Newbie 2012 - Game Over

[ItalianoVD]

Italiano I'd also like to jam with you next time you come to the thread, do you have any particular townreads/scumreads in the other players right now? Are you getting any scum vibes from either Ydrasse or UNOwen?

Italiano I'd also like to jam with you next time you come to the thread, do you have any particular townreads/scumreads in the other players right now? Are you getting any scum vibes from either Ydrasse or UNOwen?

I’d like to keep my thoughts to myself at the moment. Giving as how I’ve been re-evaluating this game and how my reads have changed a bit, I don’t want to tip off who I’m thinking about and allow them to change up their games or highlight an angle that I bring up and try to use it for their benefit or against someone else. Besides, I think I’ve given enough up to this point to give you an idea of where I’m more or less gonna be leaning.

I will keep asking and answering questions though, but I just feel more comfortable keeping my reads to myself. At least for right now. Talk to me again on Day 3 and if I survive.

[ItalianoVD]

Psshh, that was only supposed to be quoted once.

[DoctorPepper]

Actually I agree with GL.

Yeah, we want you to be today's elimination target.

But the thing is, why waste a day of discussion when we can talk about who else could be scum?

[72offsuit]

To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.

Hypothetical: You have a cop result from day 0 on me that says I;m town.
Who is scum in that scenario?

[MiniMegabyte]

Quick question when does day end?

[MiniMegabyte]

Never mind I found it some reason I though it was sooner than that

[MiniMegabyte]

To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.

Can I ask why I am being scum read? Is there something I am missing?

[GuiltyLion]

Mini, you've barely participated in the game or given an update on your reads. Who do you think is scum rn and why?

[MiniMegabyte]

Mini, you've barely participated in the game or given an update on your reads. Who do you think is scum rn and why?

To be quite honest with you I’m a little lost with this game. I’ve been reading things and re reading but like everyone is voting 72 because they hammered. Then what if he’s town? You’re gonna eliminate another town? I just don’t see why 72 would be scum at all. I just think it’s a bit risky here that you’re voting someone just because they hammered. Or is that how this game is working?

[GuiltyLion]

The issue with 72 is that he hammered without a claim from TTJT. We got lucky that TTJT was a vanilla townie - if he was a valuable role, that would have been a major loss for the town. The standard in games here is to ask for a player who is one vote away from being eliminated to claim their role, to ensure that town does not accidentally kill off their members with night abilities.

72 is well aware of this, yet hammered anyway. That's far more likely a calculated move to benefit scum than a mistake as town.

[MiniMegabyte]

Same, I hope you have a good night Jt
72 definitely does not come off so great off of the lynch if jt is town
.

I question again why? Is it just because they hammered? I’m not really understanding the thoughts behind this

[MiniMegabyte]

The issue with 72 is that he hammered without a claim from TTJT. We got lucky that TTJT was a vanilla townie - if he was a valuable role, that would have been a major loss for the town. The standard in games here is to ask for a player who is one vote away from being eliminated to claim their role, to ensure that town does not accidentally kill off their members with night abilities.

72 is well aware of this, yet hammered anyway. That's far more likely a calculated move to benefit scum than a mistake as town.

Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?

[MiniMegabyte]

I can’t seem to see if 72 has claimed yet

[MiniMegabyte]

Like I can’t find a post where they have claimed if they have

[WaltertheDunce10]

To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.

What do you think of my argument about why 72-Mini is an unlikely scum team?

To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.

Hypothetical: You have a cop result from day 0 on me that says I;m town.
Who is scum in that scenario?

I am not too sure about it but I do see where you are coming from on the 72 mini bit.
I will have to think on that.

If that was true, this would cause me to suspect gl or Italiano more.

[UNOwen]

There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.

Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?

He has not claimed yet.

[UNOwen]

But the thing is, why waste a day of discussion when we can talk about who else could be scum?

Do you have any suggestions on this topic?

[72offsuit]

Yep scum is really quaking in their boots with all the scumhunting.

[MiniMegabyte]

There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.

Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?

He has not claimed yet.

So there is talk about when people are 1 vote away from being eliminated the person is to claim but 72 hasn’t claimed yet? Can I ask why?

[72offsuit]

There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.

Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?

He has not claimed yet.

So there is talk about when people are 1 vote away from being eliminated the person is to claim but 72 hasn’t claimed yet? Can I ask why?

The standard of play, is that if someone is willing to be the final voter on a lynch, they declare INTENT TO HAMMER.

When they do so, the person at risk of being lynched claims at this point in time. Until that occurs, claiming is -EV for town.

[72offsuit]

EBWOP elimination*, sry

[DoctorPepper]

In the interest of ensuring this game isnt stalled by the eventuality of 72's lynch

Rest of town:
Who are your possible scum teams today if not 72?

I'm currently thinking Mini+UNo

[72offsuit]

I'll eat my hat if both Uno and GL are town.

[ItalianoVD]

In the interest of ensuring this game isnt stalled by the eventuality of 72's lynch

Rest of town:
Who are your possible scum teams today if not 72?

I'm currently thinking Mini+UNo

Sounds like mine. UNOwen and Mini. I have another outlier, but it won’t be confirmed unless 72 flips town.

[ItalianoVD]

@GuiltyLion. Could you explain your transition from 718 to 744 to 757

I think I may have missed the reasons behind not scumreading Owen and Ydrasse.