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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:55 pm

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Battle Mage, join me on the only real wagon today.
I've made up my mind, and I really want to VOTE: Luca Blight today.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 659, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 658, Anotora wrote:We ended the day this quickly? Foolish and premature.
Oh please. This day needed to end. Nothing productive was happening outside of that Profii wagon.
Also this is 75% surely scum.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 673, UnaBombaH wrote:Yea, Looker is the designated mislynch for scum today apparently.
Think of him as profii 2.0. :]

Norwegian might say whatever he wants about it, but my gutread on profii was accurate, and I wish enough of you guys could've trusted me just a bit more.
I'm comfortable you're probably town. And also Luca and Norweg are probably town. :cop:

Who do you think is scum?
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:57 pm

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Luca Blight is scum.
Won't vote anyone else for now.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:59 pm

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In post 675, UnaBombaH wrote:Battle Mage, join me on the only real wagon today.
I've made up my mind, and I really want to VOTE: Luca Blight today.
Ah I didn't read this before I posted. Not convinced by a Luca wagon.

And as for Looker - I have no idea, I find him next-to-impossible to meta. :facepalm:
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:59 pm

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In post 678, UnaBombaH wrote:Luca Blight is scum.
Won't vote anyone else for now.
Why?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:03 pm

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I have a guilty on him?
Barring a mod-error, he is scum. :]
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:06 pm

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In post 99, UnaBombaH wrote:Until that however, I will give you list of players that I feel like I can read correctly
once I get enough actions to analyze
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profii
Luca Blight

Saudade
Normally I'd try to drag out my claim to try and get more guilties/inno's out of it, but I recognize his position in this town to be high enough to never get lynched unless I act now.
So yea, I checked Luca last night, since you wouldn't let me confirm profii N1.
Saudade is dead too, so glad I decided to follow my own order. :lol:
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:07 pm

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Scum:
Zantetsu
Anotora
Churros

Neutral:
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Egix96
Looker

Town:
NorwegianboyEE
Luca Blight
UnaBombaH

This is roughly where I am in terms of reads. Interested in exploring the Anotora-Churros relationship as possible partners. I need a re-read of Zant, but outstandingly my top pick for a lynch today.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:16 pm

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This is why I should check before I post... :lol:
In post 681, UnaBombaH wrote:I have a guilty on him?
Barring a mod-error, he is scum. :]
In post 682, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 99, UnaBombaH wrote:Until that however, I will give you list of players that I feel like I can read correctly
once I get enough actions to analyze
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profii
Luca Blight

Saudade
Normally I'd try to drag out my claim to try and get more guilties/inno's out of it, but I recognize his position in this town to be high enough to never get lynched unless I act now.
So yea, I checked Luca last night, since you wouldn't let me confirm profii N1.
Saudade is dead too, so glad I decided to follow my own order. :lol:
You're claiming a cop with a guilty on Luca? Well that works for me. :cop:

Unvote, Vote: Luca
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Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

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winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:24 pm

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Not claiming a Cop.
But it's a 100% accurate guilty.
Will fullclaim the guilty-result once mod clarifies a potential wording-error, but as the result currently stands I have a guilty on Luca. :]
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:28 pm

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I am a town neighbor, my neighbor is 72.

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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:36 pm

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There’s no possible 100% guilty you could get on me given my role, so you must be lying.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:41 pm

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In post 686, Luca Blight wrote:I am a town neighbor, my neighbor is 72.

What is your result?
Can confirm, so unless Luca is a scum neighbour, Una is lying.

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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:43 pm

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My reads from yesterday.

Townlean
Riabi
Saudade
Luca Blight

Slight townlean
Egix96

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Looker
Zantetsu

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Churros
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:43 pm

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Townlean
Riabi

64 - Riabi genuinely seems to have investigated into Saud's mason claim, meta diving into him

137 - Townie vibes - I feel as tho !scum Riabi would have hopped onto Norwe's logic in 136 about Profii being overly self-concious,
from the get go rather than fight it, if profii was the mislynch that Riabi was after.
Given this exchange happened so early on in the day, it gives me townie vibes.

Riabi following up Luca's case on profii felt genuine and like a natural progression in scum reading profii

593 - Pretty much agree with Riabi's reads and the reasoning behind them, which makes me feel like Riabi is reading this game from a town-perspective
I have Saudade higher, but I can see from Riabi's view why he is lower on Riabi's eyes.
NBEE I have as null, though I didn't see anything amongst Riabi's reads on NBEE as being forced or disingenuous
BM I have lower, as null - felt townie during the day but the early hammer was bad and denied me posting my reads and getting reaction to my reads from others.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:44 pm

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135: Townie vibes - Luca pressures profii and the wording of the post, feels like the sort of post I make as town
"Lurking only helps scum.So if you are town, don't lurk. If you are scum, lurk to your hearts content." - Newbie 1987,post#198.


The case on profii overall felt town-motivated and the progression of the scumread felt genuine. Agreed with the meta read


388- Increasing pressure on the lower-posting players including Churros, Looker, myself and Anotora, is in line with a town-motivated mindset


Agree with Luca's read on Churros in 464 - feels like Churros pocketing of NBEE, and then basically is threatening NBEE that he wont TR NBEE, if NBEE SRs Churros.


