Newbie 1996: GAME OVER

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 1.05

humaneatingmonkey - (1)

- Holdengolden

LuckyLuciano - (2)

- Yooh, humaneatingmonkey

Aloratom - (2)

- Peaches, Luckyluciano

Inwho22 - (1)

- 3bounty,

Peaches - (2)

- Kirari Momobami, Inwho22

Not Voting (1) -

Aloratom

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-04-19 06:15:00)

[Kirari Momobami]

Peaches, mind weighing in on the drama? It seems we were overshadowed by Aloratom not doing RVS, and I don't like sharing the spotlight.

I dont get it.

RVS votes can provide information later on in the game. Town's strongest tool is their vote. I dont get why Aloratom didn't place an RVS vote. I still want @Aloratom to answer.

do you have reads on anyone else this game?

[Kirari Momobami]

UNVOTE: Monkey
VOTE: InWho22

Half a prod dodge because it's clear that this day is being driven by tunneling and I don't want to be a part of it. Half because 3 players have been given a free pass to do nothing because this day is being driven by tunneling. Cya guys again in another 24 hours, or day two.

I think it likely mafia doesn't become invested in a game so early so as to: 1) make this post, and 2) not abide by it.

I would flip the conclusion on 2 but agree on 1 kinda

[Aloratom]

While I do partly agree with LL's recent posts, in that I already found Alora's gameplay focused posts to be consistently unintuitive, I will have to spend some time looking the referenced games through. With 8 days left I think a lynch at this moment would be pointless, but I do think it is worth it to look into the case.
Having said that (and keeping in mind that my mind may change once I've read the evidence), this does feel rather like at the start of the game with LL, in that he is possibly saying that we should just instantly lynch someone for possibly in some way having shown a sign of scum.
(And the last possibility is of course just that LL is bad at reading.)

Can I ask what you mean by "gameplay focused posts?"

I think that you're talking about my theory-related questions, now that I've seen your spoilered read on me. If that's the case, those questions are, for the most part, attempts at forming a baseline from which to develop reads.

[Kirari Momobami]

Alora sorry to bring up self meta again but would you say you're as polarized as I think you are? I was one of the magus heads in schadd's weird micro and I'm tempted to town you purely off postcount, but I don't want to insult your scumrange or say you can't grow as a scum player

[Kirari Momobami]

Polarized meaning you post way more as town than as scum in case that term is less common than I think

[Aloratom]

It's more a reference to my last game where I pinged scum!monkey for posting a wall of mostly wishy washy reads unannounced. Most people sees a wall of text and either go townlean or skim through it. For scum, it's a easy way to pad out a long post to look like you are making content.

I agree with your conclusion here. I don't think people automatically Town lean walls though. Maybe in Newbies, I guess.

[Aloratom]

Alora sorry to bring up self meta again but would you say you're as polarized as I think you are? I was one of the magus heads in schadd's weird micro and I'm tempted to town you purely off postcount, but I don't want to insult your scumrange or say you can't grow as a scum player

That's okay. That cracks me up that you were one of the heads. That's a very bad game to go off of because I gimmicked it by over-playing the naive newbie card hard. The only other scum game I have is Mini Normal 2121. That would probably be a better game to look at. Those are my only two scum games actually. I can't say that I post more as Town -- I don't know that there's a big enough sample.

[InWho22]

While I do partly agree with LL's recent posts, in that I already found Alora's gameplay focused posts to be consistently unintuitive, I will have to spend some time looking the referenced games through. With 8 days left I think a lynch at this moment would be pointless, but I do think it is worth it to look into the case.
Having said that (and keeping in mind that my mind may change once I've read the evidence), this does feel rather like at the start of the game with LL, in that he is possibly saying that we should just instantly lynch someone for possibly in some way having shown a sign of scum.
(And the last possibility is of course just that LL is bad at reading.)

Can I ask what you mean by "gameplay focused posts?"

