IIn post 144, AaronFrost wrote:It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in 31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
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Whoops.In post 150, Hectic wrote:
IIn post 144, AaronFrost wrote:
It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in 31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
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I was more getting at the fact he answered my TOF/townread question with a joke rather than answer seriously with any potential townreads.- Wake1
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How early is too early to start scumhunting and figuring out the game in your opinion, Morning Tweet?In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote:
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?- SirCakez
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I went ahead and compared Wake's entrance in this game to his scumgame that I modded and I think I agree with a townlean there. I think he's tonally different compared to that game and here he has a better interest in solving than he did there, specifically by bringing up the meta thing.- Gamma Emerald
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Oh shitIn post 121, Hectic wrote:
Oh God lol. I remember reading a bit of that when it was happening and I thought Wake's entrance felt a lot townier than usual.In post 86, AaronFrost wrote: Waka flocka flame has rolled scum in the last year
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560
Didn't realize town won that game
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At the moment, I don't really remember. I spent initially started the process of getting that 50p game started way back in early December, so I haven't played since November.In post 51, Hectic wrote: Wake, have you rolled scum in the last year?- Gamma Emerald
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I am of the agreeing.In post 154, AaronFrost wrote:I went ahead and compared Wake's entrance in this game to his scumgame that I modded and I think I agree with a townlean there. I think he's tonally different compared to that game and here he has a better interest in solving than he did there, specifically by bringing up the meta thing.We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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Okay, what do you think of him now that he's playing seriously?In post 151, Hectic wrote:
Whoops.In post 150, Hectic wrote:
IIn post 144, AaronFrost wrote:
It's not like anyone else was trying to get us out of RVS either (other than Cakez, just now) so i'm not sure this is necessarily an AI thing, especially for Holden. I have limited experience with him though (first game on site which I had to sub out of).In post 119, Hectic wrote:Having said that, I am worried about not a single attempt to move out of RVS in any of his posts. One example was when I tried to engage on AI stuff regarding his TOF (townreads) in 31, but he replied with his dog being his strongest townread rather than talk about whether he had anyone as town yet.
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Alright. I liked his Morning Tweet observation, and his questions were fine.In post 158, AaronFrost wrote:Okay, what do you think of him now that he's playing seriously?- AaronFrost
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Seems like a reach, but OK.In post 59, bob3141 wrote:
if waka hasnt rolled scum this year
gambler's fallacy here i come
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This is true.In post 60, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Some of usIn post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?HATEday 1.- Wake1
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OK, I remember that one now.In post 86, AaronFrost wrote:
Waka flocka flame has rolled scum in the last yearIn post 59, bob3141 wrote:In post 51, Hectic wrote:
I've seen/read though like 6 Wake games, but they were all town. I may or may not have gained some knowledge while impersonating him in the 50 player large for a bit. Wake, have you rolled scum in the last year?In post 48, davesaz wrote:
I think it's a reference back to the 50p that Wake modded where metadiving was a very big thing.In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote:
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
if waka hasnt rolled scum this year
gambler's fallacy here i come
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I don't see an issue with it provided he's correct.In post 93, tictac wrote:
Why r u answering for wake?In post 86, AaronFrost wrote:Waka flocka flame has rolled scum in the last year
rude.- Wake1
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Eh, lying is Scummy so I don't much like seeing it from Town unless there's a very good reason for it.In post 94, tictac wrote:
well, u gonna suck if ya scum, since ya think lying is naughty. that's what ya told me last time ya were scum anywhey.In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
speaking of: are ya scum here? I'm gonna be sad if ya lie.
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He likes Rob WAY more.
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You probably shouldn't dish out Town points that easily. Just my opinion.In post 95, profii wrote: Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think- Wake1
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In post 121, Hectic wrote:
Oh God lol. I remember reading a bit of that when it was happening and I thought Wake's entrance felt a lot townier than usual.In post 86, AaronFrost wrote: Waka flocka flame has rolled scum in the last year
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560
What I can say is that when I'm Scum I can be very convincing Town (the only reason we crumbled in that game was due to the Town-sided setup).
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There isn't really a "too early", although I was more concerned with getting out meta-tells in specific. Getting meta-tells out in the open before people have had a chance to make them seems ineffective at first but i like your explanation in 20In post 152, Wake1 wrote:
How early is too early to start scumhunting and figuring out the game in your opinion, Morning Tweet?In post 46, Morning Tweet wrote:
this is a wacky thing to say. do you usually commence the metadiving within the first couple of dozen posts?In post 14, Wake1 wrote:So, of course it's a reach, but do we have any hard info on meta-tells on any of these people?
I like dishing out town points a bunch on day one, even if its really small things. Anything that gives someone above random% chance of being scum helpsWake88 wrote:
You probably shouldn't dish out Town points that easily. Just my opinion.In post 95, profii wrote: Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think- Hectic
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What alignments has Waka Waka been when you've seen him declare Day 1 as the work of the abyssals? And if they're all town, then why does this difference earn him town points rather than scum points?In post 95, profii wrote:Weird that Wake went for meta instead of declaring his hatred for day 1. Town points there I think- Wake1
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Seems awfully reasonable of you.In post 133, Morning Tweet wrote:At first when he proposed doing meta dives out of the blue, i starting having a slight crackpot theory that scum!Wake wanted to gain town cred in a way that sticks out really well
Someone (you i think actually) asked him for an explanation of why he would want to out metas before people have a chance to even display them (which was a good point).
His answer of wanting to make people nervous and change their playstyles from the outted meta rather than simply observe whether their meta was the same seemed like a pretty good idea to me actually. And then dave answered my question of why he was so eager on the proposition. Overall I like him doing it as town better
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