Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[Formerfish]

[osuka]

osuka, you are clearly being a dick and making it personal. stop being a dick. and yes, i mean that you as a person are being a dick, outside the context of this game.

also, at this point freddie is 100% town. i know her well enough to know that she's being honest here. she hasnt quite grasped this game, but shes trying. maybe constructive criticism or feedback would be better for both your emotional wellbeing, hers, and the game. i guess you're entitled to be a dick if you want though.

i guess ill effort tomorrow and say some things.

whatever you say - i find it nearly impossible to convey how bad some of this content is in any other way. feel free to chime in with some vocabulary you think is not dick-worthy and i'll make sure to read whatever you come up with

freddie is not 100% town and neither are you.

as an addendum, my emotional wellbeing is, in fact, untouched by whatever she could possibly say in this thread

[osuka]

I don't really know how to contribute at this point - the discussion has only been revolving around how shitty my posts are, which is just noise. lilith isn't around nor is gibus. i think tux and nauci are doing a nice job of looking for other things to discuss, but aren't being engaged. fish and osuka aren't doing much except critique my posts. votato is quiet for now but not like lilith or gibus who have been virtually silent for a long time now.

this is a bad misrep of how the game is going. fish and i are tearing your posts apart and yet all you do is defend

yourself

, not the content we're addressing. it's almost as if you take the push on your slot personally, or you're trying to pull the "everyone's an asshole to me!" card

I’m not trying to take things personally. I will say that this public flogging isn’t fun. I’m not the only one who thinks you’re being unnecessary mean.

again i'm not flogging you personally. i have nothing against you outside the context of the game, but boy oh boy are you deserving of a d2 lynch

[osuka]

I have a solution, if Vota flips town, we leave Freddie alone. If Vota flips scum we power lynch Freddie on day 3

that seems like a bad plan.

I'm actually with votato on this one. i'm not sure town vota means scum freddie. i dont think votas flip would actually mean a whole lot in terms of freddies alignment at all

freddies flip, on the other hand, might implicate vota a bit

[osuka]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day barring only the literal apocalypse

i can understand poor decision making in light of judgment day

[Tuxedo Mask]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day barring only the literal apocalypse

i can understand poor decision making in light of judgment day

What if Freddie flips scum?

[Formerfish]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

[Formerfish]

Nauci

Formerfish
IMO, the most amount of analysis and effort has come from this slot, which exemplifies town motivation and is in a league of its own.

By the way, ftfy

[votato]

Who wins at the end of that movie? Jerry Maguire.

Who had the correct idea, but was misunderstood and maligned by the masses? Jerry Maguire.

Who stuck to his guns through thick and thin finding not only true friendship, happiness, love and a family to see himself come out on top and silence all the haters? Jerry Mafuckinguire.

I think that clip is perfect for what I'm trying to do here. You guys keep being busy body sheep.

except people are sheeping you. if anything im jerry macguire, the only person defending freddie.

[osuka]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

[Tuxedo Mask]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

Wouldn't that mean Votato is scum regardless of Freddie's alignment?

[osuka]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

Wouldn't that mean Votato is scum regardless of Freddie's alignment?

please explain how you got to this point in your reasoning

[Formerfish]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

That's not really a thing though. I've powerlynched before in situations where someone gave a 100% tr on someone else in a newbie and they both flipped vts.

There is literally 1 situation where I step off this train and hop on to another one, and neither Vota nor Freddie have given any indication that we are in that situation.

So, forgive me if "trust me, I know them" doesn't exactly get me moist in all the right places. The fact that you're keeping up with the shtick means you are most likely scum, or town who doesn't know when to drop the act and let us in on the secret.

[Formerfish]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

Wouldn't that mean Votato is scum regardless of Freddie's alignment?

please explain how you got to this point in your reasoning

Because Vota is scum defending his buddy, or Vota is scum trying to buddy Freddie.

[Formerfish]

Which is why I said that if we lynch Vota and he flips town, then I would assume Freddie had a higher than rand chance of being town.

If Vota flipped scum there is a higher than rand chance that Freddie is scum.

[Tuxedo Mask]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

Wouldn't that mean Votato is scum regardless of Freddie's alignment?

please explain how you got to this point in your reasoning

Fish already got to this but, if your reason against Votato being scum is their %100 sure town read of them, that would make them scum regardless of flips. Because its the sureness coming from scum you're saying you find suspicious.

@Fish, don't you think that Osuka not following the conclusion of his own suspicions is a little weird? Like if he really thought Votato was scum for their sure town read in Freddie shouldn't they be one step ahead of us and not behind?

[Tuxedo Mask]

VOTE: Osuka

[osuka]

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

thats exactly what im saying

Wouldn't that mean Votato is scum regardless of Freddie's alignment?

please explain how you got to this point in your reasoning

Fish already got to this but, if your reason against Votato being scum is their %100 sure town read of them, that would make them scum regardless of flips. Because its the sureness coming from scum you're saying you find suspicious.

@Fish, don't you think that Osuka not following the conclusion of his own suspicions is a little weird? Like if he really thought Votato was scum for their sure town read in Freddie shouldn't they be one step ahead of us and not behind?

whoa what the fuck just happened

this is the most disgusting misrep of the thread so far. that conclusion was never mine, it was

yours

. why the fuck would i vote votato? I said that if freddie flips green, votato is very likely to be scum - but i also said that freddie is overwhelmingly likely not to flip green, and even that has nothing to do with voting anyone

[osuka]

that's a scum slip if ive ever seen one. in fact, I will bet that scum team is { tuxedo, { freddie, votato } } - the second member of which depends on the votato-freddie dynamic i explained earlier

[Tuxedo Mask]

You said to Fish with your words, that "only scum Votato" would be that sure of a read on Freddie. Does that not make them scum regardless of Freddie's alignment? Why would Freddie being scum make Vota assuredness town?

[osuka]

im currently torn as to what is a better lynch: i'm fairly confident tuxedo flips scum but freddie is also a good candidate for scum, AND a green flip there gives us a practically confirmed scum slot (votato). I'm probably pretty easy to convince either way right now

[osuka]

You said to Fish with your words, that "only scum Votato" would be that sure of a read on Freddie. Does that not make them scum regardless of Freddie's alignment? Why would Freddie being scum make Vota assuredness town?

do you know how to read?

[osuka]

because if so id highly suggest you start reading

[osuka]

heres a hint

if freddie flips town, however remote that possibility, votato should be powerlynched the following day

Is there a typo in this or are you saying that only scum Vota would be able to have that sure of a read on town Freddie?

[Formerfish]

A Freddie flip tells us nothing about Votas alignment, while a Vota flip will give us info about Freddie.

Osuka, your inability to follow my logic and pushing of a suboptimal plan while ridiculing those who dare speak against you is showing your scum a little more than I think you'd like.

Dial it back and sheep me for a bit until the heat on you dies down. Hell, help us lynch your partner in Vota, what do you say?

Osuka, you're playing the asshole card to much in thread right now, if you're town your attitude is anathema to anything resembling cooperation, which you do need to get your way.