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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 395, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 394, Battle Mage wrote:Less than 1 day.
Oh wow people's reads change in mafia?
Seriously can you stop scumreading trivial shit and actually get your head in the game?
It was a joke - you need to chill out. :eek:

What are you going to do if I actually vote for you!?
In post 396, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I guess to "prove you wrong" i was supposed to keep my same vote on a wagon that would never get enough votes to actually become a lynch? Yeah that's real smart.
Nah, probably the best move would have not been to say "I'm never moving off this wagon" when you've been all over the place so far this game. It was too predictable (as I showed!) :giggle:
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:This is an awful interaction.
Yeah i actually agree that was a really stupid thing of me to say in hindsight, i was just curious why he would defend Una to this extent.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:17 am

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I re read

I cant find what I was remembering about battle mage so I'm going to forget about it

I skimmed through the ISOs of people voting for me...

VOTE: anotora

Like I can get why people voted for me for "not scum hunting"
I then posted a theory about the way Una, which seemed tinfoil hat but it was driven by the fact that a vote on me was quite natural at the time, yet Una said no no no for no apparent reason

That for some reason killed the wagon, with people saying "yeah you have a point" (personally I'm surprised my theory carried so much traction given I expected to die)

But generally looking at how my wagon came and went, anotora stands out as not fitting in because they dont reference this narrative which feels unnatural

Battle mage is still up there because they are already trying to work out scum 2 after I flip. I'm putting this down to tunneled townie because the scum case on me was fair given my lack of scum hunting

But in fact I've just talked myself out of BM scum... I was going to say they were lining up my lynch and then the next lynch, but that wont work because when I flip the whole narrative will change to "oh we really thought profii was scum"

And I'm not seeing stuff from BM like "if we lynch profii, we should lynch X, but if I'm wrong lynch Y" (I.e. a plan for my town flip)



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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:18 am

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In post 400, Battle Mage wrote:It was a joke - you need to chill out.

What are you going to do if I actually vote for you!?
You are a joke.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:24 am

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In post 401, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:This is an awful interaction.
Yeah i actually agree that was a really stupid thing of me to say in hindsight, i was just curious why he would defend Una to this extent.
Not a trick question: Why do you believe him? :wink:
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:28 am

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In post 404, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 401, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:This is an awful interaction.
Yeah i actually agree that was a really stupid thing of me to say in hindsight, i was just curious why he would defend Una to this extent.
Not a trick question: Why do you believe him? :wink:
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 402, profii wrote:I re read

I cant find what I was remembering about battle mage so I'm going to forget about it
I think you remembered I was trying to lynch you. <3
In post 402, profii wrote: I skimmed through the ISOs of people voting for me...

VOTE: anotora

Like I can get why people voted for me for "not scum hunting"
I then posted a theory about the way Una, which seemed tinfoil hat but it was driven by the fact that a vote on me was quite natural at the time, yet Una said no no no for no apparent reason

That for some reason killed the wagon, with people saying "yeah you have a point" (personally I'm surprised my theory carried so much traction given I expected to die)
This is a good observation. In particular, Norweg really bought into your theory - do you agree with me that this was suspicious?

But generally looking at how my wagon came and went, anotora stands out as not fitting in because they dont reference this narrative which feels unnatural
In post 402, profii wrote: Battle mage is still up there because they are already trying to work out scum 2 after I flip. I'm putting this down to tunneled townie because the scum case on me was fair given my lack of scum hunting

But in fact I've just talked myself out of BM scum... I was going to say they were lining up my lynch and then the next lynch, but that wont work because when I flip the whole narrative will change to "oh we really thought profii was scum"

And I'm not seeing stuff from BM like "if we lynch profii, we should lynch X, but if I'm wrong lynch Y" (I.e. a plan for my town flip)



Ehhh
This is also a fair observation - I'm all-in on you being scum!! :lol:
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:35 am

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In post 405, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 404, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 401, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:This is an awful interaction.
Yeah i actually agree that was a really stupid thing of me to say in hindsight, i was just curious why he would defend Una to this extent.
Not a trick question: Why do you believe him? :wink:
Ah, so you do have a sense of humour! :wink:

But I do want a serious answer please.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:54 am

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Yeah it was suspicious, it was like

Votes, votes, votes
You're not scum hunting!
Erm this guy might be scum.
Ok you're not scum bye!


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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:03 am

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In post 385, Luca Blight wrote:Any thoughts on my points against Churros?
I agree with all of them but with the caveat that Churros post count has been low and I wouldn't lynch just based on what he's done so far.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 379, UnaBombaH wrote:I believe there's a chance they are scum who see an opportunity to save me for later as an easy mislynch.
I'm working on the theory that you soon won't be mislynchable. But what you said here is starting to shake the foundation of my theory. And I'm not OMGUSing here, I'm talking not about the fact that you think I would save you for an easy mislynch, it's that you think an easy mislynch of you will be possible.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:11 am

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In post 378, Zantetsu wrote:Looker I don't understand post .

"Fair. So I'm guessing everyone thinks he's town as of right now. We'll see how"

So you are saying you think Riabi is scum and none of us realize it yet?

"@Riabi: No; you're not right. I feel that you're a weak player and will soon be an easy target. I was just testing the waters for bloodlust."

