Titus v. Alisae (endgame)


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Post Post #8175 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:01 pm

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Hectic scum does not make rr scum, but rr scum makes Hectic scum.
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Post Post #8176 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:01 pm

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RR flips town, Hectic is still the right play
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Post Post #8177 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:01 pm

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In post 5791, Reasonably Rational wrote:I mean, if I could I would go grab our discord and show it to you, but basically Drixx said "Chemist is a mason." I said "wut? I don't see it" Then we didn't talk and it was deadline. So yeah.

I assure you, if I was lying about Drixx thinking Chemist was a mason, I would have much better reasoning than this.

I'm a very good liar.
this means that all of the "chemist is town" reasoning they had was to avoid pushback; I believe this reasoning but this argument being true in no way makes RR town and their progression on that slot much worse in retrospect

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Post Post #8178 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:02 pm

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VOTE: RR

VOTE: Hectic

Did i hammer?
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Post Post #8179 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:02 pm

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@FL

Vote RR because AF is an Obv Miss Lynch I’d like to avoid.
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Post Post #8180 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:02 pm

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In post 8178, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: RR

VOTE: Hectic

Did i hammer?
Just vote RR.
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Post Post #8181 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:02 pm

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ScumRR means likely ScumHectic.

TownRR means LockScumHectic.
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Post Post #8182 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 pm

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In post 5759, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 5752, Titus wrote:@RR, No. That's not the suspect part at all. I have given you time. Don't see why you're worried if you think he's town. You ought to know my primary worry. My secondary worry is your deflection away from Bitmap, but that only applies if he is scum.
I don't think he's town in particular?

I think he's...oh...got about a 3/16(those are the remaining numbers in this game, right), chance of being scum. :P That is, I've put 0 effort into resolving him, which means *likely* 1/2 is better odds than what he represents to me.

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Post Post #8183 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 pm

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You complain about it and this is only going to cause conflict.

Scum is within Hectic, Ank and RR.
So lynch there.
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Post Post #8184 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 pm

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In post 8181, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumRR means likely ScumHectic.

TownRR means LockScumHectic.
So vote RR.
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Post Post #8185 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:04 pm

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In post 8181, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumRR means likely ScumHectic.

TownRR means LockScumHectic.
thanks for your contribution boon <3

I'm gonna switch to some video games to round out the night, you guys take it easy

I don't actually think we need a rushed vote, but I do think this is a good push

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Post Post #8186 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:04 pm

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im very happy actually this works for reasons

VOTE: rr
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Post Post #8187 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:06 pm

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Eh.
Yeah whatever.

Hectic’s Claim is Fake.
Chemist1422, Town Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Voyeur, Neighbouriser

Hectic said he has Tracker. But that makes no sense with Chemist’s flip.
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Post Post #8188 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:06 pm

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Either way I think we lynch RR and then Hectic.
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Post Post #8189 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:08 pm

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i dont see how having tracker makes no sense explain
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Post Post #8190 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 8189, OkaPoka wrote:i dont see how having tracker makes no sense explain
Voy is a weaker tracker.
Scum had 2 JOAT’s of same strength.
Hectic should have Voy not Tracker if they are Town.
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Post Post #8191 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:34 pm

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VOTE: RR

Yeah, my earlier solve was RR/Hectic, I should stick with it. Not super confident, but enough to go there
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Post Post #8192 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:25 pm

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In post 8190, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 8189, OkaPoka wrote:i dont see how having tracker makes no sense explain
Voy is a weaker tracker.
Scum had 2 JOAT’s of same strength.
Hectic should have Voy not Tracker if they are Town.
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Post Post #8193 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:14 pm

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L-1. I think? Going to sleep now.

Anything my opinion is desired on when I wake up, assuming I'm still alive then?

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Post Post #8194 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:49 pm

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Assuming this insanity results in our lunch, you’ll want to look very closely at OkaPoka and S&W. Oka has been pushing hard to make everyone claim today, despite being told repeatedly that we shouldn’t and Titus knows why. There’s not any town motive there but I can see scum being scared by our refusal to claim along with the fact that a pretty vague reference was enough for a Titus to realize ... because it’s strong and we’ve demonstrated the ability to leverage it in the past.

S&W isn’t developing an honest read on us. He’s starting with a destination in mind and then looking for anything he can manipulate to support it. If my post was really such blatant fearmongering, for example, he would have said so when I made it. It clearly didn’t come across that way when I made it because nobody commented. Scum have to approach getting mislynches exactly in the way S&W is behaving right now.

I wouldn’t discount TSE as scum here either. Bizarre tonal shifts and behavior shifts combined with pushing two theories which were never reasonable at all are bad looks from him. The pushes look a lot like setting up mislynch chains, especially now that we have a chemist flip plus we know we flip green AND we have pretty solid reasons to believe another JOAT style role is town as well.


The common thread with all three slots is very obvious scum motive for their approach. For S&W and TSE there is a pretty clear view of they are making up a story since they can’t legit game solve due to being informed, and you can see the fingerprints of that pretty clear if you step back and see the forest.

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Post Post #8195 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:16 pm

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VOTE: Hectic

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Post Post #8196 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:21 pm

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hello flavor leafy boi i heard u were awake at this hour
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Post Post #8197 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:26 pm

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now that I look at the playerlist again, I think it's exactly Hectic/AF
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Post Post #8198 (ISO) » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:26 pm

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someone remind me why Oka is town again?
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Post Post #8199 (ISO) » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:16 am

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I changed my mind, krazy can be town

there's something fundamentally wrong with how this game progressed today but I can't be assed to figure it out today

honestly I think there's good odds we just have both scum wagoned and we're tearing ourselves apart trying to figure out which one to kill first
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