7 thoughts after 7 years on MS
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7 thoughts after 7 years on MS
1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it.
2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.
3) People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely disagree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town.
4) When an average player makes a readslist in the game, their townreads and scumreads are generally less likely to be scum and their nullreads are more likely to be scum.
5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
6) Having bad reads doesn't make one a bad town player unless you force the entire town to act on your reads as opposed to being a team player.
7) Ideas about town unity and working together to win are great ideals but are, in most situations, lies. Someone has to get lynched. A chunk of players in most games will not have any reads on any players that are more consistent than at least one other townies read on that player. That's the nature of the game. Averaging all of the games reads is less effective as a method of play than relying on whoever in the game has the best read on each individual player. Whether it's more fun or not is another question entirely.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- popsofctown
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happy scumday"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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happy scumday.
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what do u mean by thisIn post 4, RadiantCowbells wrote:Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult maybe
I'd have to think about itShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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This.In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:3) People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely disagree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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This too.In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:6) Having bad reads doesn't make one a bad town player unless you force the entire town to act on your reads as opposed to being a team player.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.To be clear: my avatar was drawn by SaveTheDragons.- gobbledygook
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Do you mean in the abstract or in the actual game being played?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it.-
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100% yesIn post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.- Amrun
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+1In post 10, Ankamius wrote:
100% yesIn post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:2) Most people's biggest weakness as scum is that they just don't have their heart in it and it's obvious.- RadiantCowbells
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i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- popsofctown
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pls dont attac meIn post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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the odds are 50/50, it either works or it doesn'tIn post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.
just been unlucky but it'll even out trust meTo be clear: my avatar was drawn by SaveTheDragons.- Ramcius
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To learn from their mistakes, first they must admit that what they're doing are mistakesIn post 12, RadiantCowbells wrote:
i have seen so many players make the same mistakes over and over again and refuse to learn from them.In post 8, SleepyKrew wrote:
really had to stretch to hit 7 eh?In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:5) The people who realize they made mistakes and learn from those mistakes are the ones who end up improving.- Ranmaru
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I've realized this over time. My super confident reads are rarely scum. The reads that are 'meh' in nature to me turn out to be scum, sometimes.In post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:4) When an average player makes a readslist in the game, their townreads and scumreads are generally less likely to be scum and their nullreads are more likely to be scum.- RadiantCowbells
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this seems so astonishingly self-evident now I see it written down and yet it was never a thought I had myself before seeing it hereIn post 0, RadiantCowbells wrote:1) Trying to determine intellectually what scum are likely or not likely to do is far less effective than determining what scum actually do and looking for it. - Menalque
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