Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Votecount 1.09

Osuka (1)

- lilith2013,

CopyKat (2)

- Brassherald, votato,

Freddiethelady (1)

- osuka

Brassherald (1)

- Formerfish,

Not Voting (4) -

Nasi, gibus, CopyKat, Freddiethelady,

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-05-21 11:05:00)

[Formerfish]

As to Gibus, I feel he's shown some good thoughts and his posting has actually improved since the end of RVS. You know? Like a town.

This is very vague, and not at all made up sounding at all. I'm convinced that you care about this read and aren't just making shit up.

[Nauci]

Oh boy oh gee a Formerfish game! I swear that wasn't sarcastic I am legit twice as excited now

75 I swear the number of times that people who self voted turned out to be scum...

83 Lord almighty I haven't seen a cringey newbie screw up this bad since _{when I did that in my first game on this site oh jeez excuse me I must cringe out of existence for a hot minute}

93 I like this kid's style. Cheeky bugger

102 No

108 THREE DAYS to get to page 5?!? Y'all am I gonna have to give this game mouth to mouth

112 WOOHOO! Real content!

115 Look, I was giving you hella leeway because this is a newbie game and the exact place for advice, but this is an awful lot of posts from votato that are just teaching feathers. That amount of IIOA is lookin' real suss.

I’m suspicious that Lilith is a little more experienced then she’s letting on.

Huh? All of her posts seem like they're coming from an experienced player? I don't understand what you meant by this?

And @lilith you are posting only a little more then @iamironcat. It might not be AI but it seems interesting to me you jumped to protect ironcat so quickly.

I mean, we’ve both posted so I don’t really think you can say either of us were lurking. And regardless, this early I don’t think it’s AI. The only reason I didn’t include formerfish in this is because he hasn’t actually posted.

Can you answer my question about me being “more experienced than I’m letting on”? Why is that something you are suspicious of?

You aren’t posting much, casting votes and defending someone. Not trying to sort out the rules, clarify things or understand people better. It seems a little sus to me, and I could be wrong but it feels lurking to me....That’s why I asked you to explain your vote and your defending.

Okay see several people asked the same question I just did but he totally avoided answering it even when it was repeated at him, versus the rest of the questions. ¿Por que?

142 that logic is wild lmao

148 ironcat pls what are u evn doin

153 what is this, LaL?

171 oh so now we're pretending Lynch All Lurkers is real knowledge?

181 Oh thank god that's a lot easier to read/type and I can stop getting the slot confused with Lilith

186 I should start a counter for freddie's misinterpretations

190 @ironcat: I didn't get your logic in 159 and I don't get it here either. Can you type it out more explicitly?

194 @formerfish: BDE?

Yo, what up?

VOTE: Former Fish

I was town PR before!

You're the only person I know here and this is my rvs thing.

VOTE: formerfish mafia addicts should be quicklynched so they become less addicted

Decently obfuscated vote on me. Probably scum.

Literally in the same post you dismissed something as a thing you did because RVS, and then cast suspicion on Lilith for something she did during RVS? This smells so scummy

196 Brass, it seems you need to use /s tags

198 AGAIN with the IIOA!

199 I legitimately can't currently tell if Formerfish is misrepresenting or actually can't detect sarcasm/facetiousness.

203 why can't the people in my never-lynch pile ever be more helpful

Paranoia, poor logic, a scum list that's too long, no reasoning. You can scumread me for that if you want

I like you. You could still be scum and ill cry a single tear when you die, but i like you.

This is how I feel about you, Formerfish

Pushing to lynch any of the SEs is not a good look on you.

The way you keep collectively assigning quality to SEs for the sole reason that they're SEs ain't no good look either buddy

219 & 220 Sweetie don't worry your pretty little head and just let us adults take care of the scum hunting, okay?

227 now that's a darn dirty misrep sir

234

16+48+49 <-- I think he's genuine about having wanted to play scum

Those so WIFOM that it's NAI.

I think Votato is a townsperson as well since pretty early on. They've (what pronoun do you use btw, votato?) been very active, giving pro-town advice (personally they really helped me know how rvs/voting should be done and to form my thought processes), not afraid to make clear stances, and I don't really feel like they're pushing any kind of agenda - they've mostly been helping clarify stances/thought processes or resolve disagreements.

