think my scum game is good? odd since I feel most people call me obvious scum ;3

[GeneralWu]

First is the worst... Second is also the worst >:(
My brother is in Phi Kappa Phi...
VOTE: Phi Kappa Phi

I smell OOT

[GeneralWu]

I see we have a few newly-registered players in this game.

What is everyone's prior experience in playing mafia (forum mafia or otherwise)?
Do you prefer playing as town or scum?

This is my 3rd game of forum mafia. I have also previously played browser-based mafia (epicmafia) and enjoy hidden identity board games
I prefer to play as town. I enjoy solving/deducing who is who in the zoo. I find being mafia can be stressful.

I've played like 12 games on mafiauniverse and artofproblemsolving.com and I have a 100% win rate as mafia :O

[72offsuit]

@ ObviousScum (OS): As an SE (how could anyone have missed this fact), are you more skillful in playing as town or scum / do you have a better win rate as town or scum)?

pika-pika, pikachu!

wait, shit, wrong alt

uhhh clearly as obvious scum I am the best scum player that ever played scum, my scum play is the best, best of the best, world-class scumgame. everyone comes to ms.net to see OS's scumgame. he's so subtle, so wiley, so charismatic. it cannot be denied!!!!

:3

How about you, did your answers change since last game?

Lol. Why am I not surprised it's you DP. Thought Hetic would be in this game too based off the games queue.

As to which alignment I am stronger at, I think I'm slightly better at town.
Though I think i'm decent at scum, poker definitely helps with the bluffing - Side note - I've got a great poker face... my po-po-ker-face-nah-nah-nah