Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

[Enter]

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

I'm not.

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned.

Not that that's relevant

[Ginngie]

Votecount

Bulbazak- 4 (Alisae, MariaR, Enter, Pine)

L - 3

Pine- 3 (mastina, Bulbazak, Gamma Emerald)

L - 4

mastina- 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

L - 6

Not Voting - 13 MINUS THE NUMBERS ABOVE ADDED FUCK THIS PART (The Rest of you fucks)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Day One's deadline is Monday, April 27th, @ 10:00 PM EST: (expired on 2020-04-27 22:00:00).

chronic masturbaters
-mastina
-Bulbazak
-PenguinPower
-Taly
-Pink Ball
-Gamma Emerald

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm having a hard time following the leap from

mastina

to

Bulbazak

, specifically

(Alisae/MariaR/Pine)

Well to be blunt--while that trio isn't the scumteam, it's got 1-2 scum in it for sure, so.

Agreed

Also think Enter is a strong scum candidate

[Enter]

Wow another pagetop

[Enter]

I recognize and agree that MariaR and Pine could very easily be scum

Why is Alisae not mentioned?

Because I don't think they're scum?

[Enter]

I'm having a hard time following the leap from

mastina

to

Bulbazak

, specifically

(Alisae/MariaR/Pine)

Well to be blunt--while that trio isn't the scumteam, it's got 1-2 scum in it for sure, so.

Agreed

Also think Enter is a strong scum candidate

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

I'm not

Really? Because all the backup SK point did was waste time and possibly cause confusion and disharmony. I haven’t read most of the game and I already get the sense you’re openwolfing here.

[Enter]

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

At no point did I imply there was an SK in this game.

Taly did, however. Where's your response to him?

[Enter]

Let me rephrase:

Enter, why are you saying things that act helpful but contribute nothing overall?

I'm not

Really? Because all the backup SK point did was waste time and possibly cause confusion and disharmony.

I haven’t read most of the game

and I already get the sense you’re openwolfing here.

That's blatantly apparent.

[Gamma Emerald]

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Btw what’s up with this?

[Enter]

Sorry, it wasn't Taly who brought up the point about there being a potential SK, someone just pointed out that anyone can buy a vig shot in the shop.

[Gamma Emerald]

There was an SK and a backup SK in mainstream mafia II

They were aligned. Not that that's relevant

Yeah it’s not. That game was 40 players. A game on my homesite had 48 players and a tandem SK duo (one actually killed while the other provided the BP effect for the pair). This game is 13 players. Run the math on that, why don’t you? We’re not going to have a backup SK in a game this small.

Enter tell me why you’re asking stupid questions.

At no point did I imply there was an SK in this game.

Taly did, however. Where's your response to him?

How and where did Taly imply an SK?

Also I don’t fucking answer to you. I’m playing my way which right now is just reading whatever I can in the time I can allot to this and working with what I’ve got. I’m not going to force myself to catch all the way up for some noble ideal of “playing the game as a service”. Fuck that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry, it wasn't Taly who brought up the point about there being a potential SK, someone just pointed out that anyone can buy a vig shot in the shop.

Yeah you better step down before I step up

[Enter]

How and where did Taly imply an SK?

Also I don’t fucking answer to you. I’m playing my way which right now is just reading whatever I can in the time I can allot to this and working with what I’ve got. I’m not going to force myself to catch all the way up for some noble ideal of “playing the game as a service”. Fuck that.

The attitude here is so fucking ridiculous I'm still trying to wrap my brain around it. The closest thing I've heard to it is items like "noble idea of vaccinating my children." You signed up for the game, now play it or replace out.

Sorry, it wasn't Taly who brought up the point about there being a potential SK, someone just pointed out that anyone can buy a vig shot in the shop.

Yeah you better step down before I step up

I hope you step up because it will be the most ridiculous thing since sending Eddie the Eagle to the Olympics. I'd love to see you try to stand on that pile of garbage that is literally just you pulling posts w/o context from the thread and calling it a case.

[Enter]

SO much entitlement in: "I don't answer to you, I'm not going to catch up for the "noble idea of playing the game"

[Enter]

What a ridiculous string of posts.

[Enter]

How are you asking me questions and then getting pissed when I ask you questions back?

[Enter]

GE: "asks question"
Enter: "asks question back"
GE: "who the fuck do you think you are i don't answer to you I'm not here to play the game I'm gonna do what i want fuck off"

[Enter]

Just wait, the next post will be "I'm going to answer you ENter, but it's gonna be because I want to, not because you told me too!"

[Pink Ball]

I'm going to answer you Enter, but it's gonna be because I want to, not because you told me too!

[Pink Ball]

Omfg Enter how did you do that

[Dunnstral]

Pink Ball I don't like your lack of doing anything substantive

[Bulbazak]

Ari's been posting a little in the neighborhood. Mainly about people's drug choice.

Indeed. Still not out of his scum range levels of posting but I wouldn't damn him as definitely scum yet when we've got much better immediate suspects.

He's in my PoE lurker pool. I have a couple of assumptions that point to him being prob scum, but they're not good enough to follow d1.

Enter is not worth getting into right now. If he's town, any fight you get into will create white noise. If he's scum, he'll argue just enough to confuse town and make any town who goes at him look like the bad guy. Enter's alignment will become obvious in time.

[Dunnstral]

@Enter: You still have yet to give a reason why masturbating would be bad.

p-edit: This neutral 3rd party fear has always been bull crap. Most players with a neutral 3rd party still have a town bent, which means they are more likely to help town than scum if given the choice. Lynching them wastes a lynch and ignores any help they can give. They are an easy wagon for scum to push and hide on. If you want to vig them, fine, but if the objective is easily obtainable and does not go against our wincon, there's no point wasting time trying to kill them.

What is the difference between lynching mastina and vigging mastina that makes one of those acceptable?

Lynches are not 100% town controlled and are one of the best sources of information on later days. That's why policy lynching a 3p "just because" is bad, because it's easy for scum to blend in, creates too much noise in the moment, and might not be useful on later days. And that's ignoring that there are certain 3p roles you don't want to lynch at all in a self-proclaimed bastard game where everything is on the table. A vig is 100% town controlled and can be used to get rid of players or roles that can hurt the town in the long run or that can cause a distraction.

Given that vigs are readily available, that should be an easy choice for anyone that wants to get rid of mastina because of the 3p claim. Policy lynching mastina just because she claimed 3p is going to shorten the day and not give us as much information as literally any other lynch.

You asked the difference between lynching and vigging. I gave you the simplified answer. Scum are not going to shoot mastina. Only town will. And lynches provide more information than vigging. I really don't see how informative a mastina lynch would be if she's a 3p, which was why she was being waggoned. Outside of that, I'm not arguing semantics with you.

Same thing with the 3p claim and why I'm against lynching her. I've given my reasons. Why is wanting to test a verifiable claim of a neutral 3p scum motivated, especially when it could tell us who is town and who is scum?

Gamma Emerald, what do you think of these posts by Bulbazak?

[Gamma Emerald]

SO much entitlement in: "I don't answer to you, I'm not going to catch up for the "noble idea of playing the game"

AS A SERVICE. This is a HOBBY. Get bent with your out-of-context smear tactics.