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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 am

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BM I'd almost prefer you forget your flavour-mechanical solve and push me, cause i'm genuinely curious why i'm nearly as scummy as ABR to you

All i know is that you dislike that i mostly just get townreads instead of scumreads + my defense of ABR is 'exceptionally scummy'
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 2848, Morning Tweet wrote:Okay well now i'm feeling better about voting dave
Because if GuiltyLion flips town, you could be lynched tomorrow? A surprisingly honest perspective, but I welcome it. :lol:
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:36 am

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In post 2850, Morning Tweet wrote:BM I'd almost prefer you forget your flavour-mechanical solve and push me, cause i'm
genuinely
curious why i'm nearly as scummy as ABR to you

All i know is that you dislike that i mostly just get townreads instead of scumreads + my defense of ABR is 'exceptionally scummy'
I don't know if you remember, but we lynched Momo on Day 1 for little slips like these? :lol:

I don't buy the pretence of ignorance, you're a smart cookie. :D
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:36 am

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Oh i guess i can save the anticipation of you coming after me for after your solve is proven false, then
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 2842, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2839, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2834, Battle Mage wrote:In terms of play, she has been as scummy as anybody still living with the exception of ABR.
... which game are you reading, lmao

please explain what MT has done that is scum-indicative
saying "please explain" when you know
I've already explained, at length, over the course of numerous posts, is lame
. You're better than that. You're probably the smartest dude in this game. The post above isn't the best illustration of it, and targeting me just because I'm voting for you is pretty cheap.
In post 2847, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2844, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2842, Battle Mage wrote:saying "please explain" when you know I've already explained, at length, over the course of numerous posts, is lame. You're better than that. You're probably the smartest dude in this game. The post above isn't the best illustration of it, and targeting me just because I'm voting for you is pretty cheap.
quote the posts then if you've already explained it, because I don't remember you ever making a good case for scum!MT
It's not my job to go back and quote my own posts for you, it's your job to read them, as you are very capable of doing.

And I never made a case for "scum!MT" as such - as I clearly said in my post which you originally responded to, I said MT's play has been exceptionally scummy, but I don't think she's scum
because I don't think the FBI hood has scum in it. I can't imagine how anyone else who is actually reading the game could come to the conclusion MT is town... :eek:

If my mechanic solve turns out to be completely wrong, I expect MT to be a pretty high priority lynch, but we're a little ways off that.
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so I ask you to explain why you think MT is scum
you say I need to just read your posts where you've explained it at length
I ask you to quote these posts
then you say you never actually made a case for MT as scum explicitly and you think MT is town mechanically

so what were you even on about when you responded to my first question by saying that you already explained
"at length"
why MT is scummy when you don't even claim she's scum now?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:41 am

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In post 2853, Morning Tweet wrote:Oh i guess i can save the anticipation of you coming after me for after your solve is proven false, then
It wasn't too long ago you declared it had already been proven false, but it's pleasing to see you backtrack here. Won't be long until you're in the palm of my hand! :lol:
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 2854, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2842, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2839, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2834, Battle Mage wrote:In terms of play, she has been as scummy as anybody still living with the exception of ABR.
... which game are you reading, lmao

please explain what MT has done that is scum-indicative
saying "please explain" when you know
I've already explained, at length, over the course of numerous posts, is lame
. You're better than that. You're probably the smartest dude in this game. The post above isn't the best illustration of it, and targeting me just because I'm voting for you is pretty cheap.
In post 2847, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2844, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2842, Battle Mage wrote:saying "please explain" when you know I've already explained, at length, over the course of numerous posts, is lame. You're better than that. You're probably the smartest dude in this game. The post above isn't the best illustration of it, and targeting me just because I'm voting for you is pretty cheap.
quote the posts then if you've already explained it, because I don't remember you ever making a good case for scum!MT
It's not my job to go back and quote my own posts for you, it's your job to read them, as you are very capable of doing.

And I never made a case for "scum!MT" as such - as I clearly said in my post which you originally responded to, I said MT's play has been exceptionally scummy, but I don't think she's scum
because I don't think the FBI hood has scum in it. I can't imagine how anyone else who is actually reading the game could come to the conclusion MT is town... :eek:

If my mechanic solve turns out to be completely wrong, I expect MT to be a pretty high priority lynch, but we're a little ways off that.
:neutral:

so I ask you to explain why you think MT is scum
you say I need to just read your posts where you've explained it at length
I ask you to quote these posts
then you say you never actually made a case for MT as scum explicitly and you think MT is town mechanically

so what were you even on about when you responded to my first question by saying that you already explained
"at length"
why MT is scummy when you don't even claim she's scum now?
….acting scummy doesn't necessarily mean you are scum. If this is really where we're at, I'm off to sleep. :facepalm:
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 am

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In post 2855, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 2853, Morning Tweet wrote:Oh i guess i can save the anticipation of you coming after me for after your solve is proven false, then
It wasn't too long ago you declared it had already been proven false, but it's pleasing to see you backtrack here. Won't be long until you're in the palm of my hand! :lol:
i hope the 10,000 shades you've made on me over the course of this game don't factor into your case. they're quite weak

You don't seem to think it's proven false. A disfavourable flip would prove it false in your eyes, yes? do you even try to interpret things i say as anything other than scummy?

and you still haven't answered the emoji question. im getting grumpy about it >:(
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:46 am

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In post 2856, Battle Mage wrote:….acting scummy doesn't necessarily mean you are scum. If this is really where we're at, I'm off to sleep.
you should definitely sleep if you're seriously trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth regarding MT's alignment. Either the things she's doing are scum-indicative or they aren't, you can't have it both ways. If you think she's town-cleared by mechanics then you can't also argue that her day play is scummy, because by your own assumed definition it's not.
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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 9:50 am

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repeatedly calling someone who you believe is mechanically town scummy really would only be useful if your mechanical solve is about to get proven false and you need a backup plan that "you knew was right all along"
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:51 pm

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In post 2831, Battle Mage wrote:it's a mechanics heavy game? Can you try telling that to...ok pretty much everybody?
Mechanical aspects of game:

Multiple neighborhoods
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Overlapping Neighborhoods
Multiple cop claims

Mechanical aspects of the game dave has talked about:

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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:54 pm

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I mean, I dont think dave's iso is town indicative in any way, but is he actually known as the mechanics guy?

Ive played so many games with him, but that is never how I would characterize his play
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:54 pm

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I'd lynch MT before GL and myself before either of them, fwiw.
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:56 pm

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Ok guys I'm tired of this game stalling.

Let's end today.

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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:57 pm

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Just by posting that great song, bingle has already contributed more to this game than 2 other slots entire posting history
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 2862, Bingle wrote:I'd lynch MT before GL and myself before either of them, fwiw.
stop sheeping my reads and pocketing me bingle
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:58 pm

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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:59 pm

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this new avatar is majestic as fuck
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 12:59 pm

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beeeeeh
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:01 pm

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MT would be a good lynch. They're likely town though.
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:02 pm

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TBC, I'm not really townreading either of them, I just think resolving my neighborhood is literally the most important thing for this day phase and lynching outside of it is dumb.

I doubt the mod puts me in a neighborhood with another cop where I can't get any guilties. The living non inno'd people in my hood are BINGLE DRIXX EC DAVE.

Of those, Dave is the only one I don't think is town.
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:15 pm

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I have to give this a read. Im sorry guys
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 2863, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Ok guys I'm tired of this game stalling.

Let's end today.

VOTE: Firebringer
no thoughts on EC's reasons for townreading that slot?
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 2:13 pm

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In post 2872, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2863, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Ok guys I'm tired of this game stalling.

Let's end today.

VOTE: Firebringer
no thoughts on EC's reasons for townreading that slot?
I'm so apathetic about this game. What did he say?
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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Mon May 11, 2020 2:20 pm

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In post 2863, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Ok guys I'm tired of this game stalling.

Let's end today.

VOTE: Firebringer
hey dude ill lynch whoever u want, just tell me to vote. I am too lazy to scumhunt.
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