Mini 2127 - Fairly Special [Game Over]

[gobbledygook]

Also PK “tracked” Alimidia nowhere, I don’t think PK claims something confirmable like that unless he knows he can

[Churros]

Yes, I'm entertaining Egix being actually the tracker and they swapped because pisskop couldn't claim any confirmable PR to save himself since he was basically "Strongman Mafioso".

I don't see why he would claim Tracker if they weren't able to have any results they could show up.

Alternatively they had other means to know Ali hadn't targeted anyone in N1, or Ali himself is a buddy, but it would be...pretty stupid from him to only depend on his partners for his "targets".

I think most likely than not they could produce some kind of results to fake being a tracker otherwise they could have claimed jailkeeper or something else.

Anything would be better than a Tracker fakeclaim in a role madness game where almost everyone (or everyone) has night actions.

I'm gonna assume they are smarter than that.

[Churros]

Egix being actually the tracker

If not tracker something similar enough that could claim "results"

That's what I meant by "something just clicked".

[Titus]

My bet is it was funneled through EP, not Egix. Remember Pisskop implied he had more shots. That doesn't happen if Egix dies.

But let's flip Egix then I die. EP coasts. Sounds good?

[Churros]

If you're locking your read on EP I could entertain sheeping you today rather than defaulting to Egix.

I must say I'm interested in how much fire your reads have. I'm beginning, and only beginning to be honest, to get impressed, and if EP is a stronger read than Egix, maybe we should go there.

You said PK was your strongest read and we didn't hear you. I can hear you now for today, it isn't LyLo either way.

Are you locking that read? Are you as confident on it as you were in PK and Shuichi?

Same methods?

[EspressoPatronum]

My bet is it was funneled through EP, not Egix. Remember Pisskop implied he had more shots. That doesn't happen if Egix dies.

But let's flip Egix then I die. EP coasts. Sounds good?

I'm a proven flavour revealer. How do you propose I "funneled" information to pisskop for his fake tracker claim?

How has any of my gameplay been coasting thus far? Since it hasn't, why do you assume I would start coasting after Egix dies?

[EspressoPatronum]

If you're locking your read on EP I could entertain sheeping you today rather than defaulting to Egix.

I must say I'm interested in how much fire your reads have. I'm beginning, and only beginning to be honest, to get impressed, and if EP is a stronger read than Egix, maybe we should go there.

You said PK was your strongest read and we didn't hear you. I can hear you now for today, it isn't LyLo either way.

Are you locking that read? Are you as confident on it as you were in PK and Shuichi?

Same methods?

Sheeping Titus yesterday would have "cleared" pk due to the fake JOAT and likely resulted in my death. Sheeping her onto me today probably won't lose the game, as we likely have one mislynch left, but it will certainly set you back tomorrow. You'll be down one of the most vocal town AND your mason, leaving gobble to run the show.

I'm also VERY interested to hear whatever methods Titus has employed to scum read me so hard. The best I can tell, she's confusing her distaste for my gameplay with a scumread.

[Churros]

Fair point, but I still want to hear from Titus.

Whatever I'll decide is another question though, sure.

[alimdia]

V excited for the full claim today.

That would just get conf townies killed. This isn't lylo right? so why massclaim?

Considering your most recent questions to Egix and eyestott, you're most of the way to wanting a mass claim, too. But to answer your question, I have two reasons to claim today.

1)

A Mech Solve

we have a proven duplicator (gobble), flavour revealer (me), and treestumper (Churros). We also likely have some sort of watcher (Egix), role flavourer (eyestott), an unclaimed mason, and an unknown role. There's probably a mech solve in there somewhere. Delaying the massclaim makes any potential solves harder to execute if they require us to confirm claimed actions. The downside to a claim is, as you said, that it puts our PRs at risk.

Gobble mentioned this earlier, but we really should be using his role to help solve. I don't know why Egix has 'watched' anyone else but gobble tbh. We can offset the dangers of a potential scum!gobble by leashing his role.

2)

Fake Claims

In addition to the mech solve potential, forcing scum to commit to fakeclaims can be useful. It gives them less wiggle room in the future. Looking back through pk's ISO, his tracker claim and supposed night actions were sus (specifically his Churros track), but we didn't scrutinize his claim well enough.

Even if everyone doesn't mass claim today, eyestott absolutely needs to fullclaim. Something doesn't add up with him, and I'd like to figure that out today.

This game is so so messy from the gambit lol

We can't be certain of the extent of the gambit and/or whether it was actually a gambit at all. I'm waiting until alimdia weighs in before jumping to conclusions.

Me weighing in on what? I already said enough yesterday.

You weighing in on whether the guilty was fake +/ how you knew Eve was town.

