On the Flying Scumsman (Abandoned)

[Blake X Yang]

When you assume that there isn't a first place award, my play was always correct.

I had no reason to assume that the $100 would be given by default, since the only event I played in before this one was the Blackjack one, which did not have any reward for first place.

-Blake

Again it was a rerun so you had a previous data set to look at. Not too concerned about this because this is probably an anti-scum tell but it's silly.

-Latios

I paid no attention to the events before the ones I played in.

The first event I had joined didn't have a first place prize. Everybody had their own cash payout.

The second event was shown to have individual cash payouts, and there was no mention of a first place payout.

I maintain that in these conditions, it was reasonable to assume that there was no first place prize, and therefore my play was correct from my own point of view.

This doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things and I was never that upset about it in the first place, but it still is an oversight that potentially shifted the outcome of that event.

-Blake

[Flavortown]

Your head has it, it's deb, nl-slot, and like something else somewhere

Was I in an event with one of you?

I’m a commuter, dude.

[Flavortown]

We can test it toDay by actively having them join an event with the remaining uninflected players.

If people don’t spam the /in

[Fahrenheit]

This game is remarkably boring. Key is still sleeping I think. More people should vote Egospray, who is probably just mafia.

- Eddie

[Latias and Latios]

Sheep

1 response per hydra please

I will ask 10 questions, for which you'll have to PM me answers. The Answer with the most answers that are the same will earn those hydras a point. The hydra with the most points at the end of 10 questions will win a prize.
In case of a tie, we will do a tiebreaker round (those who lost will still be needed)
I will post the results when everyone has submitted or day ends.
Please remember all related event rules.

1. Do you like your role?
A. Yes
B. No

2. Do you like playing this game?
A. Yes
B. No

3. What was your favorite event?

4. What is your prefered alignment
A. Town
B. Scum
C. 3rd Party

5. if you could, would you shoot Ali
A. Yes
B. No

6. Who is your favorite hydra to play with in this game

7. Is your alignment going to win the game

8. Who would win in a fight between Alisae and jjh927
A. Alisae
B. Jjh927
C. Neither, they couldn't hurt a fly
D. Frozen Angel

9. Have you considered murdering your hydra partner for insurance money
A. Yes
B. No

10. Which is better- the day 1 shop or the day 2 shop?
A. Day 1
B. Day 2
C. Neither

IN ADDITION to these question, you can also answer this optional question. This will not count towards the sheep.

11. For cards against humanity, give me 1 black card and 2 white cards.

I just looked at the mod ISO because I thought there was an event

Probably wasn't going to be one but can I just issue a "fuck you" for running one outside of the established times?

-Latios

[Disaster Artists]

Was I in an event with one of you?

I’m a commuter, dude.

oh right you were in an event on day 1 but not with me, forgot

were you only in one event so far?

So what you're saying is that lynching you is a necessary step to furthering DRK's 3rd party wincon? SIGN ME UP! :3

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

anyway

My slot is functionally third party. To be clear, both of our heads have town wincons, but drk's head also has a 3p wincon. That wincon is now 90% complete and should be resolved no matter what. We are 'old people with coronavirus'. coronavirus does not harm players in the game, but when 100% of the game is infected drk wins. We spread by participating in events so now everyone that was in an event with us will spread to everyone they visit at night and when that hits everyone drk's head just wins. That's now... Almost everyone, only a few lurker/afk heads left

My head is an 'old person' and I die at the start of night 3, so next dayphase is my last. I'm probably skipping most of the next day since I don't think there's any point getting money when I will die before I use it so this game is functionally over for me.

I have been townsiding. Imperium is hypertown in pt.

I did want to say this though since there was confusion over how multiple wincons on heads could work. I believe that while every hydra has to have both heads having at least one of the main wincon, other heads can have *additional* wincons

This game is probably a little more bastard than I thought as a result and I also just kinda lost interest in mafia since boon's game was a level of hyperstupid that I no longer really feel like playing mafia but I'm not gonna sub out to make someone take a slot that auto dies before they can do anything

Drk also never even wanted to play this game and she hasn't warmed up to it. I think she has a dayvig on bugspray which I'm gonna see if I can use on her behalf, so george doesn't feel so jealous of their pt which is apparently mostly chess and bugspray being scummy

lolwut?

