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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:04 am

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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:06 am

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In post 873, votato wrote:It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.
It seems as if the target was to be janitored, they are doctored and watched.

@Farside - why did you say “when would they flip?” They would flip when they die. Doctor protects people from dying.
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:08 am

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Votato also assumed that scum would be the one to have a janitor, which might have higher town equity. I feel it’s fair to assume town or even third party might have a janitor of some sort.
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:09 am

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Why would town have a janitor? There is no third party.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:11 am

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No clue, I don’t know setup spec. Anti town role. It’s a upick.

Then I guess I’m the off one. It’s okay, I like being the off one.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:12 am

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I’ve got suspicion on Farside.
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:13 am

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886 really rubs me, and not in the right way
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:13 am

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Like - I can see the role fotahdo claimed being a town role. I just don't believe his progression of not understanding -> understanding his role is genuine.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:13 am

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One could even say...the wrong way.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 907, PenguinPower wrote:Like - I can see the role fotahdo claimed being a town role. I just don't believe his progression of not understanding -> understanding his role is genuine.
This I’m okay with.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:32 am

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In post 906, April Ludgate wrote:886 really rubs me, and not in the right way
What about 886 bothers you?
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:33 am

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In post 910, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 906, April Ludgate wrote:886 really rubs me, and not in the right way
What about 886 bothers you?
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 6:35 am

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In post 911, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 910, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 906, April Ludgate wrote:886 really rubs me, and not in the right way
What about 886 bothers you?
Farside
Gotta admit that's quite a compelling case

What about 886 bothers you?
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:20 am

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In post 899, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 886, farside22 wrote:A janitor (doesn't allow a flip)
Yes, this is what it does. I don’t get what you’re saying in this entire post.

Let me bring up Votato’s description
In post 901, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 873, votato wrote:It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.
It seems as if the target was to be janitored, they are doctored and watched.

@Farside - why did you say “when would they flip?” They would flip when they die. Doctor protects people from dying.
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"cleans up the body" after its kill, thus preventing players from learning anything about the player when they flip. At daybreak, it is simply said that the player died with no information about their role or their alignment.
He says he is a doc/watcher. A doc protects a player from dying. Both idea's cancel each other out.
One protects. One provents a players alignment/role to be know. Can you tell me how that is possible for both to be true?
He says it doesn't work unless he is successful so my question being if successful does that mean the person remains like that permanently?
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:25 am

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In post 690, votato wrote:fine. I'm a town night 1-3 combined janitor-doctor watcher.
In post 873, votato wrote:
In post 843, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 830, votato wrote:
My role explains the pieces. I didn't really realize how much i didn't understand it until i had to explain it. It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.
the wording changed too when he described the role claim to how it works.
I mean I would be outguessing the mod but I would have written the role as a modified watcher/doctor and let it be known in the how it is modified in the action column.
Anyone know typically how crazy writes things out?
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:30 am

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In post 902, April Ludgate wrote:Votato also assumed that scum would be the one to have a janitor, which might have higher town equity. I feel it’s fair to assume town or even third party might have a janitor of some sort.
I don't think that it might be fair to assume that third party has a janitor in confirmed 17 players, 13 town, 4 scum settings.
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He usually never puts effort into reads like that, which does sometimes get him scumread, but since he was on an alt and we didn't know his meta, I can see CL!him making reads as an exception since he knows he'll probably be scumread otherwise.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:35 am

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Yet another reason why I don't believe him.

The way he worded it originally means he watches janitor/doctor actions during Nights 1 through 3. His explanation would have been for a Night 1-3 Janitor Combined Doctor-Watcher.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 914, farside22 wrote:
In post 690, votato wrote:fine. I'm a town night 1-3 combined janitor-doctor watcher.
In post 873, votato wrote:
In post 843, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 830, votato wrote:
My role explains the pieces. I didn't really realize how much i didn't understand it until i had to explain it. It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.
the wording changed too when he described the role claim to how it works.
I mean I would be outguessing the mod but I would have written the role as a modified watcher/doctor and let it be known in the how it is modified in the action column.
Anyone know typically how crazy writes things out?
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I think janitor-doctor watcher makes no sense, because the janitor modifier works on both, doctor and watcher. Not just doctor.
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:39 am

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I just feel like Farside is actively saying the role is something that it isn’t?

I already explained how I took the role, and I’m unsure why people are fighting against it.

My cosmic penguin seems to understand the role itself, but he seems to be the only other one, and that’s what is weird to me.

He claimed Janitor Doctor Watcher, and the Doctor watcher only goes through if the target was to be janitored?

Am I incorrect on this somewhere? What’s the issue?

If the person wasn’t going to be janitored, which implies death in its own right, then nothing happens, as usual.

What am I missing?
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 915, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 902, April Ludgate wrote:Votato also assumed that scum would be the one to have a janitor, which might have higher town equity. I feel it’s fair to assume town or even third party might have a janitor of some sort.
I don't think that it might be fair to assume that third party has a janitor in confirmed 17 players, 13 town, 4 scum settings.
Don’t expect me to read the rules and know there isn’t 3rd party! That’s your guy’s job!
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 654, Calvin ānd Hobbes wrote:also the scum tab in the image is clearly a joke because who has a browser open with only two tabs?? Let's be real guys
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:43 am

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How I understand Farside, she didn't understand how "janitor" and "doctor" roles could possibly work together. It was before potato explained his fake claim.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:44 am

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In post 901, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 873, votato wrote:It seems that if my target gets janitored, i heal and watch. If not, i do nothing.
It seems as if the target was to be janitored, they are doctored and watched.

@Farside - why did you say “when would they flip?” They would flip when they die. Doctor protects people from dying.
What I’m not understanding is the part where Farside says “when will they flip?!”

They would flip when they die? I don’t understand why that’s even a comment.

My understanding of the role he claimed is that if someone were to die and be janitored, and he targeted them, he would protect them from dying in the first place thus making the janitor no flip a non issue because the player wouldn’t have died. He would then receive a watcher result.

If he doesn’t receive a watcher result, he’d get No Result, and he’d know that his action didn’t go through?

The question I’m asking is if it’s a fake claim or he actually doesn’t understand the role.

And unless I am mistaken about what the role does, then all of you guys are also misunderstanding the role as well, even after he stated what it does.
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:44 am

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Am I wrong on the order? That’s possible. I read backwards because it makes more sense to read things backwards then upside down.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2020 7:46 am

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I feel like he’s effectively a Cop that gets their result from targeting a Janitored target
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