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[Iconeum]

no i mean GB (george)

you townread him based on the last 6 pages as you wrote
is that because you agree with his posts? you know, the one including where he townreads me?

[Iconeum]

i wonder if

snowblaze

dkkoba and jankofan are scum together

i agree

[Iconeum]

I've read the whole game. Do you mean

do i agree with what vp

was saying re your push on npom? If so, yeah kinda. It feels like you might've sensed an opportunity to attract some attention in your push on npom. starting a fight there doesn't jive with someone who has no agenda in this game other than solving. contrast that to snow who's sort of feeling her way through, it feels like she's legit trying to make sense of whats happening. And then how you've progressed in the game, my impression is that you're sort of annoyed at being called out, are doubling down on tone/aggression and force yourself into a townread position.

ebwop

did you happen to read the post i made where it shows the faulty logic used by VP in his push on me?

VP used meta from a game where NPOW was mislynched by town, and scum just sat by. Then VP applied it to this game where NPOW is once again being pushed, so his logical conclusion should be that it's probably town again but instead ends up scumreading me.

[jankofan]

koba tr is a sharing reads and perspectives thing, snow i've said, vp is probably the weakest townread in that pool but yeah seems helpful to town and i think we share similar perspectives on things so far, gb just seems like a chill townie in tone.
billy i'll have to review actually, weakest scum pooler for sure, testa just seems to be focusing on the wrong things and their tones reading tryhardy. iconeum is explained above.

[Iconeum]

koba tr is a sharing reads and perspectives thing, snow i've said, vp is probably the weakest townread in that pool but yeah seems helpful to town and i think we share similar perspectives on things so far, gb just seems like a chill townie in tone.
billy i'll have to review actually, weakest scum pooler for sure, testa just seems to be focusing on the wrong things and their tones reading tryhardy. iconeum is explained above.

so you scumread me because you think the weakest of your townreads kinda made sense when pushing me?

[Iconeum]

koba tr is a sharing reads and perspectives thing

wait you are townreading Dkkoba?

based on shared reads? with whom exactly?

and could you point out exactly what *perspective* this is you are talking about?

[Iconeum]

testa just seems to be focusing on the wrong things and their tones reading tryhardy

how is any of this scum indicative? do you think town Always focuses on the 'right' things and scum don't? You think it's scum to be tryharding?

[Iconeum]

(sorry for the post overload, but i feel like we are actually getting somewhere with this)

[Datisi]

janko, do you think getting annoyed at people pushing you is scum!indicative?

[jankofan]

did you happen to read the post i made where it shows the faulty logic used by VP in his push on me?

VP used meta from a game where NPOW was mislynched by town, and scum just sat by. Then VP applied it to this game where NPOW is once again being pushed, so his logical conclusion should be that it's probably town again but instead ends up scumreading me.

I got the impression that in VP's game scum chose to leave them alone and eventually NPOM attracted enough attention to fuel an all town wagon on them. Whereas in this game scum (you) have chosen to jump on them early and use the concept that NPOM is safely pushable to attract neutral/positive attention

early in the game

. Pretty sure thats what vp's point was? Anyway my read on you extends past that concept and includes your progression from the early push even though it does circle back and tie in vp's initial argument.

[Iconeum]

Whereas in this game scum (you) have chosen to jump on them early and use the concept that NPOM is safely pushable to attract neutral/positive attention early in the game. Pretty sure thats what vp's point was? Anyway my read on you extends past that concept and includes your progression from the early push even though it does circle back and tie in vp's initial argument.

How could I have known that NPOW is or isn't a safe push? I've never played with the dude before.
What progression did I make according to you?

[jankofan]

[quote="In post 430

wait you are townreading Dkkoba?

based on shared reads? with whom exactly?

and could you point out exactly what *perspective* this is you are talking about?[/quote]
yeah, i'm townreading them. Based on having come to similar tentative conclusions, namely about you, snow, vp, testa, and even their tr on datisi, its like i'm getting there.
Had a brief list of notes as i was reading the game marking tentative conclusions and like all of them? even the original reads from koba were a match with my notes list.

