Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

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Votecount 2.02

Freddiethelady (1)

- Osuka

lilith2013 (2)

- Nauci,

Osuka (1)

- Tuxedo Mask

Not Voting (5) -

Votato, Freddiethelady, Formerfish, Lilith2013, gibus

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-05-30 08:15:00)

[Formerfish]

i want to lynch osuka. There is only one thing that would make me change my mind

Cool, so if I looked at a vote count would I see a vote on Osuka made by you, or are you throwing a lot of shade without ever voting that person?

[Formerfish]

Votecount 2.01

Freddiethelady (1)

- Osuka

lilith2013 (2)

- Nauci,

Osuka (1)

- Tuxedo Mask

Not Voting (5) -

Votato, Freddiethelady, Formerfish, Lilith2013, gibus

With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-05-30 08:15:00)

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Oh hey, Vota isn't voting... I thought he had a thing about people pushing other people without voting them.

Osuka, do you remember when Vota was all like "You guys are scum together because you never voted each other."

Yet here he is making a flaccid attempt at scum reading without the spine of someone with convictions. You know who usually has no real leg to stand on in cases like this?

Scum.

[votato]

hmm i thought i was voting. see theres an easy fix though. VOTE: osuka.

your move

[Formerfish]

hmm i thought i was voting. see theres an easy fix though. VOTE: osuka.

your move

Oh my bad, I was just pointing out how you were doing something that you found scummy in someone else. Just holding up a mirror so you could see the kettle you are.

I don't have the same opinions as you, therefore don't hold myself to the standard you do. It must get exhausting talking out both sides of your mouth like that. Nice skill to have though.

[votato]

fish. assume for a minute that im right about freddie. game out for me what town!me's solve should be, if not you and osuka.

[Formerfish]

fish. assume for a minute that im right about freddie. game out for me what town!me's solve should be, if not you and osuka.

I feel the easier way to play this game is to assume I'm town, and to try and find a way to work with me and not antagonize me.

You have to understand why I'm suspect of your adherence to the 1000% tr of an unflipped and self proclaimed claimed vt, especially when it came the way it did.

If you guys were Mason's together then this all makes sense, but Freddie had claimed VT and either is or was told to claim VT by their Mason partner to take heat off their slot or is lying.

Instead you just hand wave everything you disagree with away and act like you're superior and we should all just prostate ourselves in front of your reverence.

You've given no one a reason to work with you and many reasons to oppose you.

That's a you problem, not an us problem.

[votato]

it seems that lilith and tuxedo are willing to work with me. it doesnt seem that youre interested in working with anyone.

[osuka]

alright fellers, prepare your respective anuses for the incoming Great Flood of 2020™

[Formerfish]

it seems that lilith and tuxedo are willing to work with me. it doesnt seem that youre interested in working with anyone.

Lilith has been fanboying my posts and has been throwing major and unhidden scum reads towards freddie, the slot i want dead.

How exactly are you pulling her into your side of the equation here?

And Tux voted Osuka because he doesnt understand why O wants to lynch Freddie over you, so Tux voted there.

Neither of them are sounding alarms that draw attention to your case, in fact it seems like youre reaching a bit far here.

As for the last sentence, I am willing to work with people who have town motivations. Freddie doesnt, and the way you are defending that slot you dont, so I have no interest in working with you. If youve been paying attention ive been actively driving your lynch today, and thats not a solo endeavor like what you are trying to do, Hell Freddie isnt even defending you the way you are her, so what does that say?

[osuka]

osuka's initial post unvoted and said "lemme get caught up." shortly thereafter, without being caught up, he drops another vote. this scumread developed really fast, and hasnt been remotely re-evaluated. in fact, anyone who defends freddie or questions osuka is scum in osuka's mind.

that's just not true. you're scum because of the way you're defending freddie, not the fact that you are - i've said that in the past and you've conveniently ignored that

[Nauci]

I'm pretty sure there's at least one scummer in {FF, lilith2013, Tuxedo Mask}. If I'm wrong, I'll have reread osuka's slot.

I'm still confused about why FF is in this group for you, Gibus

[osuka]

wait what happened to that townread? (spoiler, the self-townread comes back later...)