But now directly to Riabi you are saying you think he's town? Because why would scum 'bloodlust' after another scum player? Or are you saying you are testing the waters for town bloodlust? In which case what does that even accomplish?
I'm setting boundaries/establishing stances. It's also Schrödinger's cat - if he's scum, I find it suspicious that no one's voted him despite openly criticizing/insulting his intelligence/play; however, if he's town, I want to make any agenda shifts more obvious when he becomes mislynch bait, since people have been openly criticizing/insulting his intelligence/play.

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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:16 am

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In post 394, Battle Mage wrote:Although in the nicest possible way, I'd be keen to know if those who have played with Norweg before have seen him react this way under scrutiny as scum, town or both?
Are you looking just for opinions or for links to games?
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:19 am

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In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:I agree there is at least 1 scum in that trio, although think we'll have a lot more clarity once Proffi is lynched.
What kind of clarity do you expect to get from a profii lynch about whether or not Norwegian and I are scumbuddies?
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:20 am

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In post 342, Riabi wrote:
In post 341, Saudade wrote:Read into anotora boys, scum has already been caught
Are you saying you think Anotora is scum? Or are you saying you think he's found scum and is pointing it out in his posts?
In post 412, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 394, Battle Mage wrote:Although in the nicest possible way, I'd be keen to know if those who have played with Norweg before have seen him react this way under scrutiny as scum, town or both?
Are you looking just for opinions or for links to games?
opinions would work!
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 413, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:I agree there is at least 1 scum in that trio, although think we'll have a lot more clarity once Proffi is lynched.
What kind of clarity do you expect to get from a profii lynch about whether or not Norwegian and I are scumbuddies?
Well, if Proffi is scum, Norweg will be top of the list tomorrow. And if Norweg is scum, you are top of the list on Day 3. I've got it all mapped out. :cool:
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:26 am

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In post 402, profii wrote:I then posted a theory about the way Una, which seemed tinfoil hat but it was driven by the fact that a vote on me was quite natural at the time, yet Una said no no no for no apparent reason
You really think there is NO reason that Una wouldn't vote you?
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 410, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 379, UnaBombaH wrote:I believe there's a chance they are
scum who see an opportunity to save me for later as an easy mislynch
.
I'm working on the theory that you soon won't be mislynchable. But what you said here is starting to shake the foundation of my theory. And I'm not OMGUSing here, I'm talking not about the fact that
you think I would save you for an easy mislynch
, it's that you think an easy mislynch of you will be possible.
If you were town, I think rather than post stuff like this, you would be questioning Norweg (as I am) about his reaction to your flirting. :wink:

Is the bold a freudian slip? :shifty:

If you're going to persist in not-so-subtly trying to expose other players roles anyway, I would think you should:

A. Press Norweg to answer whether he bought your hints about game mechanics, and if so, why. (before explaining your reasoning).
B. Explain your reasoning.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:31 am

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Zantetsu can you just say why you don't believe Una shouldn't be the lynch? Because i feel like this is going nowhere.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 415, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 413, Zantetsu wrote:
In post 398, Battle Mage wrote:I agree there is at least 1 scum in that trio, although think we'll have a lot more clarity once Proffi is lynched.
What kind of clarity do you expect to get from a profii lynch about whether or not Norwegian and I are scumbuddies?
Well, if Proffi is scum, Norweg will be top of the list tomorrow. And if Norweg is scum, you are top of the list on Day 3. I've got it all mapped out. :cool:
*COUGH*
Sorry i'm allergic to faulty premises.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 418, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Zantetsu can you just say why you don't believe Una shouldn't be the lynch? Because i feel like this is going nowhere.
Ah ah ah, I've asked you 3 times to explain what YOU think. Why won't you?

Unvote, Vote: Norweg


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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 420, Battle Mage wrote:Ah ah ah, I've asked you 3 times to explain what YOU think. Why won't you?
Because i don't respect you as a player.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 411, Looker wrote: I'm setting boundaries/establishing stances. It's also Schrödinger's cat - if he's scum, I find it suspicious that no one's voted him despite openly criticizing/insulting his intelligence/play; however, if he's town, I want to make any agenda shifts more obvious when he becomes mislynch bait, since people have been openly criticizing/insulting his intelligence/play.
1. riabi
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been voted by someone who openly critized/insulted his intelligence/play.
2. One of the players who has openly criticized his intelligence/play has been you, and you didn't vote him.
3. Only three players from my count have openly criticized his intelligence/play, and once again, you are one of them.
4. It sounds like you are making this all up as you go along.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 421, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 420, Battle Mage wrote:Ah ah ah, I've asked you 3 times to explain what YOU think. Why won't you?
Because i don't respect you as a player.
Apparently you don't respect yourself enough as a player, to actually play the game, rather than make personal insults at me for no reason. Boring. :roll:

For me, it's not a question of whether I respect you as a player. It's a question of whether you are town or scum. And the shameless evasiveness when you are caught piggybacking Zantetsu with no justification, is the final nail for me! :cop:
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:45 am

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I’m not gonna lie. I didn’t join this game to play mafia, i joined this particular game to play with one of my friends who invited me over here. But then they’ve been VL/A for 3 days and i’m stuck dealing with Battle Mage tunneling me. It’s just depressing.
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