526's I like Luca's pressuring of Churro's lurking, which provokes reaction and causes Churros to become overly defensive
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 pm

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Townie vibe despite his grating and jerk-like attitude. Antagonistic and aggressive attitude but basically zero buddying and in-your-face.
TRs Riabi despite their constant arguing - I feel like !scumSaud would SR and tunnel Riabi in this situation

Outs his reads and they feel genuine - and backs up his reads.
He TRs NBEE in 289 , and then actively actions his read, rather than just a read for read's sake - he defends NBEE in 483 / 484 after he gets just 1 vote
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 pm

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Slight Townlean
Egix

98 Townie vibes - Not only agrees with my read, but rather expands on it, not merely buddying/sheeping.
Agree with his theory that this post feels like a scummy mindset to be focused on night kill

355 Points out an appropriate flaw in Looker's logic - feels like an appropriate tone towards a slot I read as null.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 pm

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Null-Town
Looker

Scummy in that he mostly fluff posts, almost no elaboration regarding reasons for votes

Townie vibe off 496 - Explains his reasoning for voting on Churros, which feels genuinely town-motivated.
Agree an AFK followed by a vote on a leading wagon is scummy.
I pretty much did the same thing in a game I replaced in as scum later on in day 1.
Scum read the scummiest looking town player that others were already voting.
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 pm

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Null-town
Zan
Most of his early game posts I find bland and mostly NAI, not really game-progressing in any way.

315 reads list followed by 334 reads explanation give me townie vibes.
The reasoning in the profii wagon analysis makes sense and I agree with the townleans on Egix and Luca, as well as the scumlean on Churros and Anotora.

436 and the "Informed theory sounds like a stretch and feels like red herring/distraction posting
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:45 pm

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Null
NBEE
Lots of posts, but nearly all of them are NAI.

Like 236 Questioning the gap in Una's logic i.e not mentioning BM's presence on the profii wagon


Dilike 335 - agree with BM that it feels like scum buddying. It feels a bit forced and artificial too.


368 Reads list looks fairly close to my own, disagree with Zantetsu as a strong townread and Riabi being null.
NBEE then proceeds with voting in 555 to "wake him up" resulting in the lynch of profii, despite having him as null. Scummy.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:46 pm

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BM
Early game townie vibes.
Agree with Riabi that BM has been antagonistic and provoking reactions. Voting for Riabi in 34 and Zantetsu in 37 albeit with weak reasoning, felt like progression taking town out of RVS phase.

I agree with BM's 200, the case against profii, the meta of Mini Normal 2121.
The scumread of profii feels genuine.

202 - Agree with his statement regarding Una's disinterest Proffi's being at L-2.
Disagree with his read of Anotora - I see nothing about Anotora;s post as being town.

206 - Hate the early ask for a claim - scummy

279 - Review of interaction between Una and Profii and the analysis of the profii wagon feels like genuine scumhunting.

621 - Scummy post and vote. Early hammer denied me posting my reads and getting reaction to my reads from others.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:46 pm

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Scumlean
Churros

Lynchpool of Profi/Una/Riabi/Anora is most of the "usual suspects" - the average of who most players find scummy, which feels like he is preparing for easy mislynches.
Agree with Looker's 496 theory - AFK followed by votes/FOSes on leading wagons is scummy.

Feel like he is buddying me by repeating multiple times about Una voting for me.


Agree with Luca's read on Churros in 464 - feels like pocketing of NBEE, and then basically is threatening NBEE that he wont TR NBEE if NBEE SRs Churros.

464 Churros scummily calls the SR on himself as "reachy" and shady, which I think town would acknowledge this as a reasonable read.
Overly defensive.

528 - overly defensive regarding Luca's 526 questioning of Churro's lurking
Describes himself as a top wagon, despite only 2 votes on him. Suggestive of a survivalistic scum mindset.

623 - townie vibe off this post - agree with Churros that BM's vote feels scummy with his attached "NBEE needs to be lynched" comment
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:46 pm

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In 99 he states that he can read correctly profii, Luca and Saudade given enough info.
In 149 I ask him on his thoughts on the 3 slots he identifies with most, given profii voted, Luca voted for Profii, and combined the 3 slots have a third of the totalposts between posts 100-148
Una doesnt respond.
Then in 203 BM repeats my question. Had to ask him twice. Feels like scum delaying making a call on these slots after stating they are the slots they can read the best.


230 - Meme-votes despite profii being at L-1. Especially a player he sees he can get a handle on, and one he later insists he doesnt want lynched.
This contradicts with his meme-phase vote on me, with 0 votes. Saying he doesn't want profii lynched, but not doing much about it.


267 - Accuses me of being on a solo wagon at the time thus not game-progressing. 5 others were on solo wagons - Zantetsu, Churros, Looker, BM and profii.
Feels more like an accusation from survival-minded scum influenced by me voting him.


480 - Rambly post that ends with him talking about the scenario of PR profii claiming VT
- "So assume I was informed profii has a role - I would've wanted him dead the moment he claimed VT and said he was ready to die."
Irrelevant, when does PR ever claim VT?
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