Mini 2127 - Fairly Special [Game Over]

[momo]

Christ, I just got the oddest pm from the mod

Same...it's because there's a person who sets the flavor. Speaking of which, this is the same person that would have directed the mod to post that Mastina dances and howls under the full moon, trying to indicate that she's a wolf. Because the mod doesn't generate the text, its NAI. What it does tell us is that there's a scum player who is afraid of Mastina's ability to read them who decided to make it seem like she is scum. I'm assuming that the flavor player is scum, because there is no reason for a town player to send that message.

My flavor was something about Mudkip avatars, which is apparently a pokemon.

My questions for y'all.
1. Who on this player list has knowledge about pokemon?
2. Can you all please share the gist of your flavor messages, so we can try and figure out who is telling the mod what to say?
3. @Mastina, who on this list have you successfully scum hunted either recently or consistently?

[Titus]

VC 1.13

momo (4) - mastina, eyestott, Egix96, gobbledygook
EspressoPatronum (2) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus
Titus (2) - Churros, EspressoPatronum
Egix96 (1) - Chronos
gobbledygook (1) - momo
eyestott (1) - alimdia
Chronos (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

I think the mono wagon is totally t v t

[Titus]

Well minus Gobble

[Titus]

My theory on 1.13

Momo is town. Only Gobble is scum voting him. This is to keep "momentum" on that mislynch.
EP is confusing to try and create an alternative mislynch in case momo falls apart.
This leaves RS/BP pisskop as scum off the major wagons. Pisskop keeping his vote useless isn't reassuring. Momo does have a point about RS but RS isn't likely scum with EP in this wagon setup.

[Titus]

*confusing = omgusing

[Titus]

. Can you all please share the gist of your flavor messages, so we can try and figure out who is telling the mod what to say?

Eyestott claimed it

[pisskop]

mine was that 'i just lost the game'

tho who 'i' is and what exactly 'thr game' is is up to some debate.

[pisskop]

I haven't voted because I haven't read..
spiritually im voting mastin

[momo]

Momo does have a point about RS but RS isn't likely scum with EP in this wagon setup.

We can't view the position of RS's votes as alignment indicative if we take certain things into account.
1. When considering the case for RS as scum, we acknowledge that he is naked voting. We also acknowledge that he is unwilling to truly commit to any wagon and unwilling to move the game forward while asking others to move it forward for him. This way, he remains safe without taking any blame.
2. We are assuming that scum is using their daytalk and that their votes are planned to at least a decent degree. I can't imagine a world where RS is town, but his vote on EP could very well be a bus. Think about it, his vote is there, but he hasn't made a case beyond one line. He isn't moving the vote so that its visible to us all there, but he isn't pushing for that wagon in particular. In fact, his end the day comment suggests that he's fine with just about any wagon.

I agree that EP has been scummy this game, but no vote is safer for town than RS. He is almost certainly scum, and should be lynched accordingly.

[eyestott]

mine was that 'i just lost the game'

tho who 'i' is and what exactly 'thr game' is is up to some debate.

Please don’t reveal your exact flavour role.
We don’t know if it’s safe

[eyestott]

none of his posts make any sense, he's trying too hard, suggested the idea of mass claiming, trying to earn town cred by claiming he ended rvs, and falsely accused me of something. I know it's page 3 but if he has done all that this early,

it can only get worse

.

...he must be town, because

scum!Rabid (and scum in general) doesn't start the game balls out like that.

FTFY

Early Day 1 in Rabid’s previous completed town game. I think this is pretty telling. @mastina, do you concur?

[gobbledygook]

My theory on 1.13

Momo is town. Only Gobble is scum voting him. This is to keep "momentum" on that mislynch.
EP is confusing to try and create an alternative mislynch in case momo falls apart.
This leaves RS/BP pisskop as scum off the major wagons. Pisskop keeping his vote useless isn't reassuring. Momo does have a point about RS but RS isn't likely scum with EP in this wagon setup.

It’s always the people closest to me that death tunnel me and I don’t understand why.

