Open 774 || Purgatory — Game Over

[Team STRQ]

Incorrect!

-Summer

[Wooper]

Oh cool I'm voting scum.

And I'm non-voting town.

HEAL: S_S

VOTE: pops

Hydra dissonance is always town :3

-Q

pedit: Q is Qrow

the more prudent question, and the one that was asked, is what are all of the heads!

We are all town!

Except for

Raven

, she's a bit out there at times.

-Summer

These were the posts which made me think Summer Krazzy against my intuition

Am i correct if we swap summer/qrow

[Team STRQ]

That isn't part of the deal, my dear. :3

-Summer

[Wooper]

Sigh 30 is quite Krazzy too
you're definitely messing with tonality, and individually none of you have advanced enough reads for me to ID you thru meta

[Wooper]

should have trusted my gut. Damn Krazzy and his cool uncle energy.

[Wooper]

pops if i told you i'm really struggling to get a read on you, think about 3 of your posts are kinda maybe towny, and think amrun is scum, does that help with this dialogue at all?

also on implo: the idea that he's intentionally de facto rng responding to being wagoned by throwing out bizarre boiling hot takes is crossing my mind the more i think about it but I'm not really sure I'll nail his alignment from WIFOMing myself through this. I think he gets more transparent here, not less. are you comfortably null on him? gth when you try to solve this game, are you looking for his buddies or for scum outside of him?

I don't see implo partners rn and am fairly uncomfortable width amrun/homura at a minimum, and think an implo/homu/amrun solve is kinda wonky

my reads might be disproportionately advanced but is there anything in this post which is inspiring you to open your brain to me?

I think the best way i can sum up my hydra read rn is it feels like we're all playing jenga while the hydra is playing with their new trumpet

I suppose I'd like something less erratic and maybe just a better presented summary of where they/their heads are at rn

I think hydra unison is for nerds, hydra dissonance is highly underrated, but i don't feel them within the flow of the game aorn. not detached. an active spectator. I'm hungry for more.

I feel like so many people have posted a weird comment of some kind about the hydra that it probably has partners and like maybe we should just flip it
This comment itself and lack of accompanying vote will probably go into the pile but that's ok as it will only increase the momentum for "just flip it"

I was toying with the idea of policy heavenlynching it
policy helllynch on that hydra would be a huge waste if it's town, lot of late game solving potential, I'd just quite like it to turn the volume down and turn the bass up

basically same camp - it's maybe scum with whoeverthefuck and I'm having a hard time moving it out of null

in retrospect i really quite like implo sticking his head out with the "hydra is always null" read

pops i still really want to taste your soul this game please

I feel like we were so close to connecting... and then you reached out and angelically booped my nose, whispering "not today, dear wooper"...

[Team STRQ]

That was a fun diversion, thank you wooper.

I'll be back later, I'm in pain right now and want to try to resolve that before getting into things.

-Summer

[Wooper]

Whichever head you are i love you. Look after yourself and see you later.

[popsofctown]

I like all the players in the hydra but I don't like hydras.

I think I owe Wooper something I'm gonna be back in a second

[Wooper]

since I ~alluded~ to really liking Elmo but didn't go into it a whole bunch, a few notes

Thing is I don't see that vote as a not doing something vote more just to turn the heat up on the game a little. I wish more were here for the moment but I don't think we're going to get that.

Right now the hydra confuses me but my read on them tells me that we're fine at this moment and justification. If anything I wish there were a few more chiming in.

This didn't do much for me at the time but from what i remember was v much the first kinda off beat comment about discomfort in trying to read the hydra -- it's the first one that basically stuck with me anyway. at the time i didn't like it much because i find a lot of "stuff reading the hydra" comments as brushoffs.

in retrospect similarly to liking implo's advancement wrt hard null on them i quite like Elmo opening the dialogue on how jarring the hydra dynamic is. she also seems to circle back to kinda just null/towning and leaving them to do their thing for a moment which is probs lacking enough in agenda that its just sincere (or like w/w with the hydra if we're on Planet Oh Fuck)

STRQ Does bring a good point up in 93 about town blocs. Amrun is reading town. I really don't like 94 from pops it just feels sorta forced like here's my vote and I don't have much reason because I town read the other

I think I've kinda spilled this already but i agree with this take and am not super comfortable with Amrun's contrary read on pops.

