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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:12 am

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I’m becoming more and more sure of Chose/Taly


(And Churros, I’m gonna butcher your name more and more until I die.)
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:12 am

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I was pretty busy and couldn't devote much attention to the game.
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:15 am

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No, I get it. No judgement or anything, don’t feel bad about having a life. You’re here now.
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:15 am

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From trying to catch up it look like Taly is thinking you and Paragon, is that right?
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:18 am

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No, I'm leaning on
Eye/?
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:19 am

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Ahh, Taly. And we were townbloced yesterday. How quickly things change when you feel like you can mislynch me
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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:20 am

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I really am sorry for the flaming that you received from BM yesterday, even if you are scum
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:20 am

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In post 2526, Taly wrote:Think about why he checked you, Paragon:
Even in the world that you are town, he gets someone who he could pocket by having a soft "clear" on them, and an additional townie to push a lynch for.

Eye's play - despite how you slice it - is suboptimal at best, and scum at worst. Makes perfect sense why Scum Neapolitan is a valued scum investigative: It will out the Gun-Smith, 2shot-BP, and 1shot-Vig.
Scum Neapolitan? Is that a role?
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:22 am

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It can be
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:23 am

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In post 2581, eyestott wrote:I really am sorry for the flaming that you received from BM yesterday, even if you are scum
Thank you, but I have a feeling that that's Battle Mage's personality (at least online personality), and I've been dealing with that kind of thing for a long time. The key is not to take anything that's said online to heart unless you want it to.
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:24 am

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In post 2583, eyestott wrote:It can be
I guess that makes sense. (the role, not the accusation by Taly necessarily)
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 2584, Aloratom wrote:
In post 2581, eyestott wrote:I really am sorry for the flaming that you received from BM yesterday, even if you are scum
Thank you, but I have a feeling that that's Battle Mage's personality (at least online personality), and I've been dealing with that kind of thing for a long time. The key is not to take anything that's said online to heart unless you want it to.
That was actually directed at Taly!
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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:26 am

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But weren't you the one who volunteered that you were an investigative before anyone had mentioned claiming?
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:26 am

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In post 2580, eyestott wrote:Ahh, Taly. And we were townbloced yesterday. How quickly things change when you feel like you can mislynch me
I'm not the one who said
"I want to work with
Taly
for the next few IRL days, not dayphase"


It's kind of weird, if you've always suspected I fakeclaimed, why were you content with me jumping into your pocket?

Need me to send you the posts as a reminder?
In post 2581, eyestott wrote:I really am sorry for the flaming that you received from BM yesterday, even if you are scum
Meh. Town would've lost had he remained alive, regardless of his alignment.

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Aloratom wrote:
In post 2526, Taly wrote:Think about why he checked you, Paragon:
Even in the world that you are town, he gets someone who he could pocket by having a soft "clear" on them, and an additional townie to push a lynch for.

Eye's play - despite how you slice it - is suboptimal at best, and scum at worst. Makes perfect sense why Scum Neapolitan is a valued scum investigative: It will out the Gun-Smith, 2shot-BP, and 1shot-Vig.
Scum Neapolitan? Is that a role?
Yes. It takes 3 fucking clicks and two-three words in a search bar to see this:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neapolitan
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A Neapolitan is an informative role that can check one player per night to see whether or not they are a Vanilla Townie.

While Neapolitans have utility for both Town and Mafia, they are more commonly assigned to Town.

The Neapolitan was created by Ether as a buff to the Vanilla Cop for Normal Games.
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Town
The Town Neapolitan is designed around the ability to confirm townies rather than get guilty results on mafia. As no normal mafia roles are immune to its power, any vanilla results are indisputable.

The Neapolitan is weaker than a Cop (which can get guilties) and stronger than the original Vanilla Cop (which can't confirm alignments). Its power is comparable to a slightly weaker Gunsmith, in that it has the potential to get many more false guilties, getting the same result on all Power Roles as it does on Mafia.

The Neapolitan becomes significantly weaker for town the fewer Vanilla Townies are present. In a setup in which at least half of all other players are VTs, an averagely played Neapolitan can be expected to confirm around 2 players as town.

Anti-town
As an anti-town role, the Neapolitan is equivalent to a Vanilla Cop and slightly weaker than a Role Cop, in that its primary purpose is to determine which players are Power Roles and worth killing.
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The fact that I have to spell this shit out to you makes me more confident that you arguing that
Eye
comes from a Town PR here more false.

