Mini Normal 2130: Mafia From Home [Game Over]

[Anotora]

@Mod:

Is Zantetsu's vote on Egix96 right now, or on me?

[Firebringer]

@Mod:

Is Zantetsu's vote on Egix96 right now, or on me?

Fixed.

Please continue to let me know if you see any issues with vote counts.

[Firebringer]

I'm trying so hard to be nice. But man the gulf between how I would run a game if I modded it and the modding I get in my games is just ... huge. Nearly every time.

If you want a fantastic mod, try Cheetory6. I would literally pay for modding of that quality. No joke.

You are absolutely right!

So after conferring with my good friend Cheetory6. He has agreed to be the backup mod for this game!!!!

Please send a check to Cheetory6 for his services at his address:

1234 Gorkington Lane
Somewhere Canada

[profii]

VOTE: profii
Stop randing scum in my games!

I know this is gamberlers fallacy but exactly... I'm not

[profii]

You mean you now think Mage is Town?

As I said, it's too early to really form definitive reads, he seems like he is not bothered by the pressure of my vote - which was what I was looking at.

If anything you might say as a new player who may panic as scum under pressure, that's probably not happening like I thought it might

[Egix96]

VOTE: profii
Stop randing scum in my games!

I know this is gamberlers fallacy but exactly... I'm not

Well you haven't yet given me much of a reason to believe that.

[profii]

VOTE: profii
Stop randing scum in my games!

I know this is gamberlers fallacy but exactly... I'm not

Well you haven't yet given me much of a reason to believe that.

Out of interest who has given you much of a reason to believe they are 1 alignment or the other

Because you can apply that to probably a majority of the slots

Yet you are getting caught up in this wagon forming? Why is that

[Saudade]

I feel there's been some SvS interactions in the last posts but I can't pinpoint who exactly yet, there's too many "scummy" posts.

I don't feel like the last page or so was very natural. I think other than Norwe, I slightly like Zantetsu. Not really a town read but I'm ok with his posts.

are you informed scum

[Luca Blight]

We’re currently on page 8. For comparison, check Profii’s play from page 8 of his Town game and see the monumental difference:

Spoiler:

I'd like to see those 5 players take a stance on Luca vs Garmr and I will accept any of SvS, SvT, TvT as long as it comes with a rationale

I don't know for sure, like i said already. It could be a SvT scenario. It's just that i feel more confident going against Kraeg right how. His posts and reason for voting me just doesn't feel right.

so you want me to follow you onto voting Kraeg because it "just doesn't feel right"

you can't say anything about the Luca vs Garmr bit other than it's probably TvT but could be SvT

poor show tbh

VOTE: Norwegianboy

Vote Garmr

I think the PR discussion is scummy. Even if he did it in a game where he's town, that doesn't prove the he's town in this game. It's not like we are in point where PRs have flipped and there is a necessity to discuss scenarios about PRs. The way he tried to identify me as a PR is scummy. A PR discussion would most likely come from scum. Why? because they're the one who's going to look for potential PRs for their nightkill so there's definitely a tendency for scum to open PR discussions. Town would most likely focus on finding scum especially on D1.

Just because I just voted Norge, dont consider yourself off the hook, I asked a specific group of people, which included you, to provide their thoughts on the Luca vs Garmr argument.

Whilst you have said Garmr is more likely to be scum, you've cited the reason that he mentioned PRs but not mentioned anything about Luca.

Give me more man!

How do you feel about Luca?

Is your read of Kraeg changed?

I feel like I was focused trying to find a lead that I just built something on Luca solely based on just trying to find a lead, so looking back I don't think my point was very convincing.

As for Kraeg, the time you posted I still had a slight scum lean on him. After his latest posts, though, I feel like they're far too dynamic with their thoughts/posting and I have an even larger scum lean on him now. Kraeg tells Norwegian to 'forgot about his vote on him because it's just an RVS thing' but his posts earlier imply that he was much more serious about this than he's stating now. Also, I feel like the move to Garmr is far too sudden and invited by the fact that others started the Garmr wagon, but honestly that could be said for multiple players here, I guess.

I haven't really delved into the possibility of a Garmr + Kraeg scum team, on the surface from what I remember it looks a bit unlikely but not impossible.

For the time being I'll go back to VOTE: Kraeg as I feel more confident with a push on him than Garmr with what we have now.

why have you gone from saying Garmr was possibly caught scum to just forgetting about it and voting someone else?

Though I kind of see your logic on Kraeg, I'd be keen to hear more about Garmr and your caught scum comment - also if you have any thoughts on the 1v1 ?

@Profii
Also i never said i wanted you to follow my vote. Which you seem to suggest in post 188.
Not sure why you thought that.

You vote someone because you want to lynch someone

You need a majority to lynch someone

So if you logically want to lynch someone you need people to follow

So youd need me plus others to follow your reasons

But if that's wrong you are voting for someone you dont want to lynch, which is stupid and not the point of the game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11224085

[Saudade]

this is the fewest posts I've made in a game over a period of time ever

[Saudade]

I've read the last 3 pages and I haven't really caught any fish yet
oh well

[Saudade]

whats the reasoning behind the profii wagon again?

[Egix96]

VOTE: profii
Stop randing scum in my games!

I know this is gamberlers fallacy but exactly... I'm not

Well you haven't yet given me much of a reason to believe that.

