Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

[Ginngie]

Votecount

Bulbazak- 4 (Alisae, MariaR, gobbledygook, Pine)

L - 3

Pine- 2 (xRECKONERx, Lady Lambdadelta)

L - 5

Aristophanes- 2 (Dunnstral, Bulbazak)

L - 5

Dunnstral- 1 (PenguinPower)

L - 6

PenguinPower- 1 (Bingle)

L - 6

Not Voting - 13 MINUS THE NUMBERS ABOVE ADDED FUCK THIS PART (The Rest of you fucks)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Day One's deadline is Monday, April 27th, @ 10:00 PM EST: (expired on 2020-04-27 22:00:00).

chronic masturbaters
-xRECKONERx
-Bulbazak
-PenguinPower
-Taly
-Pink Ball
-Bingle
-Aristophanes
-gobbledygook

[Pink Ball]

OH SHIT

[Bingle]

Bulbazak- 4 (Alisae, MariaR, gobbledygook, Pine)

L - 3

Pine- 2 (xRECKONERx, Lady Lambdadelta)

L - 5

Dunnstral- 1 (PenguinPower)

L - 6

Aristophanes- 1 (Dunnstral)

L - 6

gobbledygook- 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

PenguinPower- 1 (Bingle)

L - 6

Not Voting - 3 (Taly, Pink Ball, Mr. Stophanes)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

I need to hear from all of PP/Dunn/Taly/PB/Stophanes about their current votes and where they'd be willing to compromise.

Bulb is excluded because he's talked about the enter/gobbles scumread, but I would be interested in hearing his thoughts on other peoples.

[Pink Ball]

OH FUCK I TRIED

[Pink Ball]

MOD ABUSE I REPEAT MOD ABUSE

[Bingle]

I have heard that people tried. Not sure where from though.

[gobbledygook]

3 reasons, gobble:

1. We need universal agreement.
2. People (like you, just now) keep yolosturbating out of order.
3. Given the situation of {Don't think I can get universal participation today} AND the situation of {I think the trustworthiness of the claim will be easier to analyze with further data} I'm putting off choosing the obvtown to pick the order and letting people masturbate until we're collectively ready to do so.

No you don’t.
I didn’t.
Why do you need to trust the claim?

[Bingle]

does it bother anyone else that my suit cant seem to stay the same color consistently

Your suit seems monochromatic to me. I would like to compliment you on your skill and variety of tie changes though.

[Pink Ball]

@Bingle let me see that official votecount by our sweet mercyful mod and I'll answer your compromise thing.

Spoiler alert: I'm voting you for asking for a compromise when you recently voted someone without any votes instead of joining one of the formed wagons.

[Bingle]

No you don’t.
I didn’t.
Why do you need to trust the claim?

Nothing happens unless every towny masturbates according to the claim.
782
The argument against doing the dirty today is that it could be game ending or massively scumsided, which should be more apparent after a day. Further, mastina's unlikely to die and so sorting it isn't necessary today anyway.

I've explained this before, check my ISO.

[Ginngie]

@Bingle let me see that official votecount by our sweet mercyful mod and I'll answer your compromise thing.

Spoiler alert: I'm voting you for asking for a compromise when you recently voted someone without any votes instead of joining one of the formed wagons.

updated in 801

[Bingle]

Spoiler alert: I'm voting you for asking for a compromise when you recently voted someone without any votes instead of joining one of the formed wagons.

Go for it.

It won't go anywhere, both because I can literally kill myself this game and because I also just cased the person I'm voting, but go for it.

On another note, I don't know why PB is set to be lynched. If this is a hidden mechanic then it's slight town equity for PB (punishing scum for town not getting their shit together is :/).

[Pink Ball]

VOTE: Bingle

Not anymore

[Pink Ball]

Wait don't kill yourself that's not fair what about my revenge

[Bingle]

I guess we'll just have to keep playing together, buddy.

[gobbledygook]

No you don’t.
I didn’t.
Why do you need to trust the claim?

Nothing happens unless every towny masturbates according to the claim.
782
The argument against doing the dirty today is that it could be game ending or massively scumsided, which should be more apparent after a day. Further, mastina's unlikely to die and so sorting it isn't necessary today anyway.

I've explained this before, check my ISO.

