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[Persivul]

I think right now i'm confident with Puppy over Una.

Shit, forgot about this. George, explain this to me.

[Persivul]

Una is my safest bet today. I'm lost between sorting Knight and Puppy though.

Are you at puppy/una, or puppy/knight?

[Knightmare491]

@Persivul, what do you think about

1738?

[Persivul]

@Persivul, what do you think about

1738?

It's a reasonable point. OTOH, it was odd that una specifically called out George in 1260. Could have been a signal that he didn't want both of you on the mislynch.

Una's vote/unvote there seemed like a signal of some sort, but I'm not sure of what. He's also seemed unusually speculative about daytalk IIRC.

George, what do you think of the D3 voting in general, and page 51 in particular?

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Vote Count 5.1

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GeorgeBailey (0)

UnaBombaH (0)

Knightmare491 (0)

Persivul (0)

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Not Voting(5):CantLynchAPuppy;Knightmare491;GeorgeBailey;Persivul;UnaBombaH;

With 5 alive it is 3 to lynch.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2020-05-29 04:00:00) or when a lynch has been achieved.

[Persivul]

I've already given my solve of red!Prana = Puppy>Una,

green!Prana = Puppy/Knight

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This is what was killed last night.

[Persivul]

George, talk to me.

[GeorgeBailey]

Sorry Sorry, got called in to work yesterday and was exhuasted. I'll try and answer your questions Persi as best I can before going out today.

George, what do you think of the D3 voting in general, and page 51 in particular?

I wanna give Una a break about the hesitant voting, especially since I felt just as torn between the two wagons. I think Popo's claim seemed pretty genuine and could have gone both ways. Which is why I honestly feel best voting Knight today.

Like, this was Una's response to popo telling me to unvote:

ANSWER ME THIS. HOW THE HELL DID I KNOW YOU DIDNT GO ANYWHERE NIGHT 1??????????????

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT. GEORGE YOU IF ANYONE SHOULD KNOW IM TELLING THE TRUTH REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

There's no reason why the scumteam couldn't just be popopo/Pers/mavs.


So saying stuff like "How could you vote there?" or "How can you believe this or that?" is stupid considering the mess we are in.

Like, I think the line of reasoning on the last sentence feels genuine. Who we lynched that day was incredibly important for Town.

Una's vote on Page 51:

VOTE: Persivul - I hope George does the right thing for town and makes sure we at least get a lynch.

My votes is based mainly on mavs' play today, and obviously the contradicting claims.
I have a good hunch that no matter what Persivul flips today, town still has a good chance of pulling through.

This was a bad vote in retrospect, I think you're completely right. I really don't like the last line. "No matter what Persi flips today, town still has a good chance" is really untrue since even now we don't have a good case on who scum is. And based on Mav's play? He was literally just suggesting Mavs to be the the scum team earlier. But I still think going with the idea that scum bussed would be a safer bet.

Shit, forgot about this. George, explain this to me.

At the time, I think Prana was on to something. I think Knight bussed, and Puppy('s slot) was afk which led to a really stale gamestate where the lynch was decided between Una and I. It also could be why it felt like Scum was trying to force a no-lynch, since scum couldn't even hammer if they wanted to.

Scum doesn't have Day talk:

14:Daychat: No evil faction has daychat by default.

Which means they're disorganized, I think popo told their buddy to vote him when he outs at night, which is why Knight's vote feels so off and early:

VOTE: popo

Are you at puppy/una, or puppy/knight?

Puppy/Knight.

But honestly Persi, i'll sheep your vote since I know you're 100% PR. Makes no fucking sense to not have a 1-shot cop in this setup. If you really think Una is 100% maf today i'll vote him.

Fuck, I'm late lmao. I'll try to respond mobile further in the day.

[UnaBombaH]

So in all simplicity it's just Knight+Puppy.
I did a full read on Knightmare during work today, but I've been unable to post anything.
Not sure why I'm unable to login from my work laptop. I could only read, not post.

[UnaBombaH]

Also I'm not sure what's with all the speculation about me mentioning scum- daytalk?
All I've been pointing at, is the fact that I do not believe they have it at all, and thus they were unable to plan D3 well beforehand.
Hence why it now leads me to scum!Knight rather than scum!George.

[CantHateAPuppy]

hey guys

feel like i should have more to say but i've been kind of putting my games off

truth is una/knight > george just feels right to me, i don't want to tunnel in lylo but since prana's flip i haven't had much reason to reconsider. otoh, lately my scumreads have never been right. kind of struggling with the apathy.

honestly una's tone kind of strikes me as town the last few pages, but i just don't think it's knight/george.

[Persivul]

The more I think about it, the more I go in circles. Each case has pros and cons. Final deciding factor is that both Tanner and prana named Knight yesterday.

VOTE: Knightmare

[Knightmare491]

Scum hammer FFS

[Knightmare491]

UNVOTE NOW

[Knightmare491]

Tanner and PD don't matter, this is so frustrating FGS

[Knightmare491]

PD had horrible reads all game, he's also wrong on me. Scum had to kill one of Tanner or you. You're literally throwing the game on useless NKA

[Knightmare491]

Think of what is more compelling, NKA or the fact that I as scum have made this game harder for me for no fucking reason and you'll get you'll get your answer.

[Persivul]

So you're lurking, not adding content, not voting anyone...just sitting there waiting to bitch about my eventual vote?

[Persivul]

From my POV it's pretty clear, I do not see GB being scum due to interactions with popo and Persivul cannot be scum.
So it has to be puppy + una by POE.

You know what might have been compelling? Actual cases instead of just POE.

[Persivul]

Scum had to kill one of Tanner or you.

Yep. Tanner had you in his lynch pool for today. I didn't. I'm alive. Ignoring that would be drinking the wifom, and in the long term that's not a successful strategy.

If we lose this game, so be it. If you're town, you should have actually helped me by pushing your scum reads. I don't appreciate that everyone has basically abdicated this decision to me. Just because I'm pretty much mechanically cleared doesn't mean people should just quit playing in lylo. Yet even George, my towniest read, has done almost nothing.

[Knightmare491]

What kinda case do you expect me to make on a slot which replaced in on day 3, with the previous slot having no content?

[Persivul]

You only have one scum read?

[Knightmare491]

I've talked about una already.

[Persivul]

Just double ISO'd you and luca/popo again. Your interactions are almost nonexistent.

[Persivul]

I've talked about una already.

This pisses me off. If you're town - FUCK YOU. We've all talked about everyone already. There's a reason they call a push a PUSH, not a fucking TALK ABOUT.