Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[lilith2013]

hmm i think pp should be more to the right in that list, maybe below fb in the order

[Something_Smart]

in other news, i attempted to run errands for the first time since quarantine started, which turned into an unmitigated disaster. i’m now stranded and not really sure how i’m going to get home? my train is all fucked up so it’s probably going to take me two hours to get home, and i’m carrying three large and extremely heavy bags. so today was/is fun

Big rip. Hope everything is all right.

[skitter30]

vla for a few days, as i am sick :/

I will try to catch up soonish

[Bingle]

This is just an assumption at the end of the day. It’s also one with no merit. If I was able to be caught or meta read off one or two scum games my win rate wouldn’t be as high as it is. Because I would lose more often than not. Clearly that isn’t the case. Yes I got lynched day 1 in a ‘recent’ game but that is the first time it’s ever happened. Your entire argument is just doesn’t work here.

Now you voting me because you don’t think SS is partners with Lilith would be fine if you made any type of progress. But I fail to see that.

Yes, my gamestate read is based on an assumption that I can read the gamestate. The rest of your argument ignores pretty much everything I've said. Do I have a strong reason to scumread you? No. Do I have any reason to town read you? No.

I also don't think I need to explain why I think SS/Lilith is less likely S/S, given that pretty much everyone in the thread has played at least one game of mafia.

[skitter30]

The most obvious town after this would normally be Bingle, but I'm actually a lot less certain about his alignment mainly because of something specific he mentioned a bit earlier.

I will dig out quotes sometime later to be sure that I'm remembering correctly.

if you haven't done the bolded yet, can you do so ?

biiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggglllllllllleeeeeee should i be voting you rn? i was kinda hoping for some kind of reaction .

[PenguinPower]

biiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggglllllllllleeeeeee

lilith

[skitter30]

hat means I need to break into the random townblock that has been made and quite frankly that isn't going to happen with how people see me at the moment.

in what way is the townbloc random and/or why do you disagree with it?

[skitter30]

Like I am waiting for some points against me along the lines of: 'You pushed gobbles as scum' and that is a very valid reason I can think to scumread me.

you called me scum for saying that way back when

[skitter30]

in other news, i attempted to run errands for the first time since quarantine started, which turned into an unmitigated disaster. i’m now stranded and not really sure how i’m going to get home? my train is all fucked up so it’s probably going to take me two hours to get home, and i’m carrying three large and extremely heavy bags. so today was/is fun

oh dear
i hope you managed to get home ok!
remind me why your'e scumreading/voting blake again?

[skitter30]

does anybody else think bingle/mariar could be a thing?

[Bingle]

The most obvious town after this would normally be Bingle, but I'm actually a lot less certain about his alignment mainly because of something specific he mentioned a bit earlier.

I will dig out quotes sometime later to be sure that I'm remembering correctly.

if you haven't done the bolded yet, can you do so ?

biiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggglllllllllleeeeeee should i be voting you rn? i was kinda hoping for some kind of reaction .

I don't think you *should* but I don't have a particular issue if you do.

[skitter30]

i mean i guess if the person townreading me the most votes me i would ... maybe try to do something about it?

[Bingle]

i mean i guess if the person townreading me the most votes me i would ... maybe try to do something about it?

Why?

Generally when people vote me my response is one of two things: I derail my wagon or I use their vote to attempt to read them. I don't see the former as immensely valuable with my gamestate read and I don't need to do the latter. To me, your vote on me is a complete nonentity and engaging with it is a waste of the motivation I have to spend on this game.

[Menalque]

in other news, i attempted to run errands for the first time since quarantine started, which turned into an unmitigated disaster. i’m now stranded and not really sure how i’m going to get home? my train is all fucked up so it’s probably going to take me two hours to get home, and i’m carrying three large and extremely heavy bags. so today was/is fun

Big rip. Hope everything is all right.

+1

also @skitter I hope you feel better soon

[skitter30]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaame

should i vote mariar?

[Menalque]

does anybody else think bingle/mariar could be a thing?

y-e-s

I just said this...

[Menalque]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaame

should i vote mariar?

I would be happy with you proxy voting her so that we can get a claim, but she said she was gonna respond to me and I'm okay waiting

[Menalque]

Early as in early day, not before there's been much content.

I think I've already talked about the world where lilith is scum? It's the one where her buddies have decided to bus her for some reason or another, probably to make themselves look good, and they chose to commit to it even when my wagon was looking more likely. This is definitely a play she's capable of making, and probably one she'd agree to since she's a good team player.

Do you think that world isn't plausible or likely?

well idk, I don't think it matters that much which day we're technically in versus how much content has come out in that time. is there less concrete information? sure, but there's like 130 pages to base a read on MariaR on.

I don't really see why scum chose to bus Lilith for ~*looking good*~ reasons on D2 when they could just... not do that? like the best case I can see is maaaaybe going for distancing and then getting stuck as the wagon grew but like... I pushed the wagon so I know it wasn't started from a scum-motivated perspective which makes that less likely imo. I don't think what you're saying is impossible, but I think it's more likely that (provided my TRs are broadly correct) scum decided to straddle across two wagons being pushed by town than just bus lilith for the hell of it

[Menalque]

@lilith why do you want to lynch Blake the most and Maria the least?

[skitter30]

Like I am waiting for some points against me along the lines of: 'You pushed gobbles as scum' and that is a very valid reason I can think to scumread me.

you called me scum for saying that way back when

i just want to highlight this because way back 100 pages ago when mariar first pushed gobbles i said hte push was awful and she called me scum for pushing her back for her push on him

[Menalque]

hey skitter if I said (MariaR, Blake, Bingle) what would you say you thought of that?

[Something_Smart]

I don't really see why scum chose to bus Lilith for ~*looking good*~ reasons on D2 when they could just... not do that? like the best case I can see is maaaaybe going for distancing and then getting stuck as the wagon grew but like... I pushed the wagon so I know it wasn't started from a scum-motivated perspective which makes that less likely imo. I don't think what you're saying is impossible, but I think it's more likely that (provided my TRs are broadly correct) scum decided to straddle across two wagons being pushed by town than just bus lilith for the hell of it

You're probably right. I tend to derive an undue amount of glee as scum from screwing with VCA and so it's definitely the type of thing I would do. I also tend to bus pretty hard when I feel like the partner is going to go down sooner or later, and I would expect there are a decent amount of people who have that similar philosophy, but you're probably right that it's less common than I'm making it out to be.

[skitter30]

hey skitter if I said (MariaR, Blake, Bingle) what would you say you thought of that?

at least one scum in that group, i would say

[Menalque]

how about three for three?

[skitter30]

ss do u think it's more likely that lilith got bussed or that you're both tvt

pedit i don't think it's 3/3