Mini Normal 2149 | Philosophers | Over

[Blair]

You were finally convinced with... the exact same sentence from the wiki that both myself and the mod quoted in the first place. I think the "make sure" part was accomplished already.

[Blair]

It really really doesn't make sense to direct the NK of the Vig and you really really should know better than that.

Good thing I was only directing the night kill of a fake vig, then.

As in, forcing scum to kill where we want them to kill to prove their fake claim? You seem to have left the part where I knew he was lying out of your calculus.

... Or have you? You didn't actually vote for me for this awful plan until after I claimed. Hm.

[LicketyQuickety]

You were finally convinced with... the exact same sentence from the wiki that both myself and the mod quoted in the first place. I think the "make sure" part was accomplished already.

Mods do make errors sometimes and you know they do because you have been playing long enough.

[LicketyQuickety]

Good thing I was only directing the night kill of a fake vig, then.

Except if you are Mafia and Truth is Town it makes perfect sense to direct the kill there.

[Blair]

It was a quote from the Normal standards on the Wiki. That would be a hell of a lot more than a mod error.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this the hill you want to die on Quick? I don't think i've ever seen a mini normal with a serial killer. In fact, i think it's explicitly stated it's not NORMAL. Only for large games is it acceptable to include a third faction.

[LicketyQuickety]

It really really doesn't make sense to direct the NK of the Vig and you really really should know better than that.

Good thing I was only directing the night kill of a fake vig, then.

As in, forcing scum to kill where we want them to kill to prove their fake claim? You seem to have left the part where I knew he was lying out of your calculus.

... Or have you? You didn't actually vote for me for this awful plan until after I claimed. Hm.

You know, if you didn't come across so pompous and self centered all the time my reasons for SRing you every game would probably go down drastically.

[Blair]

Good thing I was only directing the night kill of a fake vig, then.

Except if you are Mafia and Truth is Town it makes perfect sense to direct the kill there.

You know what I find really interesting? The way you've been underselling a weak case on Truth sense Day 1 right up until the moment someone suggests eliminating him, and then you suddenly have this epiphany that maybe that's a bad idea after all. With no progression whatsoever.

[Blair]

You know, if you didn't come across so pompous and self centered all the time my reasons for SRing you every game would probably go down drastically.

I take this as an admission that your scumreads are, like I have been saying in all of our games for a while now, personal rather than factual. Noted.

Also: (irony)

[LicketyQuickety]

Is this the hill you want to die on Quick? I don't think i've ever seen a mini normal with a serial killer. In fact, i think it's explicitly stated it's not NORMAL. Only for large games is it acceptable to include a third faction.

I believe I have played Mini Normals with SKs in them. I would also point you to the fact no one corrected me in the last mini normal where I brought up someone I was SRing could be SK. *looks at Blair*

But no, my point is no longer that there must be a SK in the game. I dropped that last night. My point is that what Blair is calling Scummy from me falls well within my Town meta as Nauci could very well confirm if she wanted to.

[LicketyQuickety]

You know, if you didn't come across so pompous and self centered all the time my reasons for SRing you every game would probably go down drastically.

I take this as an admission that your scumreads are, like I have been saying in all of our games for a while now, personal rather than factual. Noted.

Also: (irony)

The thing is, being pompous and self centered goes along really well with people who are genuinely good at Scum and as such, I find that particular trait pretty hard to TR.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So you are very good at scum Quick? Noted.

[Blair]

The thing is, being pompous and self centered goes along really well with people who are genuinely good at Scum and as such, I find that particular trait pretty hard to TR.

How pompous and self centered would someone need to be in order to suggest that the way they particularly scumhunt should change a person's entire line of behavior as a player going forward?

[LicketyQuickety]

The thing is, being pompous and self centered goes along really well with people who are genuinely good at Scum and as such, I find that particular trait pretty hard to TR.

How pompous and self centered would someone need to be in order to suggest that the way they particularly scumhunt should change a person's entire line of behavior as a player going forward?

I don't actually understand what you are saying here.

It's mostly just that I have a gripe with people who prioritize their Scum game over their Town game. You've demonstrated that you don't really care to play "fair" and/or "honestly" which are also traits that people who prioritize their Scum game over their Town game tend to exhibit.

[LicketyQuickety]

So you are very good at scum Quick? Noted.

I'm not pompous for one. Self centered, maybe, but I don't act like I am better than other people.

[popopopopopopo]

thank you quick, the only reasonable logical player right now it seems

[popopopopopopo]

vote:blair

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, obvscum is siding with you Quick. Maybe time to think things through again.

[Blair]

I don't act like I am better than other people.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah, obvscum is siding with you Quick. Maybe time to think things through again.

I'll evaluate as the game goes on.

[LicketyQuickety]

I don't act like I am better than other people.

Tell you what. You let me know when the last time you let a homeless person into your own home to help them and we will compare from there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You just proved her point...

[LicketyQuickety]

You just proved her point...

Why are you getting involved here? Is it somehow unfair what I am doing? Or is it just that you think Blair is a better player than me so I don't really deserve to say what I am saying?

[Blair]

I don't act like I am better than other people.

Tell you what. You let me know when the last time you let a homeless person into your own home to help them and we will compare from there.

Acts of charity have nothing to do with whether or not someone is pompous or arrogant. This is irrelevant AtE.

The thing is, being pompous and self centered goes along really well with people who are genuinely good at Scum and as such, I find that particular trait pretty hard to TR.

How pompous and self centered would someone need to be in order to suggest that the way they particularly scumhunt should change a person's entire line of behavior as a player going forward?

I don't actually understand what you are saying here.

It's mostly just that I have a gripe with people who prioritize their Scum game over their Town game. You've demonstrated that you don't really care to play "fair" and/or "honestly" which are also traits that people who prioritize their Scum game over their Town game tend to exhibit.

First of all, I don't prioritize my scum game over my town game. You seem to think I do just because I don't mind being scumread by you in every single game. I am remarkably difficult to mislynch, so my system seems to work out just fine on the whole.

Second:

This is an outright lie. Quick doesn't have a gripe with people who prioritize their scum game over their town game. I learned that about him the first time I played with him on this site:

I didn't answer explicitly for future games. If I always say who I think is Scum or Town, then that can really hurt my Scum game if I can't lie.

[LicketyQuickety]

This is an outright lie. Quick doesn't have a gripe with people who prioritize their scum game over their town game. I learned that about him the first time I played with him on this site:

In Newbie 2000, Quick wrote:
I didn't answer explicitly for future games. If I always say who I think is Scum or Town, then that can really hurt my Scum game if I can't lie.

I don't prioritize my Scum game over my Town game, I just don't want to spill everything I say about my Scum game. There is a difference. Also, I was complaining about people prioritizing their Scum game over their Town game years ago. I will try and find quotes if you press me on this.

First thing you should know about me, Blair, is that I play a fairly honest game as both Town and Scum. Not saying I never lie as Scum, but I do it a LOT less then people who prioritize their Scum game over their Town game. I'm generally a pretty honest person.