Especially when you give 2/3 potential scumteams with
Eye
in it.
Aloratom wrote:In my eyes it has to be the Bulletproof or the Neapolitan that doesn't exist.

I'm really coming around to [Eyestott/Churros], [Paragon/Eyestott], [Paragon/Churros].
If this is your attempt at distancing, it's poorly thought out.
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:27 am

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In post 2586, eyestott wrote:
In post 2584, Aloratom wrote:
In post 2581, eyestott wrote:I really am sorry for the flaming that you received from BM yesterday, even if you are scum
Thank you, but I have a feeling that that's Battle Mage's personality (at least online personality), and I've been dealing with that kind of thing for a long time. The key is not to take anything that's said online to heart unless you want it to.
That was actually directed at Taly!
Oh. lol. See. I haven't caught up.
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:27 am

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I feel confident in a Churros lynch.
What do you think, Alo?
And Paragon also
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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 2588, Taly wrote:It's kind of weird, if you've always suspected I fakeclaimed, why were you content with me jumping into your pocket?

Need me to send you the posts as a reminder?
Can you explain what “me jumping into your pocket” means?
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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:30 am

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In post 2562, Churros wrote:
In post 2558, Aloratom wrote:In my eyes it has to be the Bulletproof or the Neapolitan that doesn't exist.

I'm really coming around to [Eyestott/Churros], [Paragon/Eyestott], [Paragon/Churros].
You say that either the BP or Nea that doesn't exist but you're putting me in two different scum teams and not mentioning Taly at all?
They don't want to call me scum because they know I'll bury them.

That's why they spent this game telling me I had good points but not actually acting on them because they were accurate, and they knew it.
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:31 am

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In post 2590, eyestott wrote:I feel confident in a Churros lynch.
What do you think, Alo?
And Paragon also
What about your Paragon clear?
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 2591, eyestott wrote:
In post 2588, Taly wrote:It's kind of weird, if you've always suspected I fakeclaimed, why were you content with me jumping into your pocket?

Need me to send you the posts as a reminder?
Can you explain what “me jumping into your pocket” means?
I townread you thinking you had no reason to want a claim as scum.

But you didn't argue this, yet you seem to believe that my PR claim is false from the beginning, or at least potentially.

If you believed my claim was false, why didn't you try to clear
Churros'
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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 2593, Aloratom wrote:
In post 2590, eyestott wrote:I feel confident in a Churros lynch.
What do you think, Alo?
And Paragon also
What about your Paragon clear?
I don't understand why you would be okay with a Paragon lynch.
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:33 am

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In post 2592, Taly wrote:
In post 2562, Churros wrote:
In post 2558, Aloratom wrote:In my eyes it has to be the Bulletproof or the Neapolitan that doesn't exist.

I'm really coming around to [Eyestott/Churros], [Paragon/Eyestott], [Paragon/Churros].
You say that either the BP or Nea that doesn't exist but you're putting me in two different scum teams and not mentioning Taly at all?
They don't want to call me scum because they know I'll bury them.

That's why they spent this game telling me I had good points but not actually acting on them because they were accurate, and they knew it.
I’m town, so I know that’s wrong


What do you say to THAT, huh?
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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:33 am

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In post 2593, Aloratom wrote:
In post 2590, eyestott wrote:I feel confident in a Churros lynch.
What do you think, Alo?
And Paragon also
What about your Paragon clear?
No, I’m asking you both about a Churros lynch
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:34 am

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In post 2594, Taly wrote:
In post 2591, eyestott wrote:
In post 2588, Taly wrote:It's kind of weird, if you've always suspected I fakeclaimed, why were you content with me jumping into your pocket?

Need me to send you the posts as a reminder?
Can you explain what “me jumping into your pocket” means?
I townread you thinking you had no reason to want a claim as scum.

But you didn't argue this, yet you seem to believe that my PR claim is false from the beginning, or at least potentially.

If you believed my claim was false, why didn't you try to clear
Churros'
again? You still avoid this question.
Clear churros by targeting him with my investigation?
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 2561, eyestott wrote:Alora, Neapolitan doesn’t work how you think it works


Scum Churros will return a result of not a vannjjla townie
PR Churros will return a result of not a vanilla townie
Why would I target him?
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