Open 784 - Hard-Boiled (Town Wins!)

[superbowl9]

Spoiler:

Battle Mage gives me like 16 tonnes of resonance every time he posts. He's active and engaged, he's scumhunting, he's tonally squeaky clean.
I don't have substantial logical reason for why he is town, but this is one of the stronger gutreads I've had in my mafia career.

Got it, but be careful not to ride gutreads too far! They can be your best friend and worst enemy

lets be honest, everything is a gutread. sometimes we just pretend we have better reasoning.

This is true, which is why aside from townblocing people for shorter amounts of time, it's good to be able to change your reads. Hence deimos should not ride this very strong townread the rest of the game without examination

do you think deimos was doing that? what are you trying to get at here?

Nah, I agree that BM's posting resonates with me quite well and touches all the points I would want to touch, I am just worried about setting them as town for that - I think scum could do the same thing. I don't want Deimos to fall into the trap of hearing resonant posting and townreading for the whole game because of it. Stuff like that is how good scum easily win games.

[Midari Ikishima]

What happened to your self explanatory marashu case???

Imagine my vote is there. I don't want any accidents. I tend not to trust people when it comes to L-1.

So I understand BM has the same thoughts you do super?

[Midari Ikishima]

an idea:

if we can make it through Day 1 without outting the hider, would it be sensible for everyone to claim a name they would target if they were the hider? this way if the hider dies without their target dying, we will likely have 1 confirmed scum? probably most helpful if we try and get a reasonable diverse spread of names too.

Counter-point

And if there is a vig? And the hider hides behind them then they are dead as well. Ala Clint Eastwood style. So then you create a false positive and in the end lynching a town PR in the bigger picture.

[Doctor Drew]

Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.

So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.

I have said the same thing, basically verbatim, as Worcestershire. Also this shade buy Midari just comes off as really trying to act townie, but still scummy.

whoops. If im not invested im probably town

I hate how people can use this as a tell.
It's like oh I'm not scum I'm just going to fuck off for a bit. Ironically you can manipulate this and flip it so you just fly under the radar.

well my case rests primarily on midari being scum. but if that isnt enough reason for you to vote someone (FoS on you again), midari's tone/style doesnt match town!midari. more to come.

How many games have you seen me in from the start in? Most times I've replaced into games where I have to figure out the motivation from the slot before me. It's quite aggravating sometimes just for how people can muck up a slot.

This is fantastic, Midari contradicts herself in the same post!

How dare you use self meta as a town tell!

Btw, my self meta that makes me town is 'this'.

[superbowl9]

Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.

So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.

The fact that we can't look past a little slip of not seeing something and me moving because "heat" I find a bit disturbing as I'm not sure how many games you have been apart of where "oh that was a hammer" has happened in games you have been in. I've been around long enough to have it happen more times then I want to admit. Call it what you want. It's mildly infuriating.


I don't understand what superbowl9 is getting at roughly with the town block and what have you and what not l. Maybe I'm a bit delusional but I would expect everyone's reads to change at some point in this game otherwise this is going to get ugly quickly.

Heavy townping from this, don't think noobish scum with heavy cognitive load would see big backlash from a clear mistake and say "Why cant we move past this little slip??" Scum would try to justify more

[superbowl9]

So I understand BM has the same thoughts you do super?

More or less. I agree with his thought process a bunch and share some of his reads, but I have Worchestire and pi/nash null and you townlean, also slight scum on word.

[Doctor Drew]

So I understand BM has the same thoughts you do super?

More or less. I agree with his thought process a bunch and share some of his reads, but I have Worchestire and pi/nash null and you townlean, also slight scum on word.

Apologies if you have already, but walk me through your Midari town lean?

[votato]

im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though

[Doctor Drew]

im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though

Everyone is a Hectic or A50 alt.

[votato]

im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though

Everyone is a Hectic or A50 alt.

pls dont out my main drew. god dammit

[superbowl9]

Well the townping I just got sort of pushed it over the edge into town lean, but I was quite in agreement with Deimos in 284 that she gives out noobtown vibes.

[superbowl9]

Drew are you a Hectic alt? The game rests on this

[superbowl9]

Also would like to claim my fame and glory for predicting we would not have a lynch by pg 20

[superbowl9]

an idea:

if we can make it through Day 1 without outting the hider, would it be sensible for everyone to claim a name they would target if they were the hider? this way if the hider dies without their target dying, we will likely have 1 confirmed scum? probably most helpful if we try and get a reasonable diverse spread of names too.

Counter-point

And if there is a vig? And the hider hides behind them then they are dead as well. Ala Clint Eastwood style. So then you create a false positive and in the end lynching a town PR in the bigger picture.

Tracker seems like the much better/more obvious selection in this setup no?

But this is true, I missed that hider going behind vig would kill them

[Doctor Drew]

Well the townping I just got sort of pushed it over the edge into town lean, but I was quite in agreement with Deimos in 284 that she gives out noobtown vibes.

I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.

Drew are you a Hectic alt? The game rests on this

Hectic is my creation, brought him into the world to sow confusion and awesomeness.

[superbowl9]

I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.

This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho

[word321]

I beg tp differ
I want to lynch midari at this point tbh
VOTE: Midari Ikishima

[word321]

but first I still want to hear from marashu
and while we r at it, brass herald should give a take after coming back from vla

[word321]

i dnt like the apologies and transition to worc after the L-1 thing

[word321]

do u think newbtowns take the initiative on the hunt on the second most suspicious person after a mistake of that caliber, not taken it on that magnitude previously on the game?

[Doctor Drew]

I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.

This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho

Who's talking policy lynch on lurkers, I don't know why you brought that up?

I am talking making excuses for scummy behavior.

[votato]

I beg tp differ
I want to lynch midari at this point tbh
VOTE: Midari Ikishima

why?

[word321]

Player List
piisirattional
Battle Mage
Marashu
Deimos27
votato
ceejayvinoya
brassherald
superbowl9
Midari Ikishima
Worcestershire
word321
Doctor Drew
Tuxedo Mask

and about the hider thing, a quick way to do it is the hider aiming for the player next to him on the player list; that way, everyone has a possibility of being hid upon, assuming uniform distribution (the odd of a hider being behind u given u r not the tracker is 1/12)

[word321]

I beg tp differ
I want to lynch midari at this point tbh
VOTE: Midari Ikishima

why?

the first wagon pinged me wrong. recend development is no better.

[word321]

give me a sec and i can make a case