Noting also the brief townread on Amrun. at this point the pair's firsthand interactions have been Amrun voting Elmo, friendly greeting/catchup, then bouncing onto implosion (going from voting Elmo to joining Elmo's rvs wagon) as soon as there was content to analyse

unsure if sleepybrain but when i read joined amr/elmo ISOs this reads amrun=>elmo pockety

I don't think the hydra knows what's going on with their heads right now which is saying something. I'm not enjoying the confusion from this and implosion has been voting for a while now. So that just screams a bit weird to me.

Not a bit fan of a pressure vote. But I get it.

just an echo discomfort with hydra doesn't read opportunistic

Thing is I don't see that vote as a not doing something vote more just to turn the heat up on the game a little. I wish more were here for the moment but I don't think we're going to get that.

Right now the hydra confuses me but my read on them tells me that we're fine at this moment and justification. If anything I wish there were a few more chiming in.

what exactly do you like from the hydra and why do you find like all of implo/pops/amrun for example less remarkable at this point

There are some reads I enjoy from the hydra but more heads more confusion. I've never been a fan of hydras and more cooks in the kitchen just throw me off.

I have my reads on the 3 of them and I'm 100% sure there is a 33% chance of one being scum and my gut says it's not implosion. But pops not saying much didn't help me get a gut read.

VOTE: Amrun.
Why you gotta be scum in my games?

this read turnaround gave me mild whiplash but Amrun is
1) under the radar, unwagoned
2) not an easy target
3) actually indeed scummy in a fairly lowkey way

Pedit: pops I had higher hopes for you. Not to be a memer. But Is this normal for pops to be this quiet?

kinda auxiliary because it didn't form my initial impression but struck me while I'm towncasing: this is -charisma +solving on a player who Elmo has some pocket equity with

For Elmo to be scum she has decided to systematically alienate the exactly two (2) players who appear to have prior firsthand experience with her including Amrun who has already soft buddied her itt regardless of their alignments

@Team STRQ: I’m actually also confused by what you’re saying - implo is clearly voting me?

what?????
i'm not????

Omg lol you’re not. I thought you were. Why aren’t you?

VOTE: Amrun.
Why you gotta be scum in my games?

I don't think you two are the same alignment. I want to find the scum(s) in you, Amrun, and implosion.

Can you go little deeper on where the non-t/t/t read on these three comes from? i am the first to admit I'm half assing solving so far but this feels pretty random

Looker always thinks I’m scum so like ... this seems on par for town looker actually.

end of Amrun iso so far - doesn't acknowledge Elmo's read fliparound

Amrun has gone from voting to voting with Elmo which implies some level of townread, or at least scumreading other slots a lot more; Elmo's read trajectory is pretty jarring and I'd be surprised if Amrun missed this as valuable sorting information

if this is coming from a world where Elmo/Amrun are as theatreing: i find it really weird that Amrun doesn't acknowledge/play the theatre at all

I think this interaction is uniquely town indicative for Elmo, softly scum indicative for Amrun, anti-s/s indicative

[Wooper]

key takeaways because i accidentally a wall:
- Elmo accepted and then turned around a buddy attempt from Amrun.
- Admin didn't acknowledge the same.
- Elmo's more noncomittal reads are more thread flow oriented and lack any opportunism.
- Elmo is playing to sort, not charismatically (potentially anti-charismatically)

[Wooper]

For the record, this post up is pops prior to Elmo stating her discomfort. it's a pretty disengaged/surface wolfy iso without knowing not to try and alignment read pops off it at this point in her meta. so i lean #teamelmo on the pops read. I'm not sure whether amrun=>pops reads pockety or buddyish tbh and i really think it's going to be easier to just sort pops /o\

[popsofctown]

I don't think I've ever played with Elmo

[Wooper]

huh i might have read too much into your happiness at her returning
don't think that materially diminishes my point much, but correction noted

I think we played together for like 2 irl days in an open but since then I've read some of her older games and she's cool

[popsofctown]

pops if i told you i'm really struggling to get a read on you, think about 3 of your posts are kinda maybe towny, and think amrun is scum, does that help with this dialogue at all?

also on implo: the idea that he's intentionally de facto rng responding to being wagoned by throwing out bizarre boiling hot takes is crossing my mind the more i think about it but I'm not really sure I'll nail his alignment from WIFOMing myself through this. I think he gets more transparent here, not less. are you comfortably null on him? gth when you try to solve this game, are you looking for his buddies or for scum outside of him?

I don't see implo partners rn and am fairly uncomfortable width amrun/homura at a minimum, and think an implo/homu/amrun solve is kinda wonky

my reads might be disproportionately advanced but is there anything in this post which is inspiring you to open your brain to me?

I have stated before that Amrun might be scum who is TMIing me.