Out of interest who has given you much of a reason to believe they are 1 alignment or the other

Because you can apply that to probably a majority of the slots

Yet you are getting caught up in this wagon forming? Why is that

Nbee and Luca perhaps, even if they are the top two posters?

The thing is, if I were voting purely on the basis of who I'm finding the most suspicious, I would be voting Anotora, but I'm voting you in an effort to actually progress the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

whats the reasoning behind the profii wagon again?

Can you learn to read?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Saudade
Or are you saying you believe he is town?

[UnaBombaH]

I think my best guess for a scumpost would be 125.
If it's a townpost however, I'd love to hear a better version of it where Churros tried to pinpoint some of the posts they feel could be SvS.

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: Churros

[UnaBombaH]

Oh, someone else asked for it already.
And they haven't clarified yet, so I guess my vote is still fine there.

We thinking scum!profii apparently?

[profii]

VOTE: profii
Stop randing scum in my games!

I know this is gamberlers fallacy but exactly... I'm not

Well you haven't yet given me much of a reason to believe that.

Out of interest who has given you much of a reason to believe they are 1 alignment or the other

Because you can apply that to probably a majority of the slots

Yet you are getting caught up in this wagon forming? Why is that

Nbee and Luca perhaps, even if they are the top two posters?

The thing is, if I were voting purely on the basis of who I'm finding the most suspicious, I would be voting Anotora, but I'm voting you in an effort to actually progress the game.

How can you even contemplate Luca when you are following him on the profii wagon which he created ?

This sounds to me like someone who is trying to force reasons to have their vote wherever it suits

When I looked at my wagon I thought someone here is scum surely

I think luca believes his case because hes done it before
I think norgey boy could go either way, I've never noticed him shit post as much but I have seen him call things shady a lot
Una was RVS so it doesnt matter
Your vote is poor in comparison though

VOTE: Egix

[profii]

Oh and anotora- at least he is getting with the case that luca has made. I can kinda take that.

I really object to that egix post though.

[profii]

We’re currently on page 8. For comparison, check Profii’s play from page 8 of his Town game and see the monumental difference:

Spoiler:

I'd like to see those 5 players take a stance on Luca vs Garmr and I will accept any of SvS, SvT, TvT as long as it comes with a rationale

I don't know for sure, like i said already. It could be a SvT scenario. It's just that i feel more confident going against Kraeg right how. His posts and reason for voting me just doesn't feel right.

so you want me to follow you onto voting Kraeg because it "just doesn't feel right"

you can't say anything about the Luca vs Garmr bit other than it's probably TvT but could be SvT

poor show tbh

VOTE: Norwegianboy

Vote Garmr

I think the PR discussion is scummy. Even if he did it in a game where he's town, that doesn't prove the he's town in this game. It's not like we are in point where PRs have flipped and there is a necessity to discuss scenarios about PRs. The way he tried to identify me as a PR is scummy. A PR discussion would most likely come from scum. Why? because they're the one who's going to look for potential PRs for their nightkill so there's definitely a tendency for scum to open PR discussions. Town would most likely focus on finding scum especially on D1.

Just because I just voted Norge, dont consider yourself off the hook, I asked a specific group of people, which included you, to provide their thoughts on the Luca vs Garmr argument.

Whilst you have said Garmr is more likely to be scum, you've cited the reason that he mentioned PRs but not mentioned anything about Luca.

Give me more man!

How do you feel about Luca?

Is your read of Kraeg changed?

I feel like I was focused trying to find a lead that I just built something on Luca solely based on just trying to find a lead, so looking back I don't think my point was very convincing.

As for Kraeg, the time you posted I still had a slight scum lean on him. After his latest posts, though, I feel like they're far too dynamic with their thoughts/posting and I have an even larger scum lean on him now. Kraeg tells Norwegian to 'forgot about his vote on him because it's just an RVS thing' but his posts earlier imply that he was much more serious about this than he's stating now. Also, I feel like the move to Garmr is far too sudden and invited by the fact that others started the Garmr wagon, but honestly that could be said for multiple players here, I guess.

I haven't really delved into the possibility of a Garmr + Kraeg scum team, on the surface from what I remember it looks a bit unlikely but not impossible.

For the time being I'll go back to VOTE: Kraeg as I feel more confident with a push on him than Garmr with what we have now.

why have you gone from saying Garmr was possibly caught scum to just forgetting about it and voting someone else?

Though I kind of see your logic on Kraeg, I'd be keen to hear more about Garmr and your caught scum comment - also if you have any thoughts on the 1v1 ?

@Profii
Also i never said i wanted you to follow my vote. Which you seem to suggest in post 188.
Not sure why you thought that.

You vote someone because you want to lynch someone

You need a majority to lynch someone

So if you logically want to lynch someone you need people to follow

So youd need me plus others to follow your reasons

But if that's wrong you are voting for someone you dont want to lynch, which is stupid and not the point of the game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11224085

Have you checked any of my town, non mason games to see how I go by page 8? Assume not

[Saudade]

whats the reasoning behind the profii wagon again?

Can you learn to read?

Can you not answer my question with two seperate questions?

[Saudade]

i wasnt saying either, i just suppose different voters have different reasons and id love to hear them

[NorwegianboyEE]

i wasnt saying either, i just suppose different voters have different reasons and id love to hear them

Well it sounded like you just had no clue what was going on.

[Riabi]

whats the reasoning behind the profii wagon again?

Can you learn to read?

Can you not answer my question with two seperate questions?

What's more scummy in your mind? Answering questions with more questions? Or not answering them at all?