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[Socratés]

VOTE: Acryon

I don’t like this distraction. Don’t love acryon but we need to settle me vs. crimson now, please, if you don’t mind.

I am of the mind currently that you and Crimsons are the distractions, my porky friend.
Might I remind you that Crimson was the first vote on you and the instigator of the attack - does qualify as a "risk", does it not?
I recall countless examples of townsfolk stubborn and frustrated when pushed.

Feel free to continue pushing Crimson, but I have a stronger reason to vote Acryon: his towncase of Beeboy is overdone and overexplained in a manner that seems like it's scum trying to fake justifying a strong townread with a chain of generic reasons.

[Crimson97]

Porkens. If i'm right and you're scum then we can look inside my wagon for scum, if i'm wrong then scum probably left this discussion happen to cause chaos and we look at the people who didn't give their opinions. That was another thing i wanted to do with your wagon, i think enough time has passed that everyone who wanted to give their opinion on Porkens v Me has given it. People who didn't well, that's noted.

[Crimson97]

Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

[Crimson97]

Me: Porkens is scum.
Porkens: ur bad.
Me: ur bad.
Porkens: woah so schoolgroundish.

Not to mention Porkens. You still only have two attempts at scumhunting outside of our interactions. Keep trying to convince people you've scumhunted more than me, i wanna see that.

[Socratés]

Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

And what have you learnt? Elaborate.

[acryon]

VOTE: Acryon

I don’t like this distraction. Don’t love acryon but we need to settle me vs. crimson now, please, if you don’t mind.

Feel free to continue pushing Crimson, but I have a stronger reason to vote Acryon: his towncase of Beeboy is overdone and overexplained in a manner that seems like it's scum trying to fake justifying a strong townread with a chain of generic reasons.

You asked for a "list of reasons". I went and found specific posts to give them to you and that's scummy?

Anyway I've been meaning to take a better look at this game but I'll do that tomorrow

Quoting this to hold you to it.

VOTE: Acryon

I don’t like this distraction. Don’t love acryon but we need to settle me vs. crimson now, please, if you don’t mind.

I am literally under no desire to settle that right now.
I like you less but I haven't ruled out TvT and I could even be completely wrong on the game.

Your 1v1 isn't this game degrading thing that needs to be settled.

Basically totally agree with this.

[Socratés]

You asked for a "list of reasons". I went and found specific posts to give them to you and that's scummy?

So if I had asked "why do you townread him" instead of "provide a list of reasons" you would have responded differently?

[acryon]

You asked for a "list of reasons". I went and found specific posts to give them to you and that's scummy?

So if I had asked "why do you townread him" instead of "provide a list of reasons" you would have responded differently?

Not necessarily, but my point is that you asked for reasons then criticized me actually giving them to you, which feels disingenuous. I have a feeling if I gave you a response you deemed weak, you would have found an issue with that as well.

Do you disagree with my reasons?

[Crimson97]

Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

And what have you learnt? Elaborate.

The things you learn from any wagon. Who sides with who, who takes a neutral spot and who decided to not get into the discussion. Also whatever Espeonage is doing. As the game developes these interactions will become more meaningful.

[acryon]

Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

And what have you learnt? Elaborate.

The things you learn from any wagon. Who sides with who, who takes a neutral spot and who decided to not get into the discussion. Also whatever Espeonage is doing. As the game developes these interactions will become more meaningful.

This is town.

[Porkens]

I’m throwing my hands up here. Anyone who can’t see the blatant self centered scum nature of crimson’s “defense” just doesn’t want to see it.
It is completely irrelevant that he voted me first. What I’ve said about him is all true regardless of that fact, and the comparison is the real distraction.
If there’s a more compelling scum case from or for any player, I’ll hear it but for now I’m here.

[Porkens]

Crimson, it is as though after the Porkens vote, you have solely focused on either Porkens or defense of yourself. Do you not want to learn the alignments of other players on your wagon, or in the game?

I wanted to wait a little to see what opinions people would give without me interfering.

And what have you learnt? Elaborate.

The things you learn from any wagon. Who sides with who, who takes a neutral spot and who decided to not get into the discussion. Also whatever Espeonage is doing. As the game developes these interactions will become more meaningful.

This is town.

No, it’s pointing out the obvious, which may be designed to make YOU nod along and say yep I agree with that so it must be coming from town.

[Socratés]

Not necessarily, but my point is that you asked for reasons then criticized me actually giving them to you, which feels disingenuous. I have a feeling if I gave you a response you deemed weak, you would have found an issue with that as well.

Do you disagree with my reasons?

Quite the contrary - I'm looking for legitimacy and genuineness, not weak or strong.
Having weak reasons to townread someone is fine, in context.
You say you would give the same response independent of the manner in which I asked it - and my assessment of it is that it is scummy.

Do you not think that your towncase is a valid basis for me to make a read?

[Socratés]

The things you learn from any wagon. Who sides with who, who takes a neutral spot and who decided to not get into the discussion. Also whatever Espeonage is doing. As the game developes these interactions will become more meaningful.

Yes, and what have you learnt from it?
Who sided with who? Who took a neutral spot? Who decided not to get into it?
What meaning do you derive from all of it

right now

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Unless you are saying that you will refuse to scumhunt elsewhere for an indefinite amount of time while you and Porkens attack each other - is that a correct assessment?

[beeboy]

ngl I town read Socrates.
I dig his posts.

[Porkens]

Agree-ish.

Beeboys posts on the other hand make me suspicious.

Same for acryon, perhaps less acutely

[acryon]

Not necessarily, but my point is that you asked for reasons then criticized me actually giving them to you, which feels disingenuous. I have a feeling if I gave you a response you deemed weak, you would have found an issue with that as well.

Do you disagree with my reasons?

Quite the contrary - I'm looking for legitimacy and genuineness, not weak or strong.
Having weak reasons to townread someone is fine, in context.
You say you would give the same response independent of the manner in which I asked it - and my assessment of it is that it is scummy.

Do you not think that your towncase is a valid basis for me to make a read?

On beeboy? Yes.

[Socratés]

On beeboy? Yes

And I have done exactly that - formed a read on you from your towncase. You agree that I can. So why is it disingenuous?

I shall note that you haven't attacked me over the substance of my attack on you, but rather the fact that I attacked you.

[acryon]

On beeboy? Yes

And I have done exactly that - formed a read on you from your towncase. You agree that I can. So why is it disingenuous?

I shall note that you haven't attacked me over the substance of my attack on you, but rather the fact that I attacked you.

Sorry I meant I thought my towncase was valid as a basis for you to discuss a read on beeboy, not a read on me. And I don't even think that creating a read based on it is disingenuous. It just felt disingenuous for you to seemingly be calling me out on something that you specifically asked me for. Disingenuous is probably too strong a term for what I am trying to get at.

I haven't attacked you because you're likely town.

[JacksonVirgo]

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[Porkens]

K peace out y’all let me know if y’all get yo shit together

[Elsa Jay]

Don't bother with Espionage. With a restriction like that, they gotta be town. Not like anyone can understand them anyway. It's more like a semi useless innocent child.

[Socratés]

It just felt disingenuous for you to seemingly be calling me out on something that you specifically asked me for. Disingenuous is probably too strong a term for what I am trying to get at.

I understand what you are trying to explain; still, my read on you holds. If you make a compelling case for the lynch of another, I shall consider switching.

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What efforts have you made to understand him, so far?