I have the opposite read to my predecessor and their naiveté. I think votato has gone out of his way to post without stirring up anything. Clarifications and helping is great, but it makes for the vast majority of his content because it's hard to make up genuine thought processes of read progression as scum.

Outing PRs is never a good idea as town, and is a scum move.

agree 100% but doesn't scum post "votato and copycat are masons" in their scum PT and not here?

I think there is a difference between scum play and poor play.

Its real easy for scum to hide behind bad play if you let scummy plays go as just bad play

Brass you're going to have to explain to me how that would be a viable scum strategy instead of a bad anti-town move? Because I feel like the only options are bad move all around

If it doesn't make them more accurate, the mafia would waste night kills

248 252 266 & 268 are more IIOA or fluff posts

271 you're killin' me Smalls

So now I'm in a catch-22

gibus clarified 264+265 for me and Its not the scum slip I thought it was but if I unvote I'll probably be scumread for it

There are two people who the scum do not want lynched. Otherwise, the only reason they want a slot to keep around is if they think they've got them pocketed.

You clearly do not have anyone pocketed.

So am I scum in this or is scum trying to keep me around? I genuinely confused

This level of self-consciousness only comes from scum I swear

THE POINT IS COUNTING TO TWO! Can you do that?

I've never in several games seen Brass break like this before but here it is entirely warranted and I applaud you good sir

318 I missed you buddy it's good to be back

I've only read through page 14 but here's my game solve via a classic:

Nauci's Listicular Spectacular Numero Uno

Never Lynch But Maybe Also Never Read Either

• Iamironcat
  
• Gibus

These Scummers A'ight

• Brassherald
  
• Formerfish

Insufficient Data, We Require More Pylons

• Freddiethelady
  
• lilith2013

Mmmm, Ionno...

To the Stocks With Thee!

• CopyKat
  
• Votato

CopyKat because of a few things Brass said and because post 302 quoted above SMELLS SO BAD

I think Votato is scum because he's very active but SO. DANG. MUCH. of his content is either fluff or IIOA that, while the information posts are very helpful, he's coasting through on those instead of scum hunting and analysis contributions.

Votato's Fluff Posts:

16, 17, 23, 39, 41, 48, 49, 60, 63, 67, 164, 180

Votato's Information Instead of Analysis Posts:

20, 28, 78, 79, 86, 103, 108, 110, 115, 120, 198, 248, 249, 252, 266, 268, 292, 299, 324, 330, 336, 342

I'm stopping at page 14 because holy shit it's 6:03 AM what the fuck am I doing

@formerfish hey can I get in on that rehab

[Nauci]

Part 2 will come after I wake up but part VOTE: CopyKat can come right the heck now

[votato]

that puts copykat on L-2. Nauci how do you reconcile your top 2 scum reads scum reading each other? Are we just bussing hard? Pretty meh catchup, speaking of iioa

[brassherald]

As to Gibus, I feel he's shown some good thoughts and his posting has actually improved since the end of RVS. You know? Like a town.

This is very vague, and not at all made up sounding at all. I'm convinced that you care about this read and aren't just making shit up.

I'm not making a wall post so that's what you get

[osuka]

that puts copykat on L-2. Nauci how do you reconcile your top 2 scum reads scum reading each other? Are we just bussing hard? Pretty meh catchup, speaking of iioa

this is completely out of touch with reality and the fact that his two scumreads scumread each other means nothing. Her post was pretty okay and yours is a sad accusation based on a fabricated premise

i liked you for town before but now I'm not so sure

[osuka]

As to Gibus, I feel he's shown some good thoughts and his posting has actually improved since the end of RVS. You know? Like a town.

This is very vague, and not at all made up sounding at all. I'm convinced that you care about this read and aren't just making shit up.

I'm not making a wall post so that's what you get

can we get

something

that isn't completely bland?

[brassherald]

I'm sorry that Nauci replaced into a Scum slot.

VOTE: Nauci

We're still buds outside of the game

[lilith2013]

Explain please?

[brassherald]

Explain please?

