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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:27 pm

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I think Ame sounded really genuine in #415, like she was pouring her heart out. I think Clidd might be town cause he seems really invested in solving; don't know if scum goes this far.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:30 pm

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Luca I still don't feel good on wrt to slaxx, because imo, slaxx looked bad, but I could kind of see him taking advantage of that if he was scum and slaxx was town.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:46 pm

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my mind is still kinda unchanged. I'll come back later maybe
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:45 am

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Officer "Officer" Officer cruising through a motorway.
In post 131, Luca Blight wrote:I get the feeling in general that's she's just blending in, asking easy questions and not trying to create waves. I don't feel her questions, particularly the ones to Ame regarding the RQS, have any sorting potential to them.
Ask Knight Luca why he decided to answer Ame's RQS this game. Additionally, why he actually used them to develop a scumread on someone; given we had established he is a not a fan of RQS and in its solving potential.

It also seems that my toneread has fallen on deaf ears; but I have an odd belief about this. There's small discrepancies which I may try and pinpoint more of later.

I've read slaxx' interactions this game and his stance on clidd's overconfidence and cliddiness felt very real until he switched on his stance once reading the Brass and Shrapnel Game.

Kanna has played like she always does; inquisitive and generally open about thoughts. The Traffic Commision Board doesn't sense any differences.

Detective Ame had a reasonable explanation and thought process behind everything we inquired into.

Clidd's effort this game is a major civilian-indicator. This is an above average amount of investment even for civilian-clidd, but I will be rereading his content later.

Others need some rereading.

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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:19 am

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Inspector "Inspector" Inspector pouring over this peculiar case.
In post 435, clidd wrote:Well, I believe that the differences in quality of playerlists are not significant to invalidate the read, so I won't comment it. Until now, I was relying on the fact that he used information about me transparently, something that I would not hesitate to associate with
town!Luca
. However, with these comparisons,
Hectic
, the problem is that you are assuming that he would follow the same
scum
line of reasoning as the game in which both of you participated together. Could you explain why he did not avoid using the same neutral method, considering that you are here too, and could, evidently, unmask him ?
Professor Clidd, you're suggesting that he's intentionally playing more friendly/less blunt which imitates his lawbreaker game, while being a civilian?
Now, if he was a lawbreaker imitating his civilian game, than I can understand why you'd say "he doesn't always have to display his previous lawbreaker traits, so he could still be a lawbreaker here.", but suggesting the opposite in that he could still be a
civilian
despite displaying lawbreaker traits suggests you are discrediting all 3 of those civilian games I showed you were he does not play like this. And it doesn't make sense for civilian!him to play more like his lawbreaker self rather than play normally. I don't understand what you mean; could you be hiding some dark potions under your desk, Professor?

In fact, your 180 on The Force from your strongest civilianread to a lawbreaker-read ever since we declared our suspicion on Luca, and this defiance just now suggests to me that you may be "in cahoots" with Luca.

Also, earlier, you suggested that Kanna and Compath were "scum-indicative" due to answering questions to a RQS which resembled your own when you were once a lawbreaker. This isn't even using the meta of another player, this is using your lawbreaker meta of 1 game to develop a lawbreaker-read on someone else.
So, for you to now suggest my meta-read of 4 games on the same player does not hold weight is very strange indeed.

Anime Kanna, I hear you are the Clidd-whispherer around these parts of Strawberryville. Do you agree?

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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:30 am

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In post 427, Compath wrote:
In post 425, Compath wrote:
In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
Town!Ico never does that?
Joke by the way, in case it wasn't clear.
wait

wut

huh?

Can you explain this joke to me...
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:34 am

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In post 445, Compath wrote:He's contradicting himself as well as shading others. He backs off too easily as well.

When questioned he either dodges the question, or answers the question in a way where it seems like he answers the question but the answer doesn't actually have any real substance.

Plus, his posts have a forced formal tone to them, and they seem hard to read on purpose.
You're reading him off NAI points since this is how he normally plays. Why are you ignoring the meta that's been provided?
In post 267, Compath wrote:
In post 264, Luca Blight wrote:I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start
Yikes...
In post 278, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 271, Slaxx wrote:I mean ones he actually played?
No, but the fact he clearly hates playing as scum and the fact his play here resembles his Town game suggests he's more likely Town imo.
In post 270, Slaxx wrote:oh christ.

I am reading Micro 915 | Brass & Shrapnel and Clidd is actually that fucking cocky about his reads as town. And hilariously wrong that game. Okay, Luca, do you have any knowledge of games where he is scum?

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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:50 am

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What's the difference between joker and null
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:50 am

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And i don't really feel like making a readlist just yet
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:52 am

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In post 414, Ame wrote:I'm working on it. BoP means treating someone as town so long as they are lynching scum, correct?
Yeah. The idea is that they have plus town value as town since they're good at the game. Also probably means I should unvote them
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:56 am

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In post 419, clidd wrote:In this case, it is more difficult to use the analysis method by association, since these posts agree with a game pattern that aims at more frequency and objectivity than necessarily in the numerical expansion factor. Even with a metaread applied, this constancy is difficult to discriminate specifically to define a possible alignment. As a result, he remains null, until I am able to distinguish him correctly. I would like an opinion from those who have played with him.
Can you like, speak in a non esoteric tone? I read this 3 times and didn't understand this and I'm surprised no one is calling you out
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:58 am

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VOTE: ico
Although this feels sad because he's no contest until next monday
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:48 am

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Im back.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 442, Compath wrote:Probably look something like

{the
worst
best}
{Ame, Luca}
{Ico, Kanna}
{Hectic, DDL}
Null
{Slaxx}
{Clidd}


{Datisi}

fixed!
Apart from 2 players, the rest is incorrect.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 445, Compath wrote:He's contradicting himself as well as shading others. He backs off too easily as well.