-Mikoto

[The Searchers]

Not much has changed. I kinda want to go back to egospray because I agree with Ircher that them disappearing with the pressure going away is scummy.

SC

[Fahrenheit]

Gonna need to digest that 3rd party wincon tbh

So I'm still picking up on the gist of things. From what I've read so far, I personally think the M&K public night action speculation is more towny than not. Scum have a better place to be speculating than the game thread, and this early on they probably risk revealing too much about their own actions if they spend too much time focusing on teasing apart complicated night actions.

Does anyone have anything they want me/us to focus on coming in?


- Key

Isn't he supposed to lose the points he earned if he succumbs to the "risk"?
His analysis reeks, he assumes the default Black Hole Army CO Power that kills full Tag Teams got downgraded to only killing one CO due to a power we don't know about, and someone else killed Tag Team Spiffybringer.
The same deaths can be explained by public data if any CO bought and used the Kill1CO Power from Hachi's shop yesterday, and the default Black Hole Army CO Power was aimed at Tag Team Spiffybringer or his Bodyguard CO Power target.
The leap past the best public data explanation suggests private data.
I disagree with CO Farkran about similar topics, so it may just be his foolishness, but analysis that's nothing like my own uninformed reconstructions def shouldn't earn him anything. My impressions were similar to CO John Cena's, that something like a suicide must have occurred (since CO Silver Bullet had apparently used up his CO Power and CO Hectic had not).

I appreciate this formatting. Tag teams = hydras, COs = heads? Not sure what points are, or if they're just brownie points.

My impression isn't based on the conclusion - I don't have an opinion on that at this point. It's that to me they seemed to be continuing speculation beyond any return they might be getting from it. Scum have private information they presumably don't want to out so soon before they know about the setup, and if they're making shit up, there are potentially several power roles who know their conclusion is at least partly wrong. There's not a lot of payoff.

It depends on the player and I don't know Farkran, but this attempt to iron things out seems pretty town motivated to me.

ok let's see if my phone eats this post as well!

-Key

[popsofctown]

Yes, brownie points.

[Black Hole Defection]

Yes, brownie points.

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

readlist

CONFIDENT TOWN

Smol Might (Eragon and Shadowlesscloud)
Spiffybringer (Spiffeh and Firebringer)

Hectic
Black Hole Defection (popsofctown and Prism)
Imperium (Nachomamma8 and Tammy)

REASONABLY TOWN
Latias and Latios (Chemist1422 and Gamma Emerald)
Despair Night (JunkoChan and insomnia)
Equitable Androids (Gobbledygook and Titus)
Disaster Artists (John Cena and DeathRowKitty)
Flavortown (Dr Easy Bake and Flavor Leaf)
Egospray (bugspray and GeorgeBailey)

LYNCHABLE/SCUM
NL (GuyInFreezer and MariaR) = Farenheit (Eddie and Key)
Feminist Blocc (Datisi and Ausuka)
Unapologetically Foxy (Pine and xofelf)
The Searchers (SirCakez and Ircher)
Blake x Yang (Alyssa the Lamb and Taly)

I'm roughly here, doing a readlist to recap my thoughts. I'm not confident enough as to claim the full solve is in the lynchable pool, but definitely confident enough to say there is more than 1 scum among those. I disagree strongly with Blake VCA and i'm much more in line with equitable androids VCA.

I don't understand the wagons on egospray. There is a claim and a towny slot to vouch for that claim. I see nobody doubting hectic towniness except perhaps Unapologetically Foxy. To be honest, unless somebody steps up and claims to have vigshot the pinkball head, i'm not changing my mind there.

I think DA claim makes sense, i would expect someone sending coronavirus as their pick, and roles are most definitely built around picks - could also be scum, but is easily verified so i don't care.

More votes on foxy should appear.

-Farkran

[Blake X Yang]

I'm getting that political posting sense again.

-Blake

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

And you are still wrong and offering gratuitous shade or waving counterarguments to shut down my posts - you are failing to make the easiest logical connections while reading what i write and you're not that dense of a player when it comes to that. I am actually denser than you, and i would still get what is going on by simple means of

asking

, which you are avoiding with great care - this makes me believe you're doing it on purpose, and it's not town motivated.

