lange nonal 227 OHHH!!!! OHHH!!!!! ITS OVER OHHHHHH!!!! OHHH

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

Vote count 3.1

Albert B. Rampage (3):

stan1ey, NDMath, farside22

stan1ey (1):

votato

not voting (7):

Madonna, popopopopopopo, midwaybear, word321, Aloratom, NorwegianboyEE, Albert B. Rampage

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 3 ends june 11th at 21:05 central US time; in (expired on 2020-06-11 21:05:00)

mod notes

• farside22 is VLA

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: stanley

[word321]

norwee fucked up big time
dnt worry, norwee; i fcked up in worse situations

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overall, i think alberts justification fits

too

well
he couldnt have gone to nahdia on d1, cause he is even; he went to stanley, a person he had shown suspiciousness upon; and he preserved nahdia, but with knowledge he could have confirmed or detracted her role information that same night.
so overall, i think its at a point where its hard to pull off that one in such a gratuitous way, considering he wasnt in real danger.
the info hypothesis maybe was an overread, but its not like its implausible.

on the other side, stanley "got pulled" into the situation, and claimed a role thats insanely useful for scum, and would have rejected an info gathering on nahdia; so as scum he is either claiming another role wich would add to the info hypothesis on that sense, or he is not scum (a role

blocker

would be more useful to gather a claim on norwee, but a rolestopper can gather claims indirectly by everyone who actually tried to target norwee; since he himself targeted norwee, that means he think he is an obvtown, wich adds to the hypothesis of hunting defensive roles). Im kind of on the fece on the plausability of a roleblocker; a roleblocker, balance dictates, must have other defensive roles with blocking capabilities, cause if that was not the case, a defensive chain of unkillable confirmed towns would be able to form upon revealing one of them. so it fits an alien.

ultimately, upon loss evaluation, I think the cop is more important (albeit this point is moot with the lack of another protection role), cause i think the roleblocker is more "killable" from the above (and the presence of another defensive role may indicate the ausence of other ones). of course, its hard to think of the cop surviving; but if there is an odd protection role, it can bait a kill, and if is something like a doc, he can still perform his work one last time.

Overall, its such a bad idea as scum to do, that id go with a town albert scum stanley. we have at least one scum, and this situation also inclines to the one who initiated things.

[word321]

since he himself targeted

allegedly under the hypothesis, if that was not clear; the important think is the mentality

[word321]

think

thing

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your longer sentences are a bit hard to understand, can you do a tl;dr point by point of why you believe Albert= town and Stan= Scum?

[word321]

wait, circulat hought:
why would he hunt defensive roles with an event alien dead?
but then, claiming one as scum would mean he still think its possible
but then it is more probable as town; but that still means he think its possible
wich goes to the begining

[word321]

main guidelines(as in gut):
-alberts claim is an horrible idea with so many players if he is scum; stanley got pulled into this; so overall that inclines to albert
main guidelines (claim evaluation):
-alberts claim fits urs; it also perfectly fits everything up to that point on his game, so we would need to think he manages to pull such a claim, on an uncalled situation, and fitting everythin perfectly
-on the other hand, stanleys claim fits the alien, cause rolestoppers cant have a doctor or something to do a healing chain and be "immortal townies"; on the other hand, it goes to an excess of defensive roles. the role is good material for baits, though, cause if ppl got blocked trying to heal the at most apparently under his perception most townread player at the time, they could claim; but theres a hole on that hypothesis (see above)
-upon loss evaluation, it is more convenient to town to have a cop if there is an odd defensive role, cause it can bait kills, and there r less probabilities of having a healer if we have a rolestopper (those would be 3 defensive roles)

overall, things fit better with an albert actually being honest, and r more convenient overall.
i do want to hear full perceptions of the game from both slots.

[votato]

i think before the day ends it would be worth discussing whether this is multiball, whether we have multiple vigs, 3p, or whether scum just had an extra kill of some sort.

