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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:38 am

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Profii notes

In short, I'm pretty convinced by Luca's decimation of Proffi. His early posts were very friendly and generous on the town-reads. Voted for me because my join date (2007) indicated I was new. No hint of any suspicion of anyone until the heat got turned up - every other post had been defensive and trying to avert suspicion. From post 150, appears he has basically given up, which seems really premature. If he is scum, certain he is being bussed hard, otherwise he'd have a bit more fight.

I took the bait in proffi's post 195 and read a game in which he was town (non-mason) - Mini Normal 2107.
Much more engaged in scumhunting from the outset, obviously thinking about behaviour of other players, no hesitation in throwing shade, and trying to join the dots between everybody. Conspicuous pro-town behaviour. Also interesting is a bit later in game, when he gets some heat (like here) - he eventually does become defensive like here, but it isn't immediate and instinctive, and he resists for a while because (as he explains) he doesn't want to distract from his own genuine scumhunting by just getting into a debate with people who suspect him.

Also I have to share this from Proffi in Mini Normal 2121:
"I dont like when people sit on day 1 and complain that they cant find anything scummy as it's usually scum being incapable of faking a read." :lol:
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:42 am

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I applaud the scum making this happen to be fair.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:45 am

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Also did a quick re-read and some notes on
Anotora
and
Unabomba
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In post 66, Anotora wrote:Can we chill with the claims for now? Half the scum's kill list has perhaps been established now for no real reason or benefit.
As bad as that post is, (and as others have noted, it is BAD), nothing else about Anotora says anything other than town to me so far. And if Profii is scum, I'd be even happier with Anotora-town as I don't think she would want to be seen 'pocketing' her buddy so conspicuously on page 1. :cop:

Unabomba - Not the most engaged so far, but very apologetic about that. Made a good observation about Churros, and still voting there. Keen to emphasise how talented he is, and also Luca is "terrifyingly good". Key thing is, I don't understand why he's so disinterested in the fact Proffi is at L-2, when he claims to know proffi better than anybody, so surely has a view?

In post 99, you said you were particularly good at reading Profii, Saudade and Luca. (As 72offsuit asked you already) Can you please give your thoughts on each so far?

Particularly the first 2, as Profii has the biggest wagon, and I have no earthly idea with Saudade.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:48 am

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For clarity, I'm happy with a Proffi lynch today, but no rush on that. :cool:
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:56 am

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In post 201, profii wrote:I applaud the scum making this happen to be fair.
Yet you do nothing to stop it other than complain and direct our attention to Egix, one of the blandest wagons in history.
Yours is much more saucy and i have high doubts of why we should be voting him instead of you.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:00 am

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In post 200, Battle Mage wrote:
Profii notes

In short, I'm pretty convinced by Luca's decimation of Proffi. His early posts were very friendly and generous on the town-reads. Voted for me because my join date (2007) indicated I was new. No hint of any suspicion of anyone until the heat got turned up - every other post had been defensive and trying to avert suspicion. From post 150, appears he has basically given up, which seems really premature. If he is scum, certain he is being bussed hard, otherwise he'd have a bit more fight.

I took the bait in proffi's post 195 and read a game in which he was town (non-mason) - Mini Normal 2107.
Much more engaged in scumhunting from the outset, obviously thinking about behaviour of other players, no hesitation in throwing shade, and trying to join the dots between everybody. Conspicuous pro-town behaviour. Also interesting is a bit later in game, when he gets some heat (like here) - he eventually does become defensive like here, but it isn't immediate and instinctive, and he resists for a while because (as he explains) he doesn't want to distract from his own genuine scumhunting by just getting into a debate with people who suspect him.

Also I have to share this from Proffi in Mini Normal 2121:
"I dont like when people sit on day 1 and complain that they cant find anything scummy as it's usually scum being incapable of faking a read." :lol:
Yeah, this mounting argument against Proffi is pretty damn compelling in my mind, and scanning through the game Mage mentioned here... I have to agree, this doesn't look like the same person.

UNVOTE: Saudade Not because my read has changed here, I still think he should be lynched. But, with all the evidence against Profii, I feel like the right move is to
VOTE: Profii
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:15 am

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Ok that's -1 I think, Proffi now would be a good time to claim!
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:19 am

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In post 201, profii wrote:I applaud the scum making this happen to be fair.
VOTE: Riabi

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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:40 am

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I'm a VT

Make sure you lynch someone on this wagon tomorrow. Ta
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:42 am

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I'd guess Egix, Norway, Luca, in that order until you hit scum
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 209, profii wrote:I'd guess Egix, Norway, Luca, in that order until you hit scum
Not Riabi? I thought you were pretty happy with the Norway and Luca votes?

I assume VT is vanilla town and not Vig/tracker right?
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:57 am

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He’s just trying to give away as little info as possible as he’s obviously getting lynched.

I highly doubt he will flip Town.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:25 am

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In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:Ok that's -1 I think, Proffi now would be a good time to claim!
Count again, I would have never voted to make him -1
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:26 am

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P edit: Better said, I wouldn't have voted at that time to make him L-1, by my count, he was L-3.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 211, Luca Blight wrote:He’s just trying to give away as little info as possible as he’s obviously getting lynched.

I highly doubt he will flip Town.
You are going to have egg on your face.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:51 am

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In post 214, profii wrote:
In post 211, Luca Blight wrote:He’s just trying to give away as little info as possible as he’s obviously getting lynched.