I said before that people were trusting feathers way too easily. That catch up post where Nauci claims on day 1 to name the Scum team doesn't seem right. As votato said its a lot of IIOA and she's trying to pocket me by pointing out me being upset was justified. Which I already knew, but whatever.

I don't think Town!Nauci feels a need to point out that as the only bit about me, too. Overall, I didn't like that after she already replaced into a slot I had heavy suspicions of

[lilith2013]

Ironcat and Lilli is my best guess at a TvT argument if there is one.

Can you explain why you think this?

Also can you answer this question

[brassherald]

Ironcat and Lilli is my best guess at a TvT argument if there is one.

Can you explain why you think this?

Also can you answer this question

I already did. You guys displayed reasoning that I think town uses. I think you were both wrong but the process was there.

I will not be answering the same question a third time

[lilith2013]

Oh sorry I must have missed it

[Formerfish]

Oh boy oh gee a Formerfish game! I swear that wasn't sarcastic I am legit twice as excited now

Have we played together before?

[Formerfish]

I'm sorry that Nauci replaced into a Scum slot.

VOTE: Nauci

We're still buds outside of the game

Since when are you sring feathers slot?

Did you screw up the chart you made to help you keep all your "reads" in order?

First you forget how you're reading Gib, and now feathers slot. I think you need an assistant as scum to play well. CAN WE GET THIS SCUMMER SOME ASSISTANCE?

[brassherald]

I'm cool with where my vote is. I feel like there's lots of noise from Kat but not much else. Feeling good about it.

Ok, you care to comment on anything else, or are you good with that being your contribution given everything else that has been going on?

I feel like people might have been a little too fast to trust Feathers. Still not sure about you.

Ironcat and Lilli is my best guess at a TvT argument if there is one.

Votato I'm comfortable saying he's either town or got me pocketed hard.

I don't know about Freddie at all legitimately forgot he was in the game

[brassherald]

I'm sorry that Nauci replaced into a Scum slot.

VOTE: Nauci

We're still buds outside of the game

Since when are you sring feathers slot?

Did you screw up the chart you made to help you keep all your "reads" in order?

First you forget how you're reading Gib, and now feathers slot. I think you need an assistant as scum to play well. CAN WE GET THIS SCUMMER SOME ASSISTANCE?

Can you read?

[brassherald]

Just to be clear, I'm not asking if you are able to read but like if I say something that's been clearly stated can you all please just read what I've already written rather than wasting my time with inane questions

[Formerfish]

I feel like people might have been a little too fast to trust Feathers.

I can read. The above sentence says that you feel people might have been quick to trust feathers.

I think what you meant to say is that "I (brass) have a scum read on feathers based off the following reasons, and supported by this evidence."

Instead you are just changing your reads with little to no reason given and then you are being a snarky shit when people ask you to explain basic principles of the game and your stances in it.

I mean if you want to just be a pedantic fuck then I can just not give a shit about you until I have to.

[Formerfish]

heavy suspicions

I'm having a hard time reconciling your current read on feathers with what youve said about them so far.

Like the only mention you make of them really is that you think that people are trusting them too quick, but you arent giving any reason for us to not trust him. Like do you have specific posts of his that look fabricated and made up? If you do, by all means lets see them and discuss, because I can't argue against a point that is only hinted at being made and never followed through on.

You know how this game is played and you are playing it in a way right now that is going to be detrimental to town. So you have a choice, dont do that and live, or continue to play the way you are and ill make sure to get you lynched today.

Deal?

[Nauci]

that puts copykat on L-2. Nauci how do you reconcile your top 2 scum reads scum reading each other? Are we just bussing hard? Pretty meh catchup, speaking of iioa

Did that start as of page 14?

I don't count anything as bussing unless there was a viable lynch wagon on it—did they successfully get each other to -2?

[Nauci]

she's trying to pocket me by pointing out me being upset was justified.

Actually I was just saying you were justified as an indirect dig at the post you were talking about because I had run out of direct ways to express it

[Nauci]

Oh boy oh gee a Formerfish game! I swear that wasn't sarcastic I am legit twice as excited now

Have we played together before?

I don't think so; the reaction was by reputation

[Nauci]

Just to be clear, I'm not asking if you are able to read but like if I say something that's been clearly stated can you all please just read what I've already written rather than wasting my time with inane questions

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