When questioned he either dodges the question, or answers the question in a way where it seems like he answers the question but the answer doesn't actually have any real substance.

Plus, his posts have a forced formal tone to them, and they seem hard to read on purpose.
Hum, ok.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 446, Compath wrote:I think Luca's interactions with Slaxx make him pretty obvious town.
Likely
town
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 448, Compath wrote:A lot of my reads are gut reads to be honest.

Like not in the sense that I can't put my finger on why I TR/SR them, but more like I don't carefully look at their posts.

It's kind of hard to explain.
Is that "guts" you mention a random guess ?
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 450, Kanna wrote:I think Ame sounded really genuine in #415, like she was pouring her heart out. I think Clidd might be town cause he seems really invested in solving; don't know if scum goes this far.
I have the same feeling about
Ame
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 454, Hectic wrote:Inspector "Inspector" Inspector pouring over this peculiar case.
In post 435, clidd wrote:Well, I believe that the differences in quality of playerlists are not significant to invalidate the read, so I won't comment it. Until now, I was relying on the fact that he used information about me transparently, something that I would not hesitate to associate with
town!Luca
. However, with these comparisons,
Hectic
, the problem is that you are assuming that he would follow the same
scum
line of reasoning as the game in which both of you participated together. Could you explain why he did not avoid using the same neutral method, considering that you are here too, and could, evidently, unmask him ?
Professor Clidd, you're suggesting that he's intentionally playing more friendly/less blunt which imitates his lawbreaker game, while being a civilian?
Now, if he was a lawbreaker imitating his civilian game, than I can understand why you'd say "he doesn't always have to display his previous lawbreaker traits, so he could still be a lawbreaker here.", but suggesting the opposite in that he could still be a
civilian
despite displaying lawbreaker traits suggests you are discrediting all 3 of those civilian games I showed you were he does not play like this. And it doesn't make sense for civilian!him to play more like his lawbreaker self rather than play normally. I don't understand what you mean; could you be hiding some dark potions under your desk, Professor?

In fact, your 180 on The Force from your strongest civilianread to a lawbreaker-read ever since we declared our suspicion on Luca, and this defiance just now suggests to me that you may be "in cahoots" with Luca.

Also, earlier, you suggested that Kanna and Compath were "scum-indicative" due to answering questions to a RQS which resembled your own when you were once a lawbreaker. This isn't even using the meta of another player, this is using your lawbreaker meta of 1 game to develop a lawbreaker-read on someone else.
So, for you to now suggest my meta-read of 4 games on the same player does not hold weight is very strange indeed.

Anime Kanna, I hear you are the Clidd-whispherer around these parts of Strawberryville. Do you agree?

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Inspector, to clarify things: we are working with the context
'' Luca acted maliciously and Hectic witnessed, Luca, therefore, decided to repeat the act even with Hectic already witnessing him ? ''
, This is basically supposing that a thief will use the same method of theft in the same residence twice in a row, knowing that he can be easily caught by the owners. If the playerlist were totally different, I would even agree, but there are players here who have seen
Luca
in more than one match, so it is expected that
scum!Luca
alternates his way of playing (just like you do with each game) , to distance himself as much as possible from such a read. I am considering the possibility that he is comfortable in this game, and because of that, he did not premeditate the style he would apply, as was seen when he answered the
Ame
questionnaire without opposition. Not to mention that he used the information he had about my
scums
games openly, almost as if he didn't care because he considered the meta to point to me as
town
. Don't you think it would be safer to him not to take this type of instance ? I thought we could have collaborated simultaneously in this investigation, but I believe I am mistaken. However, I will wait for a position from
Luca
regarding this and decide if you will go to the
'' Scum indicative ''
session.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 457, DrDolittle wrote:What's the difference between joker and null
Null is null, ''Joker'' is more volatile. In your case, as I have difficulty reading your behavior, I prefer not to associate it with any of the alignments.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 458, DrDolittle wrote:And i don't really feel like making a readlist just yet
Do a small summary and show it.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:51 am

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In post 460, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 419, clidd wrote:In this case, it is more difficult to use the analysis method by association, since these posts agree with a game pattern that aims at more frequency and objectivity than necessarily in the numerical expansion factor. Even with a metaread applied, this constancy is difficult to discriminate specifically to define a possible alignment. As a result, he remains null, until I am able to distinguish him correctly. I would like an opinion from those who have played with him.
Can you like, speak in a non esoteric tone? I read this 3 times and didn't understand this and I'm surprised no one is calling you out
That's my normal tone. Occasionally, I post notes to remember later.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:53 am

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Do you have your responses all written out beforehand and then post them separately?
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:53 am

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@Ame
, what do you think about Hectic's case about
Luca
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 472, Ame wrote:Do you have your responses all written out beforehand and then post them separately?
Depending on my mood, yes.
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