I highly doubt he will flip Town.
You are going to have egg on your face.
Profii has now had Luca as town, then scum, but now he’s suggesting he is town again.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:56 am

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In post 215, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 214, profii wrote:
In post 211, Luca Blight wrote:He’s just trying to give away as little info as possible as he’s obviously getting lynched.

I highly doubt he will flip Town.
You are going to have egg on your face.
Profii has now had Luca as town, then scum, but now he’s suggesting he is town again.
I'm not sure how you take that as me suggesting he is town.

When I flip, tomorrow luca is going to have to defend this to you all.

Sure if he is scum he will be secretly happy that he got rid of me

But as far as this thread is concerned he will have an issue
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:37 am

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In post 212, Riabi wrote:
In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:Ok that's -1 I think, Proffi now would be a good time to claim!
Count again, I would have never voted to make him -1
That'd be too conspicuous right? :giggle:

Speaking of conspicuous, haven't heard from Zantetsu in a while! Zantetsu - what do you think of Proffi and his bandwagon?
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:10 am

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In post 217, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 212, Riabi wrote:
In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:Ok that's -1 I think, Proffi now would be a good time to claim!
Count again, I would have never voted to make him -1
That'd be too conspicuous right? :giggle:
More like, it's too early in the day/game for that.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:15 pm

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Don't forget to send me money yall.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:22 pm

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In post 205, Riabi wrote:
In post 200, Battle Mage wrote:
Profii notes

In short, I'm pretty convinced by Luca's decimation of Proffi. His early posts were very friendly and generous on the town-reads. Voted for me because my join date (2007) indicated I was new. No hint of any suspicion of anyone until the heat got turned up - every other post had been defensive and trying to avert suspicion. From post 150, appears he has basically given up, which seems really premature. If he is scum, certain he is being bussed hard, otherwise he'd have a bit more fight.

I took the bait in proffi's post 195 and read a game in which he was town (non-mason) - Mini Normal 2107.
Much more engaged in scumhunting from the outset, obviously thinking about behaviour of other players, no hesitation in throwing shade, and trying to join the dots between everybody. Conspicuous pro-town behaviour. Also interesting is a bit later in game, when he gets some heat (like here) - he eventually does become defensive like here, but it isn't immediate and instinctive, and he resists for a while because (as he explains) he doesn't want to distract from his own genuine scumhunting by just getting into a debate with people who suspect him.

Also I have to share this from Proffi in Mini Normal 2121:
"I dont like when people sit on day 1 and complain that they cant find anything scummy as it's usually scum being incapable of faking a read." :lol:
Yeah, this mounting argument against Proffi is pretty damn compelling in my mind, and scanning through the game Mage mentioned here... I have to agree, this doesn't look like the same person.

UNVOTE: Saudade Not because my read has changed here, I still think he should be lynched. But, with all the evidence against Profii, I feel like the right move is to
VOTE: Profii
So me and profii are partners
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:24 pm

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Hmmmmmmm such confidence by page 10
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:32 pm

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In post 220, Saudade wrote:
In post 205, Riabi wrote:
In post 200, Battle Mage wrote:
Profii notes

In short, I'm pretty convinced by Luca's decimation of Proffi. His early posts were very friendly and generous on the town-reads. Voted for me because my join date (2007) indicated I was new. No hint of any suspicion of anyone until the heat got turned up - every other post had been defensive and trying to avert suspicion. From post 150, appears he has basically given up, which seems really premature. If he is scum, certain he is being bussed hard, otherwise he'd have a bit more fight.

I took the bait in proffi's post 195 and read a game in which he was town (non-mason) - Mini Normal 2107.
Much more engaged in scumhunting from the outset, obviously thinking about behaviour of other players, no hesitation in throwing shade, and trying to join the dots between everybody. Conspicuous pro-town behaviour. Also interesting is a bit later in game, when he gets some heat (like here) - he eventually does become defensive like here, but it isn't immediate and instinctive, and he resists for a while because (as he explains) he doesn't want to distract from his own genuine scumhunting by just getting into a debate with people who suspect him.

Also I have to share this from Proffi in Mini Normal 2121:
"I dont like when people sit on day 1 and complain that they cant find anything scummy as it's usually scum being incapable of faking a read." :lol:
Yeah, this mounting argument against Proffi is pretty damn compelling in my mind, and scanning through the game Mage mentioned here... I have to agree, this doesn't look like the same person.

UNVOTE: Saudade Not because my read has changed here, I still think he should be lynched. But, with all the evidence against Profii, I feel like the right move is to
VOTE: Profii
So me and profii are partners
I don't believe I ever said that... in fact, I'm certain I didn't. If you'd actually read what I'd said, you'd know that I think you're deadweight and if the case against Profii wasn't as solid as it was, I'd still be pushing to lynch your ass. This shitpost from you doesn't change my mind in the least.
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:52 pm

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Also, I think it should be pointed out that when he feels like making assumptions about my thinking, Saudade has no problem responding to me. When I ask him a direct question though?.....

Nothing....
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:59 pm

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Flavor: Cheetory6 has a special home training session scheduled tomorrow for you all. Attendance is mandatory. Please tip him.

Vote Count 1.03

Anotora (1): Zantetsu,
Battle Mage(1): Churros,
UnaBombah (1): 72offsuit
proffi (5): Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE, Anotora, Egix96, Riabi
Riabi (1): Looker
Zantetsu (1): Battle Mage
Churros (1): UnaBOmbah,
Egix (1): proffii

Not Voting (1): Saudade


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