Micro 960: A Year of Miccros II - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my scumread of skitter was dependent on aldus flipping scum

[Raven Branwen]

@Pooky, could you please respond to 3365? Thanks.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't?? like both tw and skitter were going at each other while i was universally townread also scum roleblockers exist so lol??

dont understand this roleblocker comment - r u trying to say that scumdats would claim not to receive a visit in order to get skitter lynched and then claim theres a scum rb?

[Datisi]

not necessarily to get skitter lynched - to keep fuming the absolute shitfest that was skitter/tw. but yeah, i'd eventually start cring "scum rb!" or some or other shit. i'm not scum, i didn't think about it too much.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Pooky, could you please respond to 3365? Thanks.

my feeling on dsj is that hes a poe read for me at this point and could just be low hanging fruit here. I was already wrong once on a low hanging fruit and I dont want to be wrong again. I trust skitters skill and her role so I feel like unless I get a firm read on something my best odds r just to sheep her at this point. I've been rereading and playing around with some ideas in my head about whats actually going on here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not necessarily to get skitter lynched - to keep fuming the absolute shitfest that was skitter/tw. but yeah, i'd eventually start cring "scum rb!" or some or other shit. i'm not scum, i didn't think about it too much.

it seems very convolutes for scumdats to claim not to receive the msg and then blame it on scumRB. wouldnt it be much cleaner to just claim u received the msg?

[Datisi]

- scum!dats claims the message didn't go through
- tw and skitter keep ripping at each other's throats
- at some point it's show that skitter is a fn, at which point scumtisi cries about a rb, by which point it's already lylo

like this is not difficult

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would skitter rip at tw if dats says the msg didnt get thru. I think she would reroute to you at that point.

[Datisi]

...why does it feel to me like you're trying to just drag me into another pointless discussion... like if you're convinced i tell the truth about the friendly neighbor as either alignment... is this helping you sort me in any way...

...like maybe she would maybe she wouldn't have, i don't know... i'm saying i would've taken that risk as scum... but we don't live in the universe where i deny skitter being conftown to me so this whole discussion is moot...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i asked you to help me sort you by giving me a sample game to read in which you tunnel this hard as town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

...why does it feel to me like you're trying to just drag me into another pointless discussion... like if you're convinced i tell the truth about the friendly neighbor as either alignment... is this helping you sort me in any way...

...like maybe she would maybe she wouldn't have, i don't know... i'm saying i would've taken that risk as scum... but we don't live in the universe where i deny skitter being conftown to me so this whole discussion is moot...

you are the one who brought it up. I am just disagreeing that scumdats would risk the wrath of skitter to make some convoluted play.

[Datisi]

oh right, silly me, if you """prove""" scum!datisi also tells the truth about skitter, then you still have the option of pushing me later open. yeah ok.

pedit:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=82461 - newbie 1992, tunnelled poor generalwu on day 1 for "white knighting" or whatever it was, dude flipped town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=82764 - mini normal 2135 (note i'm playing under the name tanner), tunnelled popo on day 3 (despite him claiming a tracker with a guilty), turned the town around from almost lynching the townie he was claiming a guilty on to lynching him, dude flipped scum

ppedit: and i disagree wiuth that, but you're pretending to know how i'd play, and it's your word against mine, and it's annoying.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im just saying i think that line of play makes a lot more sense from scumdats imo than what you've proposed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pedit:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=82461 - newbie 1992, tunnelled poor generalwu on day 1 for "white knighting" or whatever it was, dude flipped town

you didnt vote wu until post #1000 and he was lynched by post 1233. I am specifically looking for a game where you tunnelled from the start for a long time. Also feel you are a lot more emotionally committed to this game, you read much differently.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

by this game i mean the one where u mislynched wu, specifically you had some very AI emotionally charged fights prior to your wu push.

[Datisi]

of course it's not gonna be the thing you need... i don't have a game where i tunnel from the start for a long time. (1) because i rarely tunnel, (2) when i do tunnel, those people either die or improve.

do i go "if i'm emotinally committed, that means i'm town" or do i go "i was committed to that game as well, at least on day one, before apparently everyone decided i was obvscum and i didn't have the strength to fight it", hmm...

pedit: how do i feel more emotionally committed to this game but i had very emotionally charged fights there?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are more emptionally charged/committed in the game you linked imo.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think its because you've become a more mature person or because you want to toe the line more carefully after the forcereplacements?

[Datisi]

that feels like an extremely loaded question and i can't even figure out in how many ways.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean reading this game you've linked, I feel you've either really matured as a person or you don't actually believe I'm scum here.

[Datisi]

i don't feel the need to do slurs or personal attacks so i don't give a damn about force replacements.

i can tell you the reasons why i felt more "emotionally charged" there than here, but that isn't even the main point of this discussion if i recall correctly? like this started as "have you ever hard tunnelled as town?" i gave you a link to a game. you said "no that's not the tunnelling i'm looking for". okay.

why are you now turning the conversation to whether i feel more or less emotionally charhed in this or that game?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well im specifically looking for a really long tunnel - I can understand going after someone for 15-30 pages or so, its less understandable to me how you can be so focussed on me over a 130 page game.

[skitter30]

If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.

can you explain why you want to be hammer today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why are you now turning the conversation to whether i feel more or less emotionally charhed in this or that game?

I am trying to sort your slot because I am wrong on at least one of my trs

[Datisi]

well im specifically looking for a really long tunnel - I can understand going after someone for 15-30 pages or so, its less understandable to me how you can be so focussed on me over a 130 page game.

because nothing has happened to change my mind and you refuse to die