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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm

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I guess my initial gameplan should make way more sense with this information out in the open now too.
I was fine being "universally" townread in the early game, and keeping up an environment where I might've been a low-information/townread kill for scum in the first 2 nights.
I was also doing my best not to draw in potential investigations after D2 - hence my comment towards Hoopla possibly using their action towards me.
(in the off-chance they were town, they'd waste their shot and no one - me included - would believe the "no result"-type of response)

One of the reasons why I thought notscience as doc would've made sense, was if the setup had a Vig/SK kind of a thing and/or the scumteam would have something like a strongman.

Obviously seeing all these investigative-flips and no extra-deaths per night made me realize that whenever I was gonna have to fully claim, I would produce some raised eyebrows. :igmeou:
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm

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it's a puppet show with the stipulation that the puppets will be made of paper
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm

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In post 2298, Not_Mafia wrote:This is the biggest load of shite I've ever read and I follow Trump on twitter
Well, didn't think you'd believe me anyway so.. :lol:
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm

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Una u didnt answer me
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm

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What part?
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:45 pm

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In post 2297, Isis wrote:are you guys ok if i claim
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:46 pm

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Yea, absolutely.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:46 pm

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Wtf sort of role is 2-shot Compulsive Commuter
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:48 pm

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N_M has paper theatre been explained to your satisfaction such that I can claim even though I should prolly slowplay
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:50 pm

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Well you tell me.
I was just in a game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm

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@Frederick A Campbell: Who designed the setup?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm

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I guess we didn't have a protective, so I was supposed to be drawing fire from scum?
I don't fking know.

Guess we'll be more informed once Isis claims. :]
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:51 pm

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In post 0, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Backup Moderator: Micc
Setup Designer: Fredrick A Campbell
Primary Setup Reviewer: mastina
Secondary Setup Reviewer: northsidegal
Not that hard Isis.. :roll:
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:52 pm

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In post 2308, Isis wrote:N_M has paper theatre been explained to your satisfaction such that I can claim even though I should prolly slowplay
I must have a masters thesis on the topic, fully sourced with written sources
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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what about a link to the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_theater

which includes 5 references
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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In post 2309, UnaBombaH wrote:Well you tell me.
I was just in a game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
Impotent PRs as named townies and double roles are a thing, "lol just commute N1 and N2" is not
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:54 pm

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In post 2312, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 0, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Backup Moderator: Micc
Setup Designer: Fredrick A Campbell
Primary Setup Reviewer: mastina
Secondary Setup Reviewer: northsidegal
Not that hard Isis.. :roll:
how much of a troll is FAC?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm

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In post 2314, Isis wrote:what about a link to the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_theater

which includes 5 references
I will accept it for now, but you will have to unclaim on day 8
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm

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Ok, that's fair
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:56 pm

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OK, I'm going back to bed then if it's just you two and this is the conversation we are having.. :lol:

I'll come back and catchup though. I want to learn more about paper-theatres since I was unable to build that Eeveelution one properly anyway.
Just not in the mood of watching this unfold live. :igmeou:
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:57 pm

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In post 2315, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2309, UnaBombaH wrote:Well you tell me.
I was just in a game with two town Millers and one town Ascetic Encryptor - with no PTs in the game.
Impotent PRs as named townies and double roles are a thing, "lol just commute N1 and N2" is not
Well, I'm not sure what is or isn't a thing around here anymore.
I feel like there many mods and setup-designers who absolutely just want to destroy any signs of "meta" within the Normal games. :lol:
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:00 pm

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+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Miltank Giga Impact vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Umbreon: 402-474 (121.4 - 143.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:01 pm

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In post 24, Isis wrote:
In post 18, Hoopla wrote:hello people of the town.

i am well rested; full of coffee, left-over dal, and wild ideas.

the scum don't stand a chance.

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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:03 pm

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In post 2315, Not_Mafia wrote:Impotent PRs as named townies and double roles are a thing
Also, you should realize that the example I gave you is so much more than just "what roles are a thing and what not".
My whole point there was to say that I've seen setups where weird, wonky, borderline unfun-to-play roles are used as a way to break expectations and balance the setups.
My role is the kind I'm not supposed to claim for it to have any function (ie. bait a kill from scum), but obv. as town I'd like to put information out there.
But it's also the kind of role where claiming it AFTER makes no difference!
Scum wouldn't still find a need to kill me, and I'd only give them ammo to use against me.
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:06 pm

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Like, go check my attitude once we had three investigatives flipped already.
I even made a post talking about roles that seem scummy. Roles that I would never want to claim.

And consider this - if you want to call me scum FOR claiming my role.
I could've planned something way different beforehand. Way in advance.
I was by no means forced to (very softly) crumb or claim this.
It is my truthful role, and I absolutely hated playing something like this.
That's all I have to say about my claim.
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