I think that you're talking about my theory-related questions, now that I've seen your spoilered read on me. If that's the case, those questions are, for the most part, attempts at forming a baseline from which to develop reads.

As I went back to find the specific posts you posted this and yeah, it looks like you explained the confusion shortly after too. I just felt that it was important to note in a context of you writing confusingly. I think it is NAI at all.

[Aloratom]

Also I forgot to change my vote.
VOTE: 3bounty
Based on above-stated beliefs either Alora or 3b deserve it, but 3b is active so let's see you talk.
Also can we get a VC?

I think you're probably Town. And I like your push on Peaches to encourage activity. Pressure votes are good.

VOTE: Peaches

I think that's just L-2.

[Aloratom]

Polarized meaning you post way more as town than as scum in case that term is less common than I think

And thanks for this. I wasn't aware of this term.

[Aloratom]

Polarized meaning you post way more as town than as scum in case that term is less common than I think

And thanks for this. I wasn't aware of this term.

As far as Mafia jargon goes.

[Kirari Momobami]

Actually looking at both your scum games you're probably town off meta even without polarity for different reasons

Pedit: polarity can mean the other way too (post a lot more as scum than town), basically it just means there's really obvious differences between how a polarized player plays scum and town. The most common by far is 'lurksack as scum, hyperposting town' tho altho it's reversed for a few players

[Kirari Momobami]

Lucky alora and who for hard town I think

I thought I found town in monkey but not as hard, let me double check

[Kirari Momobami]

this guy is town.

Probably enough to give monkey a 1 day pass for this post and then I can decide if he's hard town tomorrow

[Kirari Momobami]

To be fair, I also follow my gut.

Can you answer my post #84, please?

Also, can you tell us the reason why you town read Holden?

Yooh how much offsite experience do you have?

[Kirari Momobami]

Hmmmm. Nah sorry can't see it. Alo is probably town. You're correct I played 1994 with him, but I subbed in halfway through day 1, and the game had no day 2 so. Not much content there at all, dont expect me to be an Alo expert, I am just as confused as the rest by some of his posts in here.

Rereading some of InWho22's recent posts, starting to get lamist vibes.

Like the alora read but not the who read here. What jumped out as lamist?

[Kirari Momobami]

Damn I don't want to scumread holden but I kinda do

[Kirari Momobami]

Yeah crap this is probably holden+1, best chance peaches

Disappointing, I like town holden

[Aloratom]

All I got for you is that I agree on your holden take. The rest just seems like you are trying to fill the post with words.

I like this post, but I can't find what it's in response to. It doesn't make sense as a response to 232, especially when you quoted 232 in your 234. Can you help?

[HoldenGolden]

I know it's an assoctive read, but why do you see scum equity between HEM and Alor Lucky?

[HoldenGolden]

Yeah crap this is probably holden+1, best chance peaches

Disappointing, I like town holden

You are welcome to expand the main idea of this post.

You've called me scum twice now without actually providing a rational. Makes me sad. Sad GoldenHolden is sad. But I'm HoldenGolden so I just smile.

Also have we played before? I dont think we have, so how do you know town vs scum me?

[3bounty]

Hmmmm. Nah sorry can't see it. Alo is probably town. You're correct I played 1994 with him, but I subbed in halfway through day 1, and the game had no day 2 so. Not much content there at all, dont expect me to be an Alo expert, I am just as confused as the rest by some of his posts in here.

Rereading some of InWho22's recent posts, starting to get lamist vibes.

Like the alora read but not the who read here. What jumped out as lamist?

On his iso, check out post 226 to the end of 246.

[3bounty]

All I got for you is that I agree on your holden take. The rest just seems like you are trying to fill the post with words.

I like this post, but I can't find what it's in response to. It doesn't make sense as a response to 232, especially when you quoted 232 in your 234. Can you help?

226

[3bounty]

A peaches lynch unfortunately doesn't give me anything moving forward, but there is a chance that she herself is scum so there's that.