[gobbledygook]

VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer

I could also do Egix I think.

[mastina]

3. @Mastina, who on this list have you successfully scum hunted either recently or consistently?

The Turkey slot, maaaaaaaybe Espresso (but I would say probably no to be honest), Titus, alimidia (admittedly small sample size butstill), traditionally-eyestott (but since he's been gone from the site for years, you can throw that out the window), Egix, Adorable (admittedly small sample size butstill), and pisskop. All of them I have had pretty good reads on.

Mastina what's your Titus read right now.

I meant to post a readslist yesterday but forgot to follow through on it--locktown of locktown tier now, up there with eyestott and Turkey.

This, purely off of one factor.

Titus's push on pisskop is not a bus.
pisskop is 100% completely and totally absolutely scum.

Ergo, Titus is town.

So you think Titus is right about BP+EP or just BP (pisskop)?

She's 100% right about BP/pisskop.

I currently don't think she's right about EP, but it's not like EP is locktown. EP is still very much, null, and in the (very, very small) poe pool (of four, maaaaaaaayyybe five, players). So she

could

be right about both. I don't think she is right now, but I also acknowledge there's a rather significant chance she could be.

The only path forward today is to VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer.

So I actually like momo's case on Rabid because I was already scumreading the slot and these are good reasons for Rabid to be scum.

I don't think it makes momo any more likely to be town, I think the most likely case is that momo is bussing a scumbuddy both because he sees his slot is in a bad spot, he sees his scumbuddy isn't being very town, and he thinks the bus will help, and because to my memory of momo (which is, admittedly, rusty) I remember him being incredibly bus-happy as scum.

But regardless of his alignment, I'll thank him for the good case on Rabid and regardless of his alignment I might actually sheep it. (Because if he's scum, he's probably bussing; if he's town, he's probably right.)

Basically, there's three slots I will vote today:
pisskop, Rabid, or momo.
The momo wagon looks like its momentum is fading, so that means we can afford to let momo live through today, which leaves pisskop or Rabid.

pisskop is the stronger scumread, but this has momentum:
VOTE: Rabid.

[mastina]

Turkey + eyestott + Titus

Chronos + Churros + alimidia

Egix96


EspressoPatronum + Sujimichi




Rabid Schnauzer
Adorable/momo
BP/pisskop


Locktown, strong town, weak town, null, then scumreads.

[eyestott]

Let’s give rabid a taste of his own medicine

[eyestott]

VOTE: Rabid Doggy

[pisskop]

im home from work

[gobbledygook]

Vote the dog, pk

[pisskop]

ill read first, tyvm

[gobbledygook]

Just as long as you vote the dog

[pisskop]

New Astartes Video came out tonight.

[Titus]

VOTE: Rabid

*watches mastina and EP closely*

[TemporalLich]

VC 1.14

Rabid Schnauzer (5) - momo, gobbledygook, mastina, eyestott, Titus [L-2]

Titus (2) - Churros, EspressoPatronum
EspressoPatronum (1) - Rabid Schnauzer
momo (1) - Egix96
Egix96 (1) - Chronos
eyestott (1) - alimdia
Chronos (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

[alimdia]

I'm still here but this day is lasting forever. Personally I can't do much until there's been some flips.

Either way, here are my thoughts post reading the game (which has been very hard to do because this site just stops working every 10 minutes).

If I get lynched today (and I'll flip town), I'm a little concerned at how many people seem to be scum-reading

Titus

, when she is ridiculously town. Read her first few posts guys. Titus chooses not to RVS, sees BP as real scum, and basically tunnels for the rest of the game. I don't think scum!Titus would do something like that. It's the direct opposite of blending in and isn't at all the kind of thing I would expect from scum.