[popopopopopopo]

i think before the day ends it would be worth discussing whether this is multiball, whether we have multiple vigs, 3p, or whether scum just had an extra kill of some sort.

do you even read or do you just come in and post nonsense every few days

[midwaybear]

boi there's no 3p and I doubt it's multiball

[votato]

i think before the day ends it would be worth discussing whether this is multiball, whether we have multiple vigs, 3p, or whether scum just had an extra kill of some sort.

do you even read or do you just come in and post nonsense every few days

not really

[votato]

boi there's no 3p and I doubt it's multiball

i thought we established that there could be a single 3p in a large normal?

[popopopopopopo]

there are only town and mafia.

[votato]

wait but im the serial killer...

[farside22]

UNVOTE:

I'm gonna die tonight anyway, then lynch stanley.

Just going to say there is no way on God's green Earth town ABR unvotes a player he says hes got a guilty on. He would ahove that shit so fast and far up everyone's ass hard.
Go read guns and roses mafia with his toxic (well very strong and aggressive) pushes at the end of day 1.

*on a personal note, i chatted with friends doing a bit better and will be throwing my weight around more tomorrow*

[word321]

Theres something thats been bothering for a while.
U seem to have played with albert before; and i can even buy u thinking some characteristic like that from his meta.
But why did he claim now as scum? im having a hard time weighting this with that.
The whole point is that this would be rly bad play at the stage the game is at.

I have theorized before of a stanley/farside; but if we lynch albert and he flips a cop this would be such an obvious bad play it would be hard not to see whats coming next. It would be a festivity of bad plays at this point. So im willing to hear ur explanation on that, as to why u weight more that particular argument of the game and why u think its not unusual to claim now.

[word321]

just notices i worded terribly wrong almost every post i made on the last 3 days or so
just so ppl can see college is bad for ur (gramatical) health

[farside22]

Theres something thats been bothering for a while.
U seem to have played with albert before; and i can even buy u thinking some characteristic like that from his meta.
But why did he claim now as scum? im having a hard time weighting this with that.
The whole point is that this would be rly bad play at the stage the game is at.

I have theorized before of a stanley/farside; but if we lynch albert and he flips a cop this would be such an obvious bad play it would be hard not to see whats coming next. It would be a festivity of bad plays at this point. So im willing to hear ur explanation on that, as to why u weight more that particular argument of the game and why u think its not unusual to claim now.

Let me know if you want my hot take on it. It's my last offer for any game I will ever make.

Yeah, go ahead.
I'm starting to feel riled up by Albert's charisma. So i could definitely use some alternate viewpoints on this right now.

lol it is pretty funny
idk why he would go so hard to get you lynched as scum though

Here is my hot take which is why I quoted Midway post as a reference.

See Abr before the claim was put under pressure. He already had a wagon and a case on him and now he has convoluted a storyline to use as a means to get his point across. The main question that midway asked is really simple. He was looking to be the player that most were looking to lynch today and as scum he saves himself one game day but creating this storyline.
So it's not a 1vs1 story that players are looking at it is what scum abr gains from doing this. He gains one more day and lynches another player instead of himself. He can also out a real CC in the process of doing all those actions.
I see more stan making a case, putting together idea's where I see Abr using manipulation to gain credit with the hopes that he will survive as scum one more day, because scum would love not only to see a now PR claim lynched but make sure they are not lynched back to back.


*drops mic*

[farside22]

Now lets me ask a question back word or to anyone.
Have you ever seen a cop with a guilty on a player unvote before?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Now lets me ask a question back word or to anyone.
Have you ever seen a cop with a guilty on a player unvote before?

Yes. Usually noobs tho.

[farside22]

Now lets me ask a question back word or to anyone.
Have you ever seen a cop with a guilty on a player unvote before?

Yes. Usually noobs tho.

Abr is not a noob.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I trust Farside more.
VOTE: Albert

[Albert B. Rampage]

I trust Farside more.
VOTE: Albert

I unvoted BECAUSE OF YOU. You deserve to lose me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Farside is scum then i accept the loss. I just think you’ve been kinda manipulative and i didn’t like how you said Farside was Stan’s scum buddy earlier when Farside went against you.
It’s not so much that you unvoted.