[Iconeum]

oh i see, yeah shared reads make sense

but that's where it ends :p

[Iconeum]

how do you feel about dkkoba's complete unwillingness to provide any kind of backing for those reads?

[Iconeum]

3 out of your 4 townreads (datisi, snow, testa) are all (hard?) townreading me

how do you feel about that?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Iconeum bases her reads based almost entirely on how people react to her alone.

She doesn't seem to have the capability to step outside of her shoes and put herself into someone else's situation.

She tends to hyperfocus on someone when she thinks she is being wronged.

This is my psychoanalysis anyways. She has acted scummy, but the more I think about her interactions the more she seems town.

[jankofan]

Whereas in this game scum (you) have chosen to jump on them early and use the concept that NPOM is safely pushable to attract neutral/positive attention early in the game. Pretty sure thats what vp's point was? Anyway my read on you extends past that concept and includes your progression from the early push even though it does circle back and tie in vp's initial argument.

How could I have known that NPOW is or isn't a safe push? I've never played with the dude before.
What progression did I make according to you?

I mean, you could probably tell based on just their first few posts, i think. And i think i explained before its like there was an agenda to starting a fight with them then and there, it just didn't seem towny to me. And ever since then its like, you're sort of overeager to engage with people but only about the idea that they're SRing you because you think if you can draw enough attention to the topic of you being scum then people will be convinced you'd never be so brazen unless you were town. and thats unnatural to want to do as town imo because what would that even achieve?. and the bits where you're scumhunting don't seem sincere in comparison.

[jankofan]

Whereas in this game scum (you) have chosen to jump on them early and use the concept that NPOM is safely pushable to attract neutral/positive attention early in the game. Pretty sure thats what vp's point was? Anyway my read on you extends past that concept and includes your progression from the early push even though it does circle back and tie in vp's initial argument.

How could I have known that NPOW is or isn't a safe push? I've never played with the dude before.
What progression did I make according to you?

I mean, you could probably tell based on just their first few posts, i think. And i think i explained before its like there was an agenda to starting a fight with them then and there, it just didn't seem towny to me. And ever since then its like, you're sort of overeager to engage with people but only about the idea that they're SRing you because you think if you can draw enough attention to the topic of you being scum then people will be convinced you'd never be so brazen unless you were town. and thats unnatural to want to do as town imo because what would that even achieve?. and the bits where you're scumhunting don't seem sincere in comparison.

[jankofan]

Oops, double post sorry : /

[Iconeum]

Iconeum bases her reads based almost entirely on how people react to her alone.

She doesn't seem to have the capability to step outside of her shoes and put herself into someone else's situation.

She tends to hyperfocus on someone when she thinks she is being wronged.

This is my psychoanalysis anyways. She has acted scummy, but the more I think about her interactions the more she seems town.

i'm just gonna say it now before this gets out of control

i'm not a she

[Datisi]

janko, do you think getting annoyed at people pushing you is scum!indicative?

talk to me friend

[NoPowerOverMe]

It's okay I love you weather you're a girl or a guy as long as you're town.

[Iconeum]

Iconeum bases her reads based almost entirely on how people react to her alone.

She doesn't seem to have the capability to step outside of her shoes and put herself into someone else's situation.

She tends to hyperfocus on someone when she thinks she is being wronged.

This is my psychoanalysis anyways. She has acted scummy, but the more I think about her interactions the more she seems town.

most of my capacity to play this game properly goes out the window when i feel i'm being bullshitted
otherwise i dare to think i'm actually decent at this game, and i think i've already shown as much after the first *incident*?

also hot take:
town is a LOT more likely to act scummy, then scum

[Iconeum]

It's okay I love you weather you're a girl or a guy as long as you're town.

[jankofan]

how do you feel about dkkoba's complete unwillingness to provide any kind of backing for those reads?

Its like, idk kinda frustrating if you're the one being pushed by them i guess, but they have a right to play like that i guess? But i mean its early in the game so i think its worth just seeing how they progress.