Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[gibus]

If it doesn't make them more accurate (if said people aren't masons at all), the mafia would waste night kills (on VTs)

[votato]

and i still think copykat is scum

[CopyKat]

and i still think copykat is scum

oh do tell me more

[feathers]

Okay wait before anyone else votes I just want to point out Gibus is one vote away from being lynched. Rn Lilith, Brass, Copykat, and me are voting him. I still suspect him but I don't want a townsperson to get rush lynched without people talking it out first, this is kinda exactly what I was worried about with the 10 day Day 1 limit.

[gibus]

Copykat, I think #275 clarifies it for you?

[brassherald]

Okay wait before anyone else votes I just want to point out Gibus is one vote away from being lynched. Rn Lilith, Brass, Copykat, and me are voting him. I still suspect him but I don't want a townsperson to get rush lynched without people talking it out first, this is kinda exactly what I was worried about with the 10 day Day 1 limit.

Declare intent to hammer before you lynch someone. ALWAYS.

[CopyKat]

Copykat, I think #275 clarifies it for you?

no it doesn't. can you restate your point without playing the pronoun game.

[gibus]

Why is it bad for town to out masons? It can help in elimination so early lynches can be more accurate.

If it doesn't make them more accurate (if said people aren't masons at all), the mafia would waste night kills (on VTs), which would be better for town.

[brassherald]

tinfoil hat theory: formerfish/ironcat scum pair. their back and forth so far is just theater.

I don't like this turnaround to the vote, actually, though.

UNVOTE:

Gibus could be noob, but, I don't know I like being on this wagon if Copykat looks so... mercenary may be the right word?

[feathers]

What does hammer mean? To vote someone, or to make the last vote, or something?

And yeah Brass I already voted on Gibus a while back, and I talked about my intent why then.

[feathers]

Wdym by mercenary?

[CopyKat]

If

it

doesn't make

them

more accurate (if said people aren't masons at all), the mafia would waste night kills (on VTs), which would be better for town.

What is "it"? What are "them"?

[CopyKat]

Gibus could be noob, but, I don't know I like being on this wagon if Copykat looks so... mercenary may be the right word?

You don't think they scum slipped in 264+265?

[gibus]

If -the guess that said people are masons- doesn't make -elimination- more accurate

[brassherald]

What does hammer mean? To vote someone, or to make the last vote, or something?

And yeah Brass I already voted on Gibus a while back, and I talked about my intent why then.

Intent to hammer is basically, when someone is a vote away from being lynched, you state that you intend to put up the final vote and end the day.

Since I'm supposed to be an SE and help teach people the game, my comment was just to not vote but state intent since Gibus was L-1.

He no longer is, but anyone on day 1 that quickhammers (i.e. doesn't state intent first) should be viewed with heavy suspicion.

[brassherald]

Gibus could be noob, but, I don't know I like being on this wagon if Copykat looks so... mercenary may be the right word?

You don't think they scum slipped in 264+265?

Scum slips are very rare, I don't see how these posts are scum slips.

[brassherald]

Wdym by mercenary?

I mean, he seems to be jumping from a full scum team guess to a full move off the same guess too quickly for my liking.

Almost like it doesn't matter who is lynched outside of two people with that speed.

Need more information before the EOD (End of Day) for sure, too.

[votato]

I think Votato is a townsperson as well since pretty early on. They've (what pronoun do you use btw, votato?) been very active, giving pro-town advice (personally they really helped me know how rvs/voting should be done and to form my thought processes), not afraid to make clear stances, and I don't really feel like they're pushing any kind of agenda - they've mostly been helping clarify stances/thought processes or resolve disagreements.

btw: you can use he, she, or it for me. just please never use they.

[feathers]

What does hammer mean? To vote someone, or to make the last vote, or something?

And yeah Brass I already voted on Gibus a while back, and I talked about my intent why then.

Intent to hammer is basically, when someone is a vote away from being lynched, you state that you intend to put up the final vote and end the day.

Since I'm supposed to be an SE and help teach people the game, my comment was just to not vote but state intent since Gibus was L-1.

He no longer is, but anyone on day 1 that quickhammers (i.e. doesn't state intent first) should be viewed with heavy suspicion.

Got it, thanks! And yeah, I just wasn't sure if everyone knew Gibus was one vote away since the last mod post was a while back and CopyKat didn't talk about their vote being the fourth, so I wanted to bring it up.

Wdym by mercenary?

I mean, he seems to be jumping from a full scum team guess to a full move off the same guess too quickly for my liking.

Almost like it doesn't matter who is lynched outside of two people with that speed.

Need more information before the EOD (End of Day) for sure, too.

I see.. but isn't that also what Gibus is doing?

I think Votato is a townsperson as well since pretty early on. They've (what pronoun do you use btw, votato?) been very active, giving pro-town advice (personally they really helped me know how rvs/voting should be done and to form my thought processes), not afraid to make clear stances, and I don't really feel like they're pushing any kind of agenda - they've mostly been helping clarify stances/thought processes or resolve disagreements.

btw: you can use he, she, or it for me. just please never use they.

Understood! I'll use she then if you don't mind.

[CopyKat]

Why is it bad for town to out masons? It can help in elimination so early lynches can be more accurate.

If

the guess that said people are masons

doesn't make

elimination

more accurate, the mafia would waste night kills

ok I guess this makes more sense.

But by your logic does making the "elimination" more accurate mean mafia is less likely to waste night kills?

[votato]

VOTE: copykat. i agree with brass. its mostly gut, but copykat seems pretty opportunistic hopping on the major wagon, putting it to L-1 without saying anything. I also see nothing in copykats case about scumslippng. Not a strong case against copykat, ill concede, but worth pressuring. I still dont like ironcat, but that might just be due to language barrier.

[CopyKat]

I mean, he seems to be jumping from a full scum team guess to a full move off the same guess too quickly for my liking.

It wasn't a serious accusation and I think that's obvious

Almost like it doesn't matter who is lynched outside of two people with that speed.

I'm not following what you mean here

[gibus]

Why is it bad for town to out masons? It can help in elimination so early lynches can be more accurate.

If

the guess that said people are masons

doesn't make

elimination

more accurate, the mafia would waste night kills

ok I guess this makes more sense.

But by your logic does making the "elimination" more accurate mean mafia is less likely to waste night kills?

I understand it does, but since my guess holds no significance, no one is benefitted. It isn't as anti-town as self claiming

[CopyKat]

We also hadn't had a votecount in how many pages so I didn't realize I put them at L-1 but you guys do what you gotta do

[votato]

gibus, just accept that outing town PRs is bad for town and move on. this discussion is not productive at all.