I'll always be happy to flip you as soon as there is interest.

-Farkran

[Blake X Yang]

You're doing a remarkable job of taking the safe route to any situation, Farkran.

Your list of townreads are people nobody is contesting.
Your scumreads and lynchable list includes one of the only two slots that have had scumreads on you this game, the slot that hasn't been around, the other slot that hasn't been around, the slot with the most content that isn't universally townread, and the slot with a player that openly isn't playing combined with a notably easy push player.

The blunt truth is that you have not done anything significantly town this game. I'm strongly questioning your decision to park on a vanity vote towards the end of day one followed by an apathy wagon. Not only this, but you defending the counter wagon by VCA when they had literally responded to my pressure by stating that every wagon outside of the lynch wagon was a vanity wagon is absolutely asinine.

I'm not convinced these events are doing more than damaging town's chances of winning now that I think about it.

-Blake

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

And you are doing a remarkable job twisting my motivation to out my thoughts and analysis, expecting that i would do so as scum instead of shuttiing up or pushing in the consensus direction when i have nothing to gain by doing otherwise. Your definition of "anything significantly town" is biased and conveniently bent to fit your read on me. I'm ready to 1v1 you whenever you want - facts are on my side and if you were town you would have already realized that.

I am also questioning your decision to vote on lhf and using a VCA which is explicitly made to let you stay out of the lynchpool, being on the wagon yourself. For the record, i don't think all scum were on the wagon, but thinking that only 0-1 scum were on it is even more presumptuous - your position is indefensible, and trying to steer people away from the logic conclusion with such vehemency makes me believe that i am correct on you and that there were 2 to 3 scum on that wagon (plausibly: blake, searchers, FB).

You aren't that blind when town.

-Farkran

[Mikoto and Kuroko]

Engagement is over - i want people to read my posts before following up

-Farkran

[Blake X Yang]

That was a lot of words to say nothing.

I'm impressed.

-Blake

[Equitable Androids]

but thinking that only 0-1 scum were on it is even more presumptuous - your position is indefensible,

It's actually not. I disagree with Blake's position but I could defend it. This is why I set up day 3 with a scum lynch to be confident on VCA. Here, I am not even sure scum were threatened.

~Titus

[Equitable Androids]

VOTE: Equitable Androids

I think I agree with FB that their naked vote on them seemed shady.

-gb

I know it's OMGUS but I'd vote this. He implies my vote in 2855 is naked, when I put my rationale when trying to persuade Cakez. He's also changed too from yesterday. He completely ignored my confirmed status of giving money, which is very helpful to town.

The wagon as a whole makes me think scum know they aren't getting money.

~Titus

[The Searchers]

I don't like Mikoto & Kuroko's reads list. Also, as to why our vote is currently on their slot--something feels off about their slot. Like considering each post individually, their ISO seems perfectly fine, but when looking at it from a holistic perspective, there is something off, and I'n not definite what it is. They also acted somewhat defensively to our vote. That isn't condemning, but it is something.

That said, unless egospray comes in and claims something that is likely to be town-aligned, I think that is where we will want to lynch. They have yet to do anything this day phase to lessen our suspicion, and it really feels like they are taking advantage of diverted attention to do as little as possible. Aside from their private claim, I would really appreciate if someone who is townreading them explains how their ISO is an Orange Star ISO rather than a scum ISO.
~Ircher

[Equitable Androids]

Titus pinged me that there was a hydra event or something, so I am here. I haven't read the last 80 pages though

[Blake X Yang]

Why have you been absent, gobble?

-Blake

[Equitable Androids]

Why have you been absent, gobble?

-Blake

I have a semi conftownable role and a hydra partner so I don't really feel the need to post. I am going to treat this game like a replacement game because I think my playstyle lends itself better to that

[Equitable Androids]

This page has been highly enlightening. I have learned that my n1 action is most likely useless. I think DA's wincon stuff is a lie. I hate 3220 because it looks super fencesitty.
Blake is there a hydra event or something going on? I have stuff to do right now