Newbie 2014: Aesthetic | Game Over

[LicketyQuickety]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

excuse you? yes, me dropping off while on VLA is totally AI. i did defend why you're scum. i picked one game to link, but pretty much every game ive been with you was the same, except when you lurked in all your games and got replaced. but whenever youre active your playstyle is the same.

How do I know you were V/LA?

well i might have posted in the thread about it. i definitely set my site status to VLA and PMd the mod. is this really the push you're gonna me tho? lol. activity is never AI for me.

Did you post itt about it? The mod made no note of you going V/LA

and quick why is anthony town to you?

I don't have anthony as LockTown.

that isnt what i said, nor is it what you said. you listed anthony as a townread. i asked why. dont deflect.

Where did I say I had Anthony as Town?

I feel like Anthony was either over cautious Scum or just Newb Town. Not much else in their ISO, but they did make a good point about Arthur being Town:

I'm hesitant to L-2 Arthur for only one reason (and if someone wants to show me why this is meaningless, then I have no problem voting), does him trying to make sure the vote against him is counted seem anti scum?

the best analysis quick can do, even after a flip is "town would be unlikely to say this non-gamesolving thing" quick is not town here.

Why is it a non-gamsolving thing?

being hesitant to put someone L-2 as a newbie isnt AI. talking about a vote counting isnt really very AI either. its an empty statement. there were statements with real content you could have talked about.

I gave a fair and balanced view of that post. You're throwing some serious shade with really weak arguments. You are definitely playing differently now then elsewhere I have played with you. You are way more aggressive for sure.

[votato]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

here is a three-person PoE that does not include anthony.

[votato]

and you think im more aggressive in this game than youve seen before or less?

[LicketyQuickety]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

here is a three-person PoE that does not include anthony.

Yeah, which doesn't actually mean I was TRing Anthony. This was discussed. I forgot Anthony was even in the game.

[LicketyQuickety]

and you think im more aggressive in this game than youve seen before or less?

More. Usually you attack things without actually being direct about it and letting people see for themselves. That's not what I am seeing now.

[LicketyQuickety]

Your points are also off this game. Like, usually you play in a way that you attack stuff by saying something that INFERS what you are saying rather than pointing things out directly and your points are usually right on the mark.

[LicketyQuickety]

It could be that you are just adjusting your meta since you don't have much experience yet(?) but I doubt it.

[votato]

ok. VOTE: ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

Haha. Nice. Pretty sure Scum PT reads something like this right now: "Get on loot, with Mikul's read on him so strong, it'll be an easy mislynch."

I am happy to walk into the noose because I think, now, we have enough information to win once I flip.

Reads ofc:

• Ydrasse
  getting on me screams of opportunistic eliminating. This bumps the slot right up the scum-o-meter. Although you guys won't see that until my flip.
  
• Nash
  . I think this slot is scum. It's been lurky, it's made scummy posts. Just feels straight up scummy. Can you please fucking focus on Vexo/Nash slot tomorrow?
  
• Like many of you, I have had a niggling feeling that
  LQ
  is town, even though I have been scum reading them for most of the game. I realise this sounds inconsistent AF, but gun to the head, I would probably now say town.
  
• votato is tough, POE suggests town, but they haven't been helpful at all. Their scum record is impeccable, so they play a very good scum game. I think if votato is scum we lose, unless you guys can prove some how Ydrasse or Nash are town.

Conclusion: Ydrasse and Nash are most likely scum team. Although votato could be fucking us. Pretty sure LQ is town.

I am happy to answer any questions, otherwise hammer away.

how is it opportunistic of me? you didn't make an effort to engage with any of my posts or refute them.

if you're town why are you just letting this vote go through instead of making an effort to engage and scumhunt? i get that this day has dragged so there's some fatigue, but fmpov this reads more like a frustrated/disheartened scum player who is trying to last-minute get out of being lynched. which like, i recognize might be because i am sitting here thinking you are scummy from going through the game once but just saying "yeah you guys have enough information go ahead" isn't fun.

can you quote some of nash's scummy posts? our reads list is the opposite right now it seems like and if you're town i want your perspective on this.

[Ydrasse]

@mod: v/la until 7/5

(sorry that it's like immediately after subbing in.)

[LicketyQuickety]

I hate posting from my phone.

Unrealated to the game, but I share this sentiment SO SO MUCH. Phones and Mafia are a horrible horrible combination.

[keyenpeydee]

Vote count 2.08

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[2] Town looter

- Nash, Ydrasse,

[2] Ydrasse

- Lunatic, votato,

[1] Nash

- Town looter,

[1] votato

- LicketyQuickety,

[1] Not Voting

- Mikul,

MOD NOTES

: Good luck!
With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch. Day Two will end in

(expired on 2020-07-04 00:00:00)

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#BlackLivesMatter

[Mikul]

I've debated this game and I'm at a loss with this.

I'm pretty torn

[Mikul]

I'm going to regret this but fuck it.

VOTE: ydra

[Mikul]

Usually when I second guess myself it's when I lose. I hope it actually pays off this time.

[Lunatic]

Yeah I think right now ydrasse or quick are rhe best options

[Mikul]

Yeah I think right now ydrasse or quick are rhe best options

I hate to say I agree with tl. That vote seems to be really manufactured and jump on the wagon feel

[Mikul]

If he flips scum that basically all but confirms tl

[Ydrasse]

none of you have even tried to engage me and have simply decided i’m scum.

second guessing or not you should do your due diligence to perhaps figure out how/why i have come to conclusions that i have.

[Mikul]

none of you have even tried to engage me and have simply decided i’m scum.

second guessing or not you should do your due diligence to perhaps figure out how/why i have come to conclusions that i have.

There are def reasons. I can post why later just on my phone.

[Ydrasse]

please do because i don’t really have anything to respond to here other than “yeah that’s scum.”

[Lunatic]

please do because i don’t really have anything to respond to here other than “yeah that’s scum.”

Here's the thing, we've got a small POE remaining and your in it. Your previous slot was very scummy in his vote dp1. Theres enough there to lynch him already. That and after you replaces I haven't seen anything from you to lessen my read where as I have less inclination to lynch town looter and nas bases on their responses. So it's mostly POE at this point. Also we habe a 50% chance to lynch correctly. The fact that most of the people on your wagon are confirmed town also looks good for the lynch.

[votato]

ydrasse, it sucks for you, but you repped into a scummy slot and PoE was going this direction no matter what.

[Lunatic]

All that plus we have less than a day left. Your lynch is as good as any, and will narrow the next phase down for us even further.

[Ydrasse]

is there really enough based on like, ~10 posts? like, you guys have managed to talk yourselves out of lynching someone who is actually scummy fmpov. the fact that it can be said the poe can go this way without a whole lot of resistance is a sign that mafia is most likely content to take this elimination.