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[Raya36]

Official Vote Count 2.05

Greenovia dodrantalis (Rose Succulent)

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Elimination

With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate someone.

bob3141

(5): Andresvmb, VP Baltar, NoPowerOverMe, hellbooks, Iconeum

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Billy Pilgrim, Datisi, Alduskkel

Hellbooks

(1): DkKoba

Not Voting

(2): bob3141, Testarossa

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-20 07:15:00).

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[DkKoba]

ok no thread lock we good...

[Billy Pilgrim]

Look if bob gets flipped I think that helps given that it would show the two wagons on D1. That said, NPOM is my leading preference because i can't townread that slot.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Death tunneling is not getting you anywhere.

[DkKoba]

ok but are we gonna play the game or

[DkKoba]

Look if bob gets flipped I think that helps given that it would show the two wagons on D1. That said, NPOM is my leading preference because i can't townread that slot.

u have done so many scummy things idk what to make of u

[Andresvmb]

@DkKoba why are you so afraid to hammer Bob? You have been SR the slot for a while as far as I can tell, and nobody is going to convince me that Bob’s play today has been the paragon of Town. Let’s just do it and get on with it. I do feel like we’re just circling around it for no good reason. Ico has made the point already - we either do this now or just TR the slot the rest of the way. And you’ll have to execute me before I let this one go.

[Datisi]

i asked for a bit more time. why are you so impatient?

[Andresvmb]

We can wait for Bob to cloud the thread with nonsense if you want, that’s all fine. What I don’t want to see happen is the same thing that happened D1, where people began moving away from potentially useful executions and onto Town purely because the day kept dragging.

[Datisi]

bob is a great town player. if there's a chance for him to flip green here, i want to hear what he has to say.

[Billy Pilgrim]

i asked for a bit more time. why are you so impatient?

I want an answer to your question to Baltar.

[Andresvmb]

I was reading some of his games actually - I don’t disagree at all that he’s a good Town player. Which is exactly why my skepticism of the slot is so high. He misread the game to the point where his hard SR’s were a PR and me (and I obviously know my alignment but none of you can really know for certain), and helped flip the wagon onto a Town player D1. Not to say Bob is proficient to the point of never making any mistakes (the most recent game I was reading where he was on, he missed Scum multiple times). But still!

I will also point out that Bob is also decent Scum (based on a quick read of his most recent Scum game where he won and lived through the entire game). Giving a player like that the opportunity to skate away from an execution is a dangerous proposition.

[Datisi]

he's not skating away from an execution this time. the only thing resembling a counterwagon is npom, and shit i'm only voting him out of pure frustration, i think he's town.

also what billy said. if baltar got blocked i'd like to know about it.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: npom fk this

[DkKoba]

i dont want this dude in lylo

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm townreading you. Why wouldn't you want me in lylo? The only reason you'd have to be worried is if there was someone that was townier than you which isn't too likely.

[NoPowerOverMe]

And this isn't the time to policy lynch. We need a scum lynch today.

[Datisi]

> "we need a scum lynch"
> voting for bob who he townreads

why are you like this

[Andresvmb]

@Datisi, you see what is happening though right? Bob could easily tie it by voting his counterwagon, leaving the decision in the hands of Testarossa. If you think Bob is the better flip, I would consider Unvoting and waiting for Bob to answer whatever questions you posed.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm all for a Datisi or Baltar wagon. It's just not going to happen. Bob isn't a policy lynch, a lot of people think he's scum. I just don't happen to.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Call me erratic if you will, but by any logical analysis I'm one of the townier players in the game. Billy has pressured almost no one but me the who game and Datasi is clearly OMGUSing me after leading a town lynch yesterday. My wagon is scum driven.

[Datisi]

@Datisi, you see what is happening though right? Bob could easily tie it by voting his counterwagon, leaving the decision in the hands of Testarossa. If you think Bob is the better flip, I would consider Unvoting and waiting for Bob to answer whatever questions you posed.

sigh, i hate both of these wagons.

something in me is still saying bob is town. the only reason why i would consider voting him is "info" - either i'm wrong about it or to confirm that the town is probably going very wrong.

npom is like... probably town, but holy shit look at his posts. i think he either gets pushed later on or ends up being swayed into voting town.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Maybe Test is scum after all?

[Datisi]

both these wagons are town and i hate it.

UNVOTE:

part of me wants to try to save bob because i don't think it's scum. the other part understands enough of the town thinks he's scum that he's gonna be a distraction until he's dead. this is stupid.

of course i could also be wrong on bob. this game...

[NoPowerOverMe]

I am paranoid because in my last game there was a fake PR claim that won as scum. Which was Bob btw. It's possible both PR's could be the truth, I guess.