Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Pine]

...other than the game he linked

*facepalm*

To be fair, I was barely in that game. I proddodged through D1, then D2 caught Cephrir, and barely interacted with Vecna.

[Blake Belladonna]

When was the last time we were TvT?

[Pine]

You and I? Uhhh, kind of hard to say, given our mutual proclivities for alt-ing.

[VaultDweller]

@Mod I'm V/LA from tomorrow and will only be back on Tuesday

[Blake Belladonna]

Oh, right.

Titus v Alisae.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.9

Battle Mage (4) - Morning Tweet, iDanyboy, GuiltyLion, farside22
Drixx (4) - Vecna, Blake Belladonna, VaultDweller, Pine
Elsa Jay (3) - Almost50, davesaz, BBmolla
iDanyboy (2) - Battle Mage, Elsa Jay
Vecna (2) - Drixx, Hectic
GuiltyLion (2) - Gamma Emerald, Albert B. Rampage
Pine (2) - GeorgeBailey, pisskop
farside22 (1) - xtoxm
Hectic (1) - momo

Not voting (0)

(expired on 2020-05-01 15:10:00) remain until day end

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to reach a majority.

VaultDweller is V/LA through Tuesday, April 28.
Hectic is V/LA through Friday, April 24.
Battle Mage is V/LA through Thursday, April 23.

"Find the path through the razor-wire to the door. But hurry. At three o'clock that door will lock and then this room becomes your tomb. How much blood will you shed to stay alive, Paul?"

[farside22]

I don’t think I - nope, I didn’t stutter.

I was just surprised.

So fun fact I looked at the game Drixx referenced and he did fight with a player that was scum. He voted and kept his vote on that player and from what I saw he did say a player was scum helping there buddy (I didn't see if the player was that players buddy) but all that said there are differences.
Most important was the case on Venca was built on something that didn't occur and Drixx hasn't really followed up pushing the scum read with anything really valid.
So it didn't change my view on Drixx in this game.

*looks at time left in day for game*

I can wait.

[davesaz]

I think 567 wins over 564, no question.

Davesaz is also scum. 567 is not a good case.

I'm not convinced you actually read the two posts that I pointed to.
564 is Albert saying that Tweet's case is

only

an OMGUS.
Tweet's 567 totally refutes Albert by showing that a non-OMGUS case

exists

.

My post says nothing about whether it's a good case. Albert was wrong is what my post says.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think 567 wins over 564, no question.

Davesaz is also scum. 567 is not a good case.

I'm not convinced you actually read the two posts that I pointed to.
564 is Albert saying that Tweet's case is

only

an OMGUS.
Tweet's 567 totally refutes Albert by showing that a non-OMGUS case

exists

.

My post says nothing about whether it's a good case. Albert was wrong is what my post says.

Wrong. It still is pretty much "his reasons for voting me are bad therefore he's scum + here's a timeline of things he posted which I disagree with but have no evidence to point to that makes him scum

[davesaz]

That's still a judgment call on whether the case is good or bad, it is not what you originally said which was there was no case.
If someone gives reasons that I don't agree with, I don't say it's not a case at all, I say specifically what I disagree with. To do otherwise robs town of the information we need to make good decisions.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There is no case. The analysis is so thin it could inspires a crack whore to diet. OMGUS, pure and simple. Drixx and BM are town. I'd like to see bandwagons on other players.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No bandwagons = no info day 2 after flips.

[Morning Tweet]

I think 567 wins over 564, no question.

Davesaz is also scum. 567 is not a good case.

I'm not convinced you actually read the two posts that I pointed to.
564 is Albert saying that Tweet's case is

only

an OMGUS.
Tweet's 567 totally refutes Albert by showing that a non-OMGUS case

exists

.

My post says nothing about whether it's a good case. Albert was wrong is what my post says.

Wrong. It still is pretty much "his reasons for voting me are bad therefore he's scum + here's a timeline of things he posted which I disagree with but have no evidence to point to that makes him scum

can't even say you were wrong about it being only OMGUS =,=

Not only that, but you won't go into why Drixx and BM are town, either.

You want everyone to vote GL because you find him scummy and anyone who disagrees is obstructing the town's ability to lynch nonrandomly, but the only case i can see that you have against GL is that his reads were "phoned in" too early. It's not something that especially bothers me. correct me if im wrong

No bandwagons = no info day 2 after flips.

i see absolutely no reason we should bandwagon GL over the other two. You constantly argue as if we're against bandwagons, when the actual decision to make isn't "Do we bandwagon" vs. "Do we not bandwagon", it's "WHO do we bandwagon".

should the entire town sheep your reads just because you want to take a leading role?

[Albert B. Rampage]

The town can't decide WHO to wagon because there's no evidence, there's no evidence because there's no bandwagons. I'm willing to lynch others outside GL/Vecna. I'm not lynching BM/Drixx they are my top 2 town reads based on a vast amount of experience with them.

