Newbie 1992 | Game Over

[Datisi]

re: mena

ye, i don't feel like i usually do in town games

i figured it would show

and yes i definitely should sleep better

is it because

this isn't a town game for you?

hilarous joke

but this is in fact a town game for me

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

[Menalque]

If it was not your intention, nevermind. I usually have an atypical way of reading things. But it seemed like a threat to me.

why did it seem like a threat ?

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datisi you were in that newbie where i was scum and mena was town and he caught me but i got him lynched anyways, right?

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It looked like:

''as you saw in that game, Menalque caught me but I made him lynched anyway. That is, regardless of whether he was town, I managed to get him lynched. And I can apply the same here, if I want''

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also i'm planning on being somewhat passive

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It seemed like:

''I am planning to play passive in this game, so I'm probably town because as scum, if I wanted to repeat my feat, I would play more aggressively. That is, the fact that I choose passivity is an indication of my alignment, which is town.''

worth noting: skitt got me lynched that game by playing relatively passively

[Menalque]

@dats it's just a tone thing, we'll see if it plays out

sorry if you're ill, that might explain it

you seem a little bit diminished

VOTE: marashu

why do you scumread datisi but vote menalque

because it was lowkey and I thought marashu was also scummy

[Menalque]

re: mena

ye, i don't feel like i usually do in town games

i figured it would show

and yes i definitely should sleep better

is it because

this isn't a town game for you?

hilarous joke

but this is in fact a town game for me

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

should I not be scum reading you for this?

[GeneralWu]

Here he is analyzing GW's messages to get an idea of the authenticity of thought of his response. I think Clidd is trying to slowly build a town group of people he trusts after he tests us in different ways. I would say I have a town lean on him, but I also imagine this is a valid strategy for mafia to try and build the town group themselves, so I'm unsure.

clidd doing that seems more towny than scummy, at least to me.

[Menalque]

wait true
why would you announce that you're going to play passively in a game?
like what advantage does being passive have?

town?

[Datisi]

for that post specifically or for the fact i havent' ~latched onto~ anything?

[Menalque]

generalwu is probably my strongest tr rn

yeah, skitt!town I think

[Menalque]

i just feel kinda lazy and don't want to be expected to carry rn

hey, that's my line

[Maduisha]

Here he is analyzing GW's messages to get an idea of the authenticity of thought of his response. I think Clidd is trying to slowly build a town group of people he trusts after he tests us in different ways. I would say I have a town lean on him, but I also imagine this is a valid strategy for mafia to try and build the town group themselves, so I'm unsure.

clidd doing that seems more towny than scummy, at least to me.

I think it's a towny thing too, but I'm also scared of that exact thought being the thing that makes me lower my guard if he's scum.

[Menalque]

kinda don't think generalwu makes sense as scum other than with skitter

[Menalque]

skitt, maduisha
generalwu, trq
clidd
unhealthykids
maru
dats

[Menalque]

I'm about here

[Datisi]

for that post specifically or for the fact i havent' ~latched onto~ anything?

mind answering me at least?

[clidd]

Im back.

[Maduisha]

kinda don't think generalwu makes sense as scum other than with skitter

I really can't make any association as to what pairs would make sense right now. Mind explaining how you reached that conclusion? That's something I've seen others do in different games, and it always stood out for me, because I feel like the earlier the game is, the hardest associations are to see, so I would like to understand.

[Menalque]

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

should I not be scum reading you for this?

[GeneralWu]

wait most people here are in Europe right
so I'm like the only one in the odd time zone

[Datisi]

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

should I not be scum reading you for this?

i don't know, should you? d'you think i as scum *in this setting* decide to be as passive as possible and do absolutely jackshit? istead of picking something, anything to engage on? as opposed to being town and simply not having strong pings anywhere and not wanting to force a read that isn't there yet?

[Menalque]

kinda don't think generalwu makes sense as scum other than with skitter

I really can't make any association as to what pairs would make sense right now. Mind explaining how you reached that conclusion? That's something I've seen others do in different games, and it always stood out for me, because I feel like the earlier the game is, the hardest associations are to see, so I would like to understand.

there are some things in generalwu that I think are slightly scummy but don't wanna go into for ~*reasons*~ that I'll explain later if needed

skitt having a TR on them could therefore be covering for a buddy who's scum telling because people are generally harder to push when they have someone hard vouching for them, and skitt is more likely to protect a buddy in a newbie than she is to hard bus them imo

so long as skitt is town, I'm willing to trust her read there on top of the townie elements that I see in GW. but just skitt specifically could be protecting him as scum and that makes sense to me as a backup explanation of her not seeing the scummy things

[GeneralWu]

Here he is analyzing GW's messages to get an idea of the authenticity of thought of his response. I think Clidd is trying to slowly build a town group of people he trusts after he tests us in different ways. I would say I have a town lean on him, but I also imagine this is a valid strategy for mafia to try and build the town group themselves, so I'm unsure.

clidd doing that seems more towny than scummy, at least to me.

I think it's a towny thing too, but I'm also scared of that exact thought being the thing that makes me lower my guard if he's scum.

yes it's good to not completely rule out the possibility of someone being scum (unless that person is confirmed town)
but it's also not a good idea to tunnel someone by turning his towny posts into scummy ones because "there's always the possibility of him being mafia"

[Menalque]

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

should I not be scum reading you for this?

i don't know, should you? d'you think i as scum *in this setting* decide to be as passive as possible and do absolutely jackshit? istead of picking something, anything to engage on? as opposed to being town and simply not having strong pings anywhere and not wanting to force a read that isn't there yet?

I mean I think you struggle to engage with the game more when you're scum which is what you're doing here and I think being aware of something that you lack as scum doesn't necessarily make it easier to do it. I know what some of the weaker elements of my scum game are but that hasn't let me magically fix them

I also dk why your tone is off bc I don't think you need to be engaged for that to be different tbh

[team rocket queen]

I see GW ask people if they think the mason claim is legit, but I want to ask you directly. Is this a meme claim, or are you serious?

i was excited and fangirling.

i kinda agree with this, i feel like he's asking a lot of questions but not like doing anything with them
like he's using them to look busy but they're not actually going anywhere

this ^ is mainly what i meant by this:

datisi's style of asking questions in this game seems more about getting townread than gaining information,

because their early questioning regarding the mason thing was weird and i was thinking of voting them

i think marashu was kinda scummy for the way they were viewing my opening because if it was simply a new player thing why would they have an opinion on d1 claims.

a lot of our reads seem similar to me, but my conversation with generalwu was largely non-productive so i get why it was scummy.

[GeneralWu]

so from reading some of menalque's posts I feel like he's towny
since he's actually giving reads and overall his town seems towny.
also he has an attitude to solve the game.

[Datisi]

i don't feel like i have anything to latch onto right now

should I not be scum reading you for this?

i don't know, should you? d'you think i as scum *in this setting* decide to be as passive as possible and do absolutely jackshit? istead of picking something, anything to engage on? as opposed to being town and simply not having strong pings anywhere and not wanting to force a read that isn't there yet?

I mean I think you struggle to engage with the game more when you're scum which is what you're doing here and I think being aware of something that you lack as scum doesn't necessarily make it easier to do it. I know what some of the weaker elements of my scum game are but that hasn't let me magically fix them

I also dk why your tone is off bc I don't think you need to be engaged for that to be different tbh

so instead of struggling to engage
i just decided to *not* engage at all and ask pointless questions without ever following up on them

and i really do
if my head's not in the game my tone suffers as well
because if i don't know *what* to talk about then the *how* goes to down the toilet as well