Genuine question - are you witholding information for the sake of it, or are you protecting information that is damaging to town if it gets out? If it's the former, you witholding the information may prevent us from comboing your role with another. If it's the latter, nothing I say will really matter because it'll be a judgment call for you.

we have a proven duplicator (gobble), flavour revealer (me), and treestumper (Churros). We also likely have some sort of watcher (Egix), role flavourer (eyestott), an unclaimed mason

Other than the mason, none of the above are confirmed town roles

It doesn't take prior nights into account.
So pkop was visited n1.

by who, I havent heard of a watcher like this before

[alimdia]

ill claim after work


did egix claim?

[alimdia]

My claim will def open a huge can of worms lol

[EspressoPatronum]

[...]
did egix claim?

Not yet

My claim will def open a huge can of worms lol

Looking forward to it!

[alimdia]

Before I full claim, I'd like Egix to go first.

[alimdia]

I will also say that I've never been so confused with ppl's shenanigans ever before in my life.

[TemporalLich]

VC 4.2

Egix96 (2) - Titus, gobbledygook [L-2]

Not voting: EspressoPatronum, alimdia, Churros, eyestott, Egix96

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2020-05-09 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

[Egix96]

by who, I havent heard of a watcher like this before

I don't know, that's not what my role tells me.
All it does is, I check someone each night, and see whether or not anyone else targeted them the same night.

N1 - pisskop - he was targeted
N2 - eyestott - he was targeted
N3 - Chilled

[Egix96]

Egix, are you claiming Watcher or Voyeur, basically?

You say you can see if someone was targeted, but do you see who targeted or not?

Do you learn what kind of actions was used on the person?

I'm like a voyeur that doesn't get action types, if that makes sense.

[Churros]

Hmm.

Who is scum Egix? You haven't voiced any reads yet.

If you plan to re:read before, when?

don't you have any guts either?

[Churros]

V/LA through Friday/Saturday/Monday

[Titus]

I'll post VCA details later today.

[Egix96]

Hmm.

Who is scum Egix? You haven't voiced any reads yet.

If you plan to re:read before, when?

don't you have any guts either?

VOTE: Alimdia

^ This is whom I'm most sure of, with gobble in second.

I did a quick-and-dirty reread yesterday, as I summarised in 1574.

[Titus]

Hmm.

Who is scum Egix? You haven't voiced any reads yet.

If you plan to re:read before, when?

don't you have any guts either?

VOTE: Alimdia

^ This is whom I'm most sure of, with gobble in second.

I did a quick-and-dirty reread yesterday, as I summarised in 1574.

Notice how Egix still won't go after EP.

[Titus]

VC 1.2

EspressoPatronum (4) - Team STRQ, mastina, Chronos, Egix96
Chronos (2) - eyestott, BP
BSG (1) - EspressoPatronum
Adorable (1) - alimdia
Team STRQ (1) - Rabid Schnauzer
BP (1) - Titus

Not voting: BSG, Shadowlesscloud, Adorable

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-04-02 21:40:44) or when a lynch is reached.

EP wagon...dead dead dead, scum suspect

BP scum is chain sawing Chronos

EP is voting dead slot (BSG is Eve)

VC 1.15

Rabid Schnauzer (3) - momo, mastina, eyestott
EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Titus (2) - Churros, EspressoPatronum
Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
momo (1) - Egix96
Chronos (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 1.16

Rabid Schnauzer (6) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros, EspressoPatronum, pisskop [L-1]

EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
momo (1) - Egix96

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

Scum confirmed preferring an RS over EP.

VC 1.18

Rabid Schnauzer (7) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros, EspressoPatronum, Titus, gobbledygook [LYNCH!]

Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
EspressoPatronum (1) - Rabid Schnauzer
momo (1) - Egix96
mastina (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

Scum EP revotes here once scum PK gets off.

[Titus]

VC 2.5

momo (3) - Sujimichi, Egix96, Churros
pisskop (3) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle
Egix96 (2) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum
gobbledygook (1) - momo

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 15:25:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 2.6

pisskop (4) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve [L-2]

Egix96 (3) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum, momo
momo (2) - Egix96, Churros

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Edit: I have fixed the deadline in this votecount. Sorry for the confusion.

VC 2.7

pisskop (5) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve, Churros [L-1]

Egix96 (3) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum, momo
momo (1) - Egix96

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 2.8

momo (6) - Egix96, eyestott, Churros, pisskop, EspressoPatronum, Titus [LYNCH!]

pisskop (3) - gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve
Egix96 (3) - alimdia, momo

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

@mod is alignment rolled after or before a role is given to a slot here?

just for setup spec sake.

I can't answer this question.

Pisskop wagon avoided by EP, despite deadline. EP throws support behind mono who gets sppedlynched with Pisskop help.

[Titus]

So EP, is this all a major coincidence?

Why should I vote Egix over you?