The RNG feel from implo has definitely struck me also, with a weirdly timed "S_S could be town I guess". To dip into meta again though, he didn't do that when he rolled scum as I recall, he doled out reads more slowly. I kind of interpret it as him trying to play the low-information phase the way its best to play the low-information phase and have a low threshold for granting some kind of read so that the game develops whereas scum!implo in the past needed to see where the trenches lay to decide the best place to be. Which is why committing to a read on my slot helps his standing but at the same time maybe he knows that's exactly what I want from him I don't think I hid that particularly well

[popsofctown]

I interacted a lil with Elmo the Azn in GD and played a mafia game with an "Elmo" and both these things were very very long ago and a blurred/combined memory sentiment and both vague positive impressions. I searched my own iso to sort out the exact specifics of this during this game.

Giving Elmo a warm welcome seemed like a win/win anyways

[popsofctown]

Playing with a hydra with public identities but a secret hydra key is like worse than a fully secret hydra in terms of funness/desire to play the game/enjoyability and I am kind of irritated about it.
It's kind of a zero sum way to be getting extra enjoyment out of this game.

[popsofctown]

Prodge. Don't have much to say. Drawing a total blank on most of the list.

Ask me questions so I can engage.

I don't think the hydra knows what's going on with their heads right now which is saying something

Which posts made you think that?

Spicy take

It's town indicative to excuse yourself from producing content but then extemporaneously realize you have some content to produce anyway

[Wooper]

that's a very pops vibe, no harm done.

pops if i told you i'm really struggling to get a read on you, think about 3 of your posts are kinda maybe towny, and think amrun is scum, does that help with this dialogue at all?

also on implo: the idea that he's intentionally de facto rng responding to being wagoned by throwing out bizarre boiling hot takes is crossing my mind the more i think about it but I'm not really sure I'll nail his alignment from WIFOMing myself through this. I think he gets more transparent here, not less. are you comfortably null on him? gth when you try to solve this game, are you looking for his buddies or for scum outside of him?

I don't see implo partners rn and am fairly uncomfortable width amrun/homura at a minimum, and think an implo/homu/amrun solve is kinda wonky

my reads might be disproportionately advanced but is there anything in this post which is inspiring you to open your brain to me?

I have stated before that Amrun might be scum who is TMIing me.

The RNG feel from implo has definitely struck me also, with a weirdly timed "S_S could be town I guess". To dip into meta again though, he didn't do that when he rolled scum as I recall, he doled out reads more slowly. I kind of interpret it as him trying to play the low-information phase the way its best to play the low-information phase and have a low threshold for granting some kind of read so that the game develops whereas scum!implo in the past needed to see where the trenches lay to decide the best place to be. Which is why committing to a read on my slot helps his standing but at the same time maybe he knows that's exactly what I want from him I don't think I hid that particularly well

I basically agree on implo, and this makes me want to treat him as town unless he starts to make more sense as scum. my reasons for voting him originally were pretty well "he's playing the game - let's see if he knows he's ott here" and his response was pretty much

"YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT"

which just generally doesn't feel scummy

[Wooper]

Prodge. Don't have much to say. Drawing a total blank on most of the list.

Ask me questions so I can engage.

I don't think the hydra knows what's going on with their heads right now which is saying something

Which posts made you think that?

Spicy take

It's town indicative to excuse yourself from producing content but then extemporaneously realize you have some content to produce anyway

Sure. I agree. If one produces content.

Homura's question @Elmo had like a conspicuous answer itt and does nothing to advance the dialogue in any of their slots. :S it's like, benchmark busywork posting.

[Wooper]

You know what, granted. I feel worse about Amrun than Homura atm i just wanted Homura in the spotlight more (show got better post-episode 3)

VOTE: Amrun

[popsofctown]

VOTE: Wooper

[Wooper]

:shrug:
I got nothin else for you pops
if you're town i kinda need you to start solving the game like fairly urgently please

[Wooper]

for the record i offered to replace into this because this playerlist is a crazy fun challenge to play Purgatory with no matter how i rand - so expect me to keep trying to break through at the cost of my sanity.

[popsofctown]

I think it is really clear that Homura shouldn't/wouldn't expect to get townread for such a tiny contribution. I'm only townreading her for the juxtaposition against saying she's going to wait for a question to engage.

You've asked me to engage with the game and I have posted like a lot of content lately as a response and you've kind of gone "hm I guess I can't townread pops still no content." and I have a lot of trouble townreading that compared to how I'd view a scumread on my content itself