Most obvious scum read is Rabid Schnauzer. I looked at their most recent completed game, Mini Normal 2122 (in which they were town), and their isos do not read anywhere near the same. I could make my case based on the naked votes (a newish scum player could think they are being smart by pulling the WIFOM obiously scum wouldn't be that lazy), the fact that the tone of their posts does not seem genuine at all (especially when compared to the other game), or the fact that they say "I haven't done a damn thing...Doubt you have a read on me" indicating that the inactivity to prevent a lynch is intentional. EVEN MORE SCUMMIER than that, is the obv!scum post #568. They want the day to end, but won't do anything to move it forward. This pushes the leading wagon (the one currently on me) forward, gives scum a mislynch, but when I flip town, they have to shoulder exactly none of the blame themselves.

The only path forward today is to VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer.

you know i've seen like so many town ppl like rabid who basically do nothing but are town.
I like how you basically say Titus's actions are anti town, but because of that he is town, but Rabid on the other hand, being anti town means he is scum. I'm fine with him being a deadline lynch but there are actual people that are sus and we get connections off the flip, town or scum.

Christ, I just got the oddest pm from the mod

Same...it's because there's a person who sets the flavor. Speaking of which, this is the same person that would have directed the mod to post that Mastina dances and howls under the full moon, trying to indicate that she's a wolf. Because the mod doesn't generate the text, its NAI. What it does tell us is that there's a scum player who is afraid of Mastina's ability to read them who decided to make it seem like she is scum. I'm assuming that the flavor player is scum, because there is no reason for a town player to send that message.

My flavor was something about Mudkip avatars, which is apparently a pokemon.

My questions for y'all.
1. Who on this player list has knowledge about pokemon?
2. Can you all please share the gist of your flavor messages, so we can try and figure out who is telling the mod what to say?
3. @Mastina, who on this list have you successfully scum hunted either recently or consistently?

VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer

I could also do Egix I think.

eyescot claimed flavourer. I'm not sure if the wolf message is from eyescott though? @Eyescott can you explain this?

3. @Mastina, who on this list have you successfully scum hunted either recently or consistently?

The Turkey slot, maaaaaaaybe Espresso (but I would say probably no to be honest), Titus, alimidia (admittedly small sample size butstill), traditionally-eyestott (but since he's been gone from the site for years, you can throw that out the window), Egix, Adorable (admittedly small sample size butstill), and pisskop. All of them I have had pretty good reads on.

Mastina what's your Titus read right now.

I meant to post a readslist yesterday but forgot to follow through on it--locktown of locktown tier now, up there with eyestott and Turkey.

This, purely off of one factor.

Titus's push on pisskop is not a bus.
pisskop is 100% completely and totally absolutely scum.

Ergo, Titus is town.

So you think Titus is right about BP+EP or just BP (pisskop)?

She's 100% right about BP/pisskop.

I currently don't think she's right about EP, but it's not like EP is locktown. EP is still very much, null, and in the (very, very small) poe pool (of four, maaaaaaaayyybe five, players). So she

could

be right about both. I don't think she is right now, but I also acknowledge there's a rather significant chance she could be.

The only path forward today is to VOTE: Rabid Schnauzer.

So I actually like momo's case on Rabid because I was already scumreading the slot and these are good reasons for Rabid to be scum.

I don't think it makes momo any more likely to be town, I think the most likely case is that momo is bussing a scumbuddy both because he sees his slot is in a bad spot, he sees his scumbuddy isn't being very town, and he thinks the bus will help, and because to my memory of momo (which is, admittedly, rusty) I remember him being incredibly bus-happy as scum.

But regardless of his alignment, I'll thank him for the good case on Rabid and regardless of his alignment I might actually sheep it. (Because if he's scum, he's probably bussing; if he's town, he's probably right.)

Basically, there's three slots I will vote today:
pisskop, Rabid, or momo.
The momo wagon looks like its momentum is fading, so that means we can afford to let momo live through today, which leaves pisskop or Rabid.

pisskop is the stronger scumread, but this has momentum:
VOTE: Rabid.

Momentum is BS. if you vote egix that has momentum too

VOTE: Rabid Doggy

egix

VOTE: Rabid

*watches mastina and EP closely*

egix

VOTE: Egix