[snip]

again, i townread myself, but please ignore all the scummy stuff i see coming from my slot

you

do

realize that i don't have to read my own slot, right? Like i get a role pm at the beginning of the game. if you havent gotten yours then something might be wrong

[Formerfish]

osuka's initial post unvoted and said "lemme get caught up." shortly thereafter, without being caught up, he drops another vote. this scumread developed really fast, and hasnt been remotely re-evaluated. in fact, anyone who defends freddie or questions osuka is scum in osuka's mind.

that's just not true. you're scum because of the way you're defending freddie, not the fact that you are - i've said that in the past and you've conveniently ignored that

Not ignored, misrepresented. Big difference.

[Nauci]

(he is NOT NK target number 1 IMO), so "claiming VT" is an unnecessary move as scum.

The context for that accusation was that specifically, the end of day discussion was about how he shouldn't claim if he's a PR in order to imply that he's a likely PR to try to get scum to shoot there. Did that context factor into your assessment?

Him not claiming a role when others discuss about not claiming to be PR if one is a PR does not increase the probability that he is a PR to 50%, and everyone should be aware of that.
I stand by what I said about it being an unnecessary move as scum.

Following up on this (sorry if you already answered this because I'm not caught up on the most recent pages yet): do you think that the people who were pushing this line of thinking genuinely believed their logic was sound, or were purposely deceptive?

[osuka]

more shade, but doesnt press the issue

ive made it clear that i dont scumread ff (see 1185, which you also conveniently ignored)

[osuka]

yes, i should be lynched for being right. makes sense. also, for the record, your solve at this point is me and freddie. you think we are scum partners. so if freddie flips scum, you want to lynch me for being scum. but now if freddie flips town you still want to lynch me. thats what tuxedo is saying. and tuxedo is right.

WHOMEGALUL this is a misrep of biblical proportions

[Nauci]

I have a solution, if Vota flips town, we leave Freddie alone. If Vota flips scum we power lynch Freddie on day 3

[osuka]

1400 is a shit post. this is in contrast to a shitpost, which i'm completely in favor of - but that one is just a post that happens to be complete shit

[osuka]

freddie was still talking as if a wave lynch hadn't occurred literally in front of her eyes and multiple people hadn't straight up told her that it happened.

Like I just seriously can't believe that this cluelessness isn't manufactured.

qft

[Formerfish]

I have a solution, if Vota flips town, we leave Freddie alone. If Vota flips scum we power lynch Freddie on day 3

It makes more sense then you are acting.

[osuka]

You said "for pressure." Okay, nausi already pressure voted me. I posted only once in the thread after that, so it should be obvious the "pressure" wasn't going to achieve anything. Like my inactivity was clearly not the result of people not paying attention to me in this thread, so why did/do you think that paying attention to me would change my lack of activity after nausi's pressure vote was already shown to not have an effect?

UNVOTE: lilith2k13
Your response to Nauci's pressure vote looked unsatisfactory, and I confused your inactivity with lurking as scum. I agree, my vote was hasty.

this is garbage

lilith is kind of screaming town in the past few pages

[osuka]

Yup, you’re right. I’ll do better next time! Good luck everyone!

I forgot to talk about this one, just more "cluelessness" from freddie that I don't buy. Once again, multiple people straight up told her that waves was dead, they told her why it was bad to claim after the lynch happened, and then she keeps acting like she will be lynched.

Theres no scum motivation either. It's a fuck up. I don't see why it's ai. I'm pretty sure she thought she'd be night killed for claiming town, because she figured everyone believed her, and now her secret was out.

kekW TRY HARDER

this is far and away the hardest ive ever seen anyone try to defend another slot that is, by themselves, nearly confirmed scum and completely defenseless

what a weird fucking game

[osuka]

ff the chain of events is accurate. But there's a really simple explanation for why Freddie claimed. She fucked up. As scum there's no reason for her to claim there. It's a bad play and has no upside regardless of alignment. Occams razor

case in point for my previous post

[Formerfish]

You said "for pressure." Okay, nausi already pressure voted me. I posted only once in the thread after that, so it should be obvious the "pressure" wasn't going to achieve anything. Like my inactivity was clearly not the result of people not paying attention to me in this thread, so why did/do you think that paying attention to me would change my lack of activity after nausi's pressure vote was already shown to not have an effect?

UNVOTE: lilith2k13
Your response to Nauci's pressure vote looked unsatisfactory, and I confused your inactivity with lurking as scum. I agree, my vote was hasty.

this is garbage

lilith is

kind of

screaming town in the past few pages