Micro 932: A Normal Blitz - Game Over

[humaneatingmonkey]

i think we'll definitely win this since we have a bodyguard and we have 2 investigative roles

[Micc]

Votecount 2.02

Not Voting (7) -

Datisi, humaneatingmonkey, Madoka, GeorgeBailey, shiki, Luca Blight, HoldenGolden

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-04-09 22:35:00).

[shiki]

PEDIT: Hmm, I ask because on the wiki it says that they have to have access to a PT/outside communications and be able to communicate in it (which by how it was worded there suggests that the PT has to have 2 alive players)

it has to have at some point contained 2 living players, i assume. otherwise players like datisi (who frequently uses a notes pt) would potentially be millers to pt cops.

i am a vanilla town.

additionally i am a town 3-shot day vigilante. shiki shoots monkey, madoka and holden. town victorious. i assume the brute force is going to find something similar.

[HoldenGolden]

i think we'll definitely win this since we have a bodyguard and we have 2 investigative roles

That's exactly why I have an issue with this set up because we also have innocent Child since the neighbors were one scum one town.

That's one clear in a set up where town gets ridiculously overpowered Day 3 since they have 2 Neap checks, an IC, and A PT Cop check assuming all three lives to day 3 and mafia neighbor dies.

Mafia either has have an additionally way to kill claimed roles which IIRC is called a strongman or some way to dodge the Neap checks (Maybe Godfather but I cannot remember if they show red or green to Neap. I know they are green to cops, so I assume they show up as VT to Neap)

PEDIT:

Haha that is a funny joke Shiki.

Spoiler: Mafia if all these claims are true

[Madoka]

Datisi no worries.
Shiki what is your avatar and gif at the start of the day from? Also is rocket your main or do you have another?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Madoka I feel out of place that everyone knows you and I don't.
Have we played before... by any chance?

[Madoka]

I don't believe so, I'm fairly new to the site. And you do know me now!

[humaneatingmonkey]

we're all just waiting for you to break the game Datisi, no pressure

[shiki]

Haha that is a funny joke Shiki.

so you at this time do not believe the mafia to be madoka or monkey? i think mafia are more likely to be saying an unverified setup is townsided at this point.

Shiki what is your avatar and gif at the start of the day from? Also is rocket your main or do you have another?

avatar is from kara no kyoukai. gif at the start of the day is from runaway bride. this is now my main for all intents and purposes. team rocket queen was the first account i created but i quickly realized that i should have spent more time in character creation instead of running with the first portmanteau i thought of. when people abbreviated it to trq i pronounced it 'trek' in my head and i did not like this.

[shiki]

unless you meant at the start of yesterday. that gif is also from kara no kyoukai.

[HoldenGolden]

Wait are you actually claiming to be the vig role?

And no I have not ruled them out after the two claims from both have come out.

[shiki]

Wait are you actually claiming to be the vig role?

no, if i was the three of you would be dead and town would be victorious.

[HoldenGolden]

That is what I thought.

Neap + 1 weak invest role + 1 weak protective role + 1 weaker IC

And yes I am questioning the set up proposed because either we trust all the roles and the fact that town has two invest roles. One with the false positives of the other PR roles and the other with the neighbors. A VT check, assuming there is no godfather with a variation to avoid neap, is a god send while no PT association also is a strong check too. Maybe I could see it, but not when there is also a BG there too in the mixture.

I think 4 town PR with more chances to clear by invest is a very unlikely set up and more likely one of Madoka/HEM is lieing

[Madoka]

More PRs = weaker neap.

Godfather isn't normal.

[Madoka]

The last game I played with neighbors, traffic analysts, and neapolitan however, the traffic analyst and one of the neighbors was scum.

[Madoka]

Lynch monkey, check Holden, Guard me?

[HoldenGolden]

More PRs = weaker neap.

Godfather isn't normal.

I get that, but that is still a very strong set up with you have the BG thrown in too

Well I guess "swingy" is a better term to use

PEDIT:
Do you also suspect Monkey's claim?

[Luca Blight]

The TA was a fake claim, he was actually a goon.

[Madoka]

Ah.

Holden, I'm not sure. I think your play is most suspicious. It feels like cornered scum looking for a way out.

[Luca Blight]

I agree that Holden feels like scum atm.

[GeorgeBailey]

Holden was also off-wagon yesterday.

[GeorgeBailey]

That's exactly why I have an issue with this set up because we also have innocent Child since the neighbors were one scum one town.

That's one clear in a set up where town gets ridiculously overpowered Day 3 since they have 2 Neap checks, an IC, and A PT Cop check assuming all three lives to day 3 and mafia neighbor dies.

Mafia either has have an additionally way to kill claimed roles which IIRC is called a strongman or some way to dodge the Neap checks (Maybe Godfather but I cannot remember if they show red or green to Neap. I know they are green to cops, so I assume they show up as VT to Neap)

But this is a really decent point, and doesn't really seem like TMI.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm just gonna wait for Datisi because I think all this talk is pointless depending on his play.
I don't think Madoka and George is lying. That entire interaction basically conf-towns them. It was very TvT.
scum is in shiki and Holden. With a very very small chance of Luca.

[humaneatingmonkey]

if Datisi does not break the game, I'm gonna be very salty
again, no pressure

[GeorgeBailey]

I think all this talk is pointless depending on his play.

Not necessarily, it's not like it's guaranteed he has the solution to the game.