Who do you want to lynch besides those 2?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You want to vote George? There's 21 players, every town player needs to open up their lynch pool. It takes a minimum of cooperation and compromise to win the day.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Most likely not in cahoots w/ jigsaw //
GeorgeBailey
iDanyboy
GuiltyLion
Almost50
Albert B. Rampage

Inclined to think they won’t kill me //
momo
Gamma Emerald
VaultDweller

Don’t know what to think (that's kind of a lie) //
Battle Mage
Hectic
Drixx
pisskop
Elsa Jay

i REALLY don’t know what to think. Like literally. there’s nothing written down //
Pine
davesaz
farside
BBmolla
xtoxm
Blake Belladonna

Definitely (maybe) going to kill all of us //
Vecna. regardless of alignment

WHO IS IN YOUR LYNCH POOL? NAME SIX PLAYERS YOU ARE READY TO LYNCH I GUARANTEE WE WILL FIND COMMON GROUND ON AT LEAST ONE

[Albert B. Rampage]

Xtom? A50? Blake? dave? You have your pick of the litter.

[Morning Tweet]

You want to vote George? There's 21 players, every town player needs to open up their lynch pool. It takes a minimum of cooperation and compromise to win the day.

George reminds me of town!George from a previous game. I agree that for town to lynch we have to cooperate on something mutual

{A50, George, iDany, Vecna} are my favourite town, and I have some kinds of leans on {Vault, ABR, Gamma, momo, EJ, farside} town.

i suppose that you're vying for my vote because you townread me, which makes sense from a townie standpoint. The current main wagons are BM, Drixx, and EJ. The best way for me to free my vote up would be if i decided that the drixx/bm slots were not worthy of my vote anymore.

I am willing to work with you on a compromise, but the current wagons and our reads being clashing is unfortunate for that. is there anyone besides george you'd like a large wagon on?

pedit: BARRING BM/DRIXX, I WOULD WORK WITH YOU ON XTOM, DAVE, BB, HECTIC, or BLAKE

They're all similar levels of absence of town for me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

XTOM, DAVE, BB, HECTIC, or BLAKE

Anyone here except Hectic works for me, can you rank them for me please?

[Morning Tweet]

XTOM, DAVE, BB, HECTIC, or BLAKE

Anyone here except Hectic works for me, can you rank them for me please?

in order where scummiest is at the top

dave
BB
Xtom
Blake

For dave it's not even that i disagree with the content of his posts, he just seems different this game

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah, if you lead a dave bandwagon I will be on it, sure. Would love to get dave lynched.

[GuiltyLion]

I think ABR pushing Vecna but never voting him is scummy and would like to know if anyone agrees or disagrees. Its the strongest read I have so would like to get some discussion on it.

I agree with this, ABR's vote on me has felt extremely 'sticky', like he decided on it early on and refuses to see or engage with any evidence of me being town. I would expect a town player to at least have some doubt regarding my alignment and spend some time more seriously pursuing other leads, especially if they're so bored/against the current game state

[Morning Tweet]

Yeah, if you lead a dave bandwagon I will be on it, sure. Would love to get dave lynched.

i'll consider doing that after BM posts more so i can get a better read on him

I think ABR pushing Vecna but never voting him is scummy and would like to know if anyone agrees or disagrees. Its the strongest read I have so would like to get some discussion on it.

I agree with this, ABR's vote on me has felt extremely 'sticky', like he decided on it early on and refuses to see or engage with any evidence of me being town. I would expect a town player to at least have some doubt regarding my alignment and spend some time more seriously pursuing other leads, especially if they're so bored/against the current game state

i inclined to think that this is just the way he plays as town or scum, but i haven't checked his meta or anything. it's a fair observation at least

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think ABR pushing Vecna but never voting him is scummy and would like to know if anyone agrees or disagrees. Its the strongest read I have so would like to get some discussion on it.

I agree with this, ABR's vote on me has felt extremely 'sticky', like he decided on it early on and refuses to see or engage with any evidence of me being town. I would expect a town player to at least have some doubt regarding my alignment and spend some time more seriously pursuing other leads, especially if they're so bored/against the current game state

Yeah, if you lead a dave bandwagon I will be on it, sure. Would love to get dave lynched.

i'll consider doing that after BM posts more so i can get a better read on him

I think ABR pushing Vecna but never voting him is scummy and would like to know if anyone agrees or disagrees. Its the strongest read I have so would like to get some discussion on it.

I agree with this, ABR's vote on me has felt extremely 'sticky', like he decided on it early on and refuses to see or engage with any evidence of me being town. I would expect a town player to at least have some doubt regarding my alignment and spend some time more seriously pursuing other leads, especially if they're so bored/against the current game state

i inclined to think that this is just the way he plays as town or scum, but i haven't checked his meta or anything. it's a fair observation at least

Get in, we're lynching Dave.

VOTE: dave

[farside22]

XTOM, DAVE, BB, HECTIC, or BLAKE

Anyone here except Hectic works for me, can you rank them for me please?

in order where scummiest is at the top

dave
BB
Xtom
Blake

For dave it's not even that i disagree with the content of his posts, he just seems different this game

I'd be down for dave or Xtoxm on this list.
i would love to know more about your George town read. I just dont see anything that reads town.