1. I understand that. You are all thinking about it wrong and honestly I am surprised and annoyed Mastina played the role this way. We should use this as a way to get 1 single confscum, or 1 single conftown. Not to try to get a coalition. Just force the people who haven’t yet masturbated to not masturbate until we have decided something to do. I think most of the remaining non-masterbators are players that the majority of people have trouble reading and so making one of them confscum or conftown is a net win for us. My suggestion is that we collectively choose who should masturbate once each real life say until just a day or two before the deadline.
2. I said what I said to test the limits of masturbation. I purposefully did not use the word masturbation to see what the mod would count. It appears he counted that even though I wouldn’t have thought he would. It is better I’m not confirmed town anyway because I have high nightkill equity in this playerlist.
3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

[gobbledygook]

Until further notice, any masturbation by people who did not already masturbate will be treated as a scum claim.

[Pine]

Oh, I meant to answer bulb too.

Yes, I have a plan for the masturbation, but I kinda already shared it.

We pick a player who is a universal tr, and they choose the order for the rest of the players to masturbate with the scummiest players going last. Turbo lynch anyone who masturbates out of order. Do all of this tomorrow/when we agree we're willing to bet the game on mastina not being game ending. I don't think we're likely to get universal cooperation (which is necessary) and there's a not inconsiderable portion of me that thinks analyzing scum's nightkill choice is more useful without giving them a claim order.

I am not willing to bet the game on this, I hereby veto this plan.

Why why WHY are people ready to bet the game on their fucking HUNCHES? Mastina/Reck is a third party slot. I immediately don't give a flying fucking shit about their wincon, and absolutely everything out of their mouth should be regarded as one step short of a Guilty Child Treestump.

Thank you for playing our game, Reck, but Mastina shot you in the foot by admitting to being a third party.

Yeah.... The remaining 6 are unlikely to go for anything anyway. We probably could have learned a lot otherwise.

Maybe? But only if Mastina was telling the truth, which we have no evidence towards. Again, I'm sorry I'm not risking the game for a tiny advantage, especially as scum are the most likely to have already jumped on the wagon.

Take it from me - there's no downside to taking Mastina up on her offer as scum. None. Some Townie (like me) will hold the line, and render it a moot point.

[Pine]

Sup turkey. It would have been nice if you hadn't done that.

[Bingle]

3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

Why does using it Day 1 matter?

I think there's information to be gained in whether scum chooses to kill on or off wagon, so to speak. I also think there's a potential for a powerful town if it is indeed a scumsided mechanic, and delaying reck slot's departure isn't inherently bad, because he's bulletproof and scum using a strongman there instead of on a potentially useful town player isn't the worst result in the world.

You're also misunderstanding the claim.

It doesn't confirm one player as scum, ever.

If accurately claimed, the last player to masturbate is always town. if we number the player list from 1-13 and masturbate in that order, and 12 and 13 are both scum, it confirms 11 as town and BOTH 12 AND 13 as scum. Which is why yolosturbating is bad. Baaaaaaaaaad.

[gobbledygook]

Sup turkey. It would have been nice if you hadn't done that.

Hadn’t done what?

[gobbledygook]

3. Why does it matter? So what if we just autolose day 1? We move on with our lives if that’s true (highly unlikely because that’s a dumb as rocks mechanic that I don’t think Ginngie would include). If it is scumsided we won’t know day 2, or day 3, or day whatever until the game is over. That’s a bad argument.

Why does using it Day 1 matter?

I think there's information to be gained in whether scum chooses to kill on or off wagon, so to speak. I also think there's a potential for a powerful town if it is indeed a scumsided mechanic, and delaying reck slot's departure isn't inherently bad, because he's bulletproof and scum using a strongman there instead of on a potentially useful town player isn't the worst result in the world.

You're also misunderstanding the claim.

It doesn't confirm one player as scum, ever.

If accurately claimed, the last player to masturbate is always town. if we number the player list from 1-13 and masturbate in that order, and 12 and 13 are both scum, it confirms 11 as town and BOTH 12 AND 13 as scum. Which is why yolosturbating is bad. Baaaaaaaaaad.

And you think scum are going to let that happen? Lol

[Pine]

Here's the critical failure point: If we did this, it always ALWAYS goes to the last person, because scum NEVER allow themselves to be left out, which ALWAYS means we risk everything for nothing.

It's an absolute shit gamble. I agree that it's low-order probability that we lose to Reck here, but it's an even lower probability that we get anything for our trouble.

PE: YOLOsturbated.

[Bingle]

2. I said what I said to test the limits of masturbation. I purposefully did not use the word masturbation to see what the mod would count. It appears he counted that even though I wouldn’t have thought he would. It is better I’m not confirmed town anyway because I have high nightkill equity in this playerlist.

Why?

What do you have to gain by figuring out how to not masturbate when we already know how to masturbate? What benefit do you gain by testing instead of simply asking Gingie?

[gobbledygook]

Current nomination for the person to be last to do it is Pine