Micro 940: A Normal Blitz II - Game Over

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'll introduce a third party and interject a question of my own:
Why are you squeamish about Datisi's naked vote and not mine? Why are you squeamish about wagons forming on people you have no reads on?

Unless you have a read on Umlaut?

[HoldenGolden]

It seems the monkey was quicker than the donkey on this one.

In the interest of progress and as a runner up prize, I'll shall speak.

I think neither HEM/Datsi's votes are AI. Both can be explained by either PoV, and neither did anything to advance the wagon's pressure besides the vote.

Now you must answer HEM.

[humaneatingmonkey]

#125 was directed at Hoctac.

But okay I'll answer Hoctac.

I'm actually trying to get a read on Umlaut here and I think Datisi's vote helps with that. Nothing about it is strikingly AI.

[Hoctac]

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[HoldenGolden]

#125 was directed at Hoctac.

But okay I'll answer Hoctac.

I'm actually trying to get a read on Umlaut here and I think Datisi's vote helps with that. Nothing about it is strikingly AI.

126# was also directed at Hoctac. You are bad at question answer derby.

[Hoctac]

#128 was directed at Hoctac

[HoldenGolden]

Whdkoe73hcndo247gj

HE IS HAVING A STROKE FROM BEING SUSPECTED

MEN GATHER THE LIFE BOATS. WE NEED TO GET HIM READY TO RIDE INTO HELL WITH STYLE!

[humaneatingmonkey]

#132 is directed at Hoctac

[Hoctac]

Look, I don't see any way out of this without pretending I have a townlean/read on Umlaut when I don't.

We're actually masons, and I didn't like Datisi creating momentum on the wagon because it could be a way to get us to claim or spew whether we're actually masons, or if it was a joke.

There

[GeorgeBailey]

HE IS HAVING A STROKE FROM BEING SUSPECTED

I think these last 7 posts gave me a stroke, wtf am i reading

[Hoctac]

And rather than look scummy myself for protecting him, I'd rather just not deal with that

[Hoctac]

#134 is GeorgeBailey

[Umlaut]

1. That was RVS
2. Showing up and leaving is different from never showing up

But how is number 1 different? For all you know George and Monkey is RVS Madoka.

Then George and Monkey can say that.

@George, @Monkey

Are the Madoka votes for any kind of reason?

As for two:

Who said it had anything to do with lurking?

I mean when you vote someone with 0 posts a few pages in, I assume it's because they have 0 posts.

Can you not say the same thing for someone who dropped a vote and peaced? Is that not defined as lurking as well? I would even say it is more proper to say Hiraki is lurking than Madoka since Madoka could of just not woke up yet to play?

Yes, I do think it's more accurate to say Hiraki is lurking than Madoka, which is why I think voting him and keeping my vote their is productive since it might produce some kind of actual pressure while voting Madoka is just a null-op.

I'm puzzled on why you assumed that wagon was had logic behind it (lurker wagon) and not a RVS bandwagon considering all that was said was literally the votes.

I might just be assuming people play in the way I think is good play. If I move my vote it means I actually think the new one is better than the old for some reason, so unless someone is just joining the game I'm going to figure their vote is for some kind of reason even if it's not a very strong one.

pedit

oh my god Hoctac

but also yeah, that's true.

[Datisi]

We're actually masons, and I didn't like Datisi creating momentum on the wagon because it could be a way to get us to claim or spew whether we're actually masons, or if it was a joke.

You didn't like me "creating momentum to get you to claim", so you decided to claim anyway immediately. Ok.

[Umlaut]

Can we just talk about anything else please.

[humaneatingmonkey]

im not buying this mason thing

[humaneatingmonkey]

this is too fake

[shiki]

Yes, I do think it's more accurate to say Hiraki is lurking than Madoka, which is why I think voting him and keeping my vote their is productive since it might produce some kind of actual pressure while voting Madoka is just a null-op.

i do not think hiraki's lurking is alignment indicative in the same way that i do not think hoctac's claiming masons is alignment indicative. hiraki is likely treating his vote as an egopost and waiting for the game to develop, which is in line with his play as either alignment.

[humaneatingmonkey]

the Madoka votes were RVS, but also at the heart of every RVS is trying to see the reaction of people when they wake up and they have a wagon on their name

[HoldenGolden]

1. That was RVS
2. Showing up and leaving is different from never showing up

But how is number 1 different? For all you know George and Monkey is RVS Madoka.

Then George and Monkey can say that.

@George, @Monkey

Are the Madoka votes for any kind of reason?

As for two:

Who said it had anything to do with lurking?

I mean when you vote someone with 0 posts a few pages in, I assume it's because they have 0 posts.

Can you not say the same thing for someone who dropped a vote and peaced? Is that not defined as lurking as well? I would even say it is more proper to say Hiraki is lurking than Madoka since Madoka could of just not woke up yet to play?

Yes, I do think it's more accurate to say Hiraki is lurking than Madoka, which is why I think voting him and keeping my vote their is productive since it might produce some kind of actual pressure while voting Madoka is just a null-op.

I'm puzzled on why you assumed that wagon was had logic behind it (lurker wagon) and not a RVS bandwagon considering all that was said was literally the votes.

I might just be assuming people play in the way I think is good play. If I move my vote it means I actually think the new one is better than the old for some reason, so unless someone is just joining the game I'm going to figure their vote is for some kind of reason even if it's not a very strong one.

pedit

oh my god Hoctac

but also yeah, that's true.

So really it boils down to you think town!play is to only move your vote in RVS if the move is more likely to be scum? Why not ask what their reason was then instead of inserting your own (Voting for lurking?)

[Hoctac]

We're actually masons, and I didn't like Datisi creating momentum on the wagon because it could be a way to get us to claim or spew whether we're actually masons, or if it was a joke.

You didn't like me "creating momentum to get you to claim", so you decided to claim anyway immediately. Ok.

yeah, did you like it?

[GeorgeBailey]

@George, @Monkey Are the Madoka votes for any kind of reason?

I think my vote is better placed on a complete null slot than Datisi right now.

No one particularly scum pings me right now, and at the time I didn't feel comfortable bringing Hiraki to L-1.

[Umlaut]

@George, @Monkey Are the Madoka votes for any kind of reason?

I think my vote is better placed on a complete null slot than Datisi right now.

No one particularly scum pings me right now, and at the time I didn't feel comfortable bringing Hiraki to L-1.

See, this is a good answer (would be better if it weren't preceded by my Guide to What a Town Vote Looks Like to Me, but it's still good).

[Datisi]

We're actually masons, and I didn't like Datisi creating momentum on the wagon because it could be a way to get us to claim or spew whether we're actually masons, or if it was a joke.

You didn't like me "creating momentum to get you to claim", so you decided to claim anyway immediately. Ok.

yeah, did you like it?

Yeah, sure, fun meme.

[Madoka]

Oh six pages! Blitzmas has come early. It is nice to see you all again!