Newbie 2004: Trash Panada Hour. Redux! GAME OVER

[gibus]

69th pagetop

[Tuxedo Mask]

Welcome one and all! Gibus and I will be your guides.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Dunnstral replaced Lilith2013.

This will be reflected in the next VC

[Dunnstral]

feathers/nausi

why does everyone insist on spelling my username this way

It's spelled that way in the 1st post

The mystery has been solved

[gibus]

69th pagetop

This should confirm me as obvtown btw

[Dunnstral]

Do we know why nobody died?

[Tuxedo Mask]

Nope.

[Dunnstral]

Blair Replaces FreddieTheLady
Alortom Replaces Votato
Battlemage Replaces Formerfish
BBmolla Replaces Osuka.


Lilith2013 has requested replacement. Adding an additional 2 days to the deadline due to the volume of replacements.

The b team

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Op is updated. I'm Tired Now.

[Aloratom]

I dunno what's worse than a dumpster fire, but this has got to be close.

[Aloratom]

Good move putting the reps on the vc with the originals by Elmo.

[Aloratom]

Formerfish can come across as scummy pretty easily as can battle mage so that's not a bad fit.

[Aloratom]

Guess I don't know anyone else here.

[Battle Mage]

Formerfish can come across as scummy pretty easily as can battle mage so that's not a bad fit.

Really? I've only ever been lynched once, in like 8 games since returning! My weakness these days is definitely crap reads haha

also hi!

[Aloratom]

Hey BM. Yeah, well at least it's not AI. Once I get around to reading fish's iso, we'll see. I'm sure it's going to be "you think I'm mad... You haven't seen me mad. I've been a nice little boy so far."

[Aloratom]

But let's put him to pasture. Why did whoever get lynched get lynched?

[Blair]

Greetings!

I was promised panadas.

88% of living players in this game are replacements. This presents a unique challenge! I'll review the thread over the next 24 hours.

Gibus, as the sole remainder of the original playlist, can I trouble you for a tl;dr?

[gibus]

But let's put him to pasture. Why did whoever get lynched get lynched?

Brass, mainly for inconsistency in his reads.

Brassherald - 50% game read, 50% meta read. Shockingly quiet, weirdly cagey about reads, not even acknowledging reads changing when posting unexplained new reads. The one thing holding me back from scum-reading them for a while was that they tunneled on the scum I'm most sure about, but before that wagon got any more steam, hopped off and then replaced. In the game where we both played in the same scum slot, he was very similarly unmotivated and went as far as to replace out.

Gibus, Fish and Freddie are still nulls.

Gibus probably towards the town line, fish towards the Scum line in my mind.

Where's the TR on Gib coming from?

Why am I closer to scum for you?

These are just baseless statements you've made with no attempt to qualify them.

Brass is the most likely to be a cumquat. Vota is a donkey.

[Battle Mage]

I've read a couple of pages from early in the game so far. Initial thoughts are:

Aloratom is town (thank goodness)
Gibus is scum (oh dear)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I was promised panadas.

[Battle Mage]

I've read a couple of pages from early in the game so far. Initial thoughts are:

Aloratom is town (thank goodness)
Gibus is scum (oh dear)

Blair is town too - sweet.

Mod has ruled with an iron fist - you love to see it!

[gibus]

Greetings!

I was promised panadas.

88% of living players in this game are replacements. This presents a unique challenge! I'll review the thread over the next 24 hours.

Gibus, as the sole remainder of the original playlist, can I trouble you for a tl;dr?

Wavesarc, Fred and CopyKat were the main wagons of D1.
Votato was scumread by lilith and waves for not pushing his scumreads.
Fred claimed even though someone else got hammered. FF, osuka, lilith speculated that this was scummy. Votato was very confident that it came from a town mindset, which made others think that votato could flip scum if Fred flipped town/Fred could flip scum if votato flipped scum.

[Battle Mage]

I've read a couple of pages from early in the game so far. Initial thoughts are:

Aloratom is town (thank goodness)
Gibus is scum (oh dear)

Blair is town too - sweet.

Mod has ruled with an iron fist - you love to see it!

Actually Blair could be scum.

Freddie had a hard time of it, and basically fell apart from what I can see. A nice scumslip spotted in there about "I'm not very good at lying" during his claim (not obvious to me he had lied beforehand, and scum lies amirite?).

His claim was basically "I'm shit at lying, but don't want to die, but I'll claim VT because nobody will buy a PR fakeclaim". I'll try and meta Freddie or something perhaps, but for now:

VOTE: Vote: Blair

[Blair]

I can't very reasonably defend my predecessor's actions (as I cannot explain them any better than anyone else), nor can I objectively survey them (I know he was town), so I'll just provide the post Battle Mage is referring to for everyone's ease of reference:

Spoiler:

@Freddie why aren't you voting FF? And what about FF do you find scummy?
Do you scum read Copycat/Me? But I'm most interested in your read of Copycat's posts. And do you scum read Osuka/Ironcat? I'm more interested in your thoughts on Osuka's posts though.

Freddie, can you answer this?

Ironcat was unvoted by me. We established that, I could have been wrong but it seemed reasonable to me so I acted on it. Osuka has been just shitting on everyone’s posts and being loud. The loudness may be an attempted substance but I can’t read it yet.

Fish, what’s a vanity vote?

I’m not voting fish atm because I think he’s scummy but it might be deliberate. It reminds me of the quote “I think a servant of the enemy would look fairer and feel fouler”. I’m still not sure enough to vote him, which is why I never voted him.

How do I officially claim my role? Do I send a screen shot of my message from Elmo? I’m not scum.

Vanity vote is a vote on a wagon that has no legs, you vote there because youre vain and think you know better.

You claim by saying what you are, if youre a town pr I would just say PR for right now, so we dont clue scum in anymore than needed.

do NOT send a screenshot. you cant quote or anything like that. you dont need to claim since no one has stated intent to hammer. a vanity wagon is one that doesnt have momentum, so basically wasting your vote on a non-wagon. also, are you feeling FF to know how foul he feels?

Okay, guys. My role is VT. I’m shit at lying. I’m just bad at this game! Did waves officially claim also?

Thanks for the vanity-vote explanation.

I’m trying to feel him. But I think he’s not scum. Gut feeling.

I think they are going to get me either way and I have no PR. Hahaha I’m so bad strategically. I’m like the squirrel in the Rose that gets killed cause I’m indecisive! Bye everyone

It seems fairly evident to me that Freddie was a flustered newbie who didn't understand when or if he should claim. He also received contradictory advice when he asked, with one person telling him not to claim at all, and another telling him to claim but not to specify his exact role if he is a PR.

With the benefit of experience and competency, I can infer that the latter advice was meant to be for *if* Freddie chose to claim, and was not expressly commanding him to do so, but I doubt a flustered newbie would be able to confidently discern the difference.

Battle Mage, can you explain exactly what you believe Freddie's thought process was with regards to the alleged "slip" in the his claim?

[Dunnstral]

Uh... I agree with what Battle mage pointed out. In post 1122 quoted above, the implication/thought process is that Freddie was considering fake claiming, but they're not good at it so they're